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First of all:


Secondly, you have no idea what evolution actually is. If you think that a dolphin is the result of a fish growing legs, walking around and then deciding, "Nah, this isn't for me," then you have a very simplistic view of evolution. The changes happened literally over millions of years, over hundreds of thousands of generations, and across several classes.

You have no proof that tis happened. What you have is plaster of parish, speculation and wild assertions.
You can't even explain how mutations add up.
 
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You have no proof that tis happened. What you have is plaster of parish, speculation and wild assertions.
You can't even explain how mutations add up.
There's plenty of proof (evidence) and it's all been explained to you in detail repeatedly, you just don't want to understand it...
 
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What if a deformed leg was being prayed for...and the leg turned a little and straightened out? Would that be a miracle?
Not sure, but we'd certainly have something to investigate, no? We might have before & after X-Rays on hand to show the straightening, perhaps a video of it in action, etc... We could Praise Allah!
 
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Your site basically had this to say:
Iron is an element present in abundance in the body, particularly in the blood, where it is part of the protein that carries oxygen from the lungs to the tissues. Iron is also highly reactive with other molecules, so the body keeps it locked up tight, bound to molecules that prevent it from wreaking havoc on the tissues.

After death, though, iron is let free from its cage. It forms minuscule iron nanoparticles and also generates free radicals, which are highly reactive molecules thought to be involved in aging.

"The free radicals cause proteins and cell membranes to tie in knots," Schweitzer said. "They basically act like formaldehyde."


What scientist actually know is this:
Fourth, just because this iron increases the “resistance of these ‘fixed’ biomolecules to enzymatic or microbial digestion” does not necessarily mean that it increases resistance of these “fixed” biomolecules to degrading chemical reactions.1 In other words, these authors have again shown that iron inhibits microbes, but they did not show that it inhibits the oxidation and hydrolysis reactions known to relentlessly convert tissues into dust.

Plus, though they showed how iron ups resistance to microbes for two years, they did not show that it does so for millions of years. Getting these tissues to resist enzymes and microbes is the lowest hurdle. These results fail to demonstrate the next step—getting tissues to resist the laws of chemistry for unimaginable time spans.

While the study does show that iron helps preserve soft tissues, the results fall far short of the authors’ claim that this explains soft tissue persisting for millions of years. Concentrated blood and extra water may not approximate real conditions, iron is not always present with known original tissue fossils, and the scientists did not produce a useful time-to-dust estimate for their iron-encrusted tissues.

By showing that iron particles stuck to dinosaur blood vessels look similar to those attached to ostrich vessels, this research may explain how soft tissues have resisted disintegration for longer-than-expected intervals—for example, thousands of years. You can learn from the full article by clicking here.

Classic Creationist denial......

Schweitzer makes the extraordinary claim that she's found preserved soft tissue and you're all over it, imagining that it validates your ridiculous young Earth 'ideas'.

Schweitzer comes up with a scientifically sound idea about how they were preserved for millions of years and all of a sudden she doesn't know what she's talking about.

It would be quite sad if it wasn't so funny.

I wonder what experiments the authors of your ICR article have done to further their case and actually demonstrate their 'beliefs' about the age of Schweitzers samples? Anything?

The sum total of that ICR article is nitpicking Schweitzer and her teams' research (which passed peer review btw).

Why not read through these papers which outline the research in detail rather than swallowing that lazy propaganda?

http://www4.ncsu.edu/~mhschwei/Research_files/annurev-earth-final-published_1.pdf

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/281/1775/20132741
 
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Even without the fossil record; DNA alone confirms Evolution.
My DNA can be traced back to Sahelanthropus tchadensis, can it?

Also, without the fossil record, isn't that like saying, "I can tell what your dad looks like by reading your DNA"?
 
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My DNA can be traced back to Sahelanthropus tchadensis, can it?

Also, without the fossil record, isn't that like saying, "I can tell what your dad looks like by reading your DNA"?
Not yet but I certainly can tell you if he is your Dad ;)
 
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Not yet but I certainly can tell you if he is your Dad ;)
How?

You would need my dad's DNA.

And without his skeleton (fossil record), you're SOL (short on luck).
 
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How?

You would need my dad's DNA.

And without his skeleton (fossil record), you're SOL (short on luck).
No AV; in order to confirm TOE all we need is DNA from living species in order to see common ancestry.
An example being: If I take DNA from your third cousin and from you, I can confirm that both of you have a common ancestor.
 
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An example being: If I take DNA from your third cousin and from you, I can confirm that both of you have a common ancestor.
But you can't recognize my common ancestor, can you?

Without the fossil record, you would have to say that my oldest common ancestor was a human being just like me.

How would you know it was some hairy goon that swung down out of the trees and lived in caves for generations?
 
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You are missing the point AV. We dont need to know how the common ancestor looked like in order to confirm common ancestry. DNA can show when the split occured and how closely related species are. The science of genetics is the strongest tool we have confirming TOE.
You could google it. That is if you really want to know what I am talking about.
 
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We dont need to know how the common ancestor looked like in order to confirm common ancestry.
I think you do.

Else pictures like this:

Copy%20of%20Harrison-WalkingMen.jpg


... wouldn't make any sense.
 
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My DNA can be traced back to Sahelanthropus tchadensis, can it?

Also, without the fossil record, isn't that like saying, "I can tell what your dad looks like by reading your DNA"?

We'll add DNA evidence for evolution to the ever-growing list of things you don't understand, shall we?
 
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From your link:Only on paper.

That's a lie, straight from Satan's mouth.

We don't have a common ancestor, we have a common designer.

And if you want to trace our DNA back properly, trace it back to Adam, who lived in 4004 BC.

You're going to have to do more than make a claim before I believe you.
 
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You're going to have to do more than make a claim before I believe you.
Luke 16:31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.
 
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