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My flood water challenge

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Yes, and Bull Sharks can survive in both. And adaptation would of been already programmed by God. It is the Macro that is bunk.

yes ... there are several species that can survive in both.
 
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Most likely the really tall mountains were brought up during the flood and what was land went down-the deep ocean trenches. It would not have to be a total reshaping, but that is what this verse seems to talk about. This is about the creation event, but the last verses seem to be during the flood, because the boundary has now been set by God, "so that they will not return to cover the earth".

3He lays the beams of His upper chambers in the waters;
He makes the clouds His chariot;
He walks upon the wings of the wind;

4He makes the winds His messengers,
Flaming fire His ministers.

5He established the earth upon its foundations,
So that it will not totter forever and ever.

6You covered it with the deep as with a garment;
The waters were standing above the mountains.

7At Your rebuke they fled,
At the sound of Your thunder they hurried away.

8The mountains rose; the valleys sank down
To the place which You established for them.

9You set a boundary that they may not pass over,
So that they will not return to cover the earth.
 
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I haven't read this thread, but you missed a very important part of the global flood, and that is those mountains didn't exist as they are now, the flood created them. They were mountains but the flood itself raised them much higher. This is why ocean-bottom sediments, full of marine fossils can be found on the highest mountains. Mt. Everest itself has clam fossils at its summit.

Psalm 104:8
The mountains rose, the valleys sank down to the place that you appointed for them.
While the mountains rose higher the oceans got much deeper. The world was much more even pre flood.


We also know that part of the flood water was water from under the earth, it came up as 'fountains of the deep.' That water or some of it went back again, its under the surface.

Genesis 7:11
In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, on the seventeenth day of the second month—on that day all the springs of the great deep burst forth, and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.

Then as for the water on the earth, some is frozen. Antarctica is covered with ice on average 2,133 meters thick. If all of the Antarctic ice melted, sea levels around the world would rise about 61 meters. The rest is in the oceans and below the surface of the earth.
 
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so you take the flood for granted and attribute magical powers to this flood of raising mountains out of nothing. Silly me, I forgot that floodists play science with different rules, they change the laws of natures as seems fit or wipe moutains away with a handwave.
Mount Everest: 8848 meters -61 meters: that's still 8787 meters and 15 cubits to go.
 
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Whatever has to have happened to make the Genesis stories literally true, that's what happened.
 
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You are the one wanting to argue over scripture. The part that says the mountains rose and the valleys sank is a key part in how high the water rose. The mountains rose because of volcanic eruptions. Mt Everest was not 8848 at the time of the flood.
The global flood was a supernatural event caused by God not just a random act of nature.
 
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High mountains and high hills are the same Hebrew word. The translators chose to make the flood higher (deeper) than was necessary. Unless people were living on the mountaintops there was no need for the flood to reach that high.
 
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Science (hydrologists) have never examined the flood story. Perhaps they should.
 
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Science (hydrologists) have never examined the flood story. Perhaps they should.
Actually they have. Modern Earth science began in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, created by scientists (most of them clergymen) looking for evidence of the flood--which they couldn't find, much to their disappointment.
 
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Actually they have. Modern Earth science began in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, created by scientists (most of them clergymen) looking for evidence of the flood--which they couldn't find, much to their disappointment.

They were likely looking for the 'traditional' flood; the one pictured by various artists over time. The flood story reveals the real flood. One can get a pretty good picture by observing large flood events today. Observing the daily tides is also helpful.
 
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Help us to conclude that all or most of the Earth was covered by water in 2600 BC? How?
 
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the mixing of fresh and slat water is dependent on the turbulence in a given area, the shape of the estuary and the strength of the current and/or tides. A collection of fresh water my remain marginal fresh for a brief time but that time would be measured in hours at best.
 
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it rained (was refreshed) for 40 days and nights ... the entire globe was engulfed ... biblical account talks of winds as well.
 
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i wasn't around during WWII but it still happened
 
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I would believe the God of the Bible, but not necessarily what you tell me the God of the Bible meant to say.
 
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to bad Everest is a product of plat tectonics
 
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You are the one wanting to argue over scripture. The part that says the mountains rose and the valleys sank is a key part in how high the water rose. The mountains rose because of volcanic eruptions. Mt Everest was not 8848 at the time of the flood.
Any evidence of this or are you just making it up?
 
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it rained (was refreshed) for 40 days and nights ... the entire globe was engulfed ... biblical account talks of winds as well.
which woudl have caused turbulence making the dispersion of fresh water go even faster
 
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