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They disregarded a LOT of peoples' input.

They made sure of that; even breaking the rules to do it.
Ah, yes the "rules". Reproducibility? How about peer review? Or perhaps detailing one's methods? Using a control? Changing one variable at a time?

Those are the scientific "rules", silly.
 
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that's not a citation, that's a self-quote

you creationists like to do that
You want a citation that the IAU broke its own bylaws to rig a vote?

Isn't that like asking Ted Bundy to prove he committed a crime?
 
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Now you're comparing scientists to criminals. I'm not sure where you're going with this one.

Same place he usually goes... nowhere.
 
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You want a citation that the IAU broke its own bylaws to rig a vote?

Isn't that like asking Ted Bundy to prove he committed a crime?
I don't know why you are so preoccupied with Pluto. Changing one arbitrary classification of Pluto for another does absolutely nothing to change our scientific understanding of the nature of Pluto.
 
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I don't know why you are so preoccupied with Pluto. Changing one arbitrary classification of Pluto for another does absolutely nothing to change our scientific understanding of the nature of Pluto.
It's HOW it was done.

If scientists can rig votes behind closed doors, who knows what else they've rigged in the past.
 
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It's HOW it was done.

If scientists can rig votes behind closed doors, who knows what else they've rigged in the past.
If it was a secret conspiracy, how did you find out about it?
 
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If it was a secret conspiracy, how did you find out about it?
I didn't say it was a secret conspiracy, I said it was a rigged vote.

Did you read laurele's posts?
 
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I don't know why you are so preoccupied with Pluto. Changing one arbitrary classification of Pluto for another does absolutely nothing to change our scientific understanding of the nature of Pluto.
Ever since Pluto was reclassified, society has become more wretched, Christianity is on the decline, and my life has become miserable.
 
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Sigh.

Are you going on with that old nonsense of yours, AV, that changing the category that pluto was in somehow changed some aspect of pluto itself?

I suspect a challenge in there... I think I'll go and start one.

(Oh, BTW, AV, I'll be going to bed after that, so if I don't reply, it's not because I've given up, okay? It's just late here.)
 
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It's HOW it was done.

If scientists can rig votes behind closed doors, who knows what else they've rigged in the past.

Let's hope when they rig other things, they've convinced reality to go along with it. Otherwise they might be found out!
 
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AV1611VET: God is self existent.

Scientific Methodists: No He isn't, the universe is.

Which one belongs at the top of the mountain?

God or the universe?
By that logic, Zeus, or chronos I suppose. They gave birth to gods.
 
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By that logic, Zeus, or chronos I suppose. They gave birth to gods.
Those gods fought, argued, and interbred constantly.

They exerted authority over one another, committed fornication, adultery, raped, robbed, and pillaged each other, lied, stole, cheated, drank, smoked (skip that one), demanded child sacrifices, trespassed and other crimes.

And what do we do?

We go and name our days of the week after some of them. :doh:
 
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Why is there such a cognitive gap between humans and other species? Yes, I know they can use sticks to fish out bugs, but we are exploring the outer reaches of the universe and communicating instantaneously around the globe.
Why did it take us so long? We've only been doing that in the last 50-100 or so years - what about the 4.5 billion years before that?
 
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