My Change Challenge

[Kylie]

One.

And what is that change?

 

[Kylie]

11 changes.

And what are they?

 

[Kylie]

Really? You think his mother is going to be happy that instead of making his bed, he chooses to assemble his model railway set? We've moved from a well behaved, tidy self-disciplined boy and proud, happy mother, to a disobedient, selfish, thoughtless boy and a frustrated, angry mother. That is one heck of a macro-change.

You seem unaware that small changes in genotype can produce large changes in phenotype.

You get it.

 

[Everybodyknows]

Something is changed if it is different to the original.

So are you going to tell us the point you are trying to illustrate before we degenerate into greater realms of stupidity?

 

[Ophiolite]

You get it.

I'm not just a pretty face! Ask anyone who knows me. (Although their perception seems to have mutated to "He's not even a pretty face!")

 

[AV1611VET]

And what is that change?

You made it ... and you're asking me?

"Bed" was changed to "set".

 

[AV1611VET]

So are you going to tell us the point you are trying to illustrate before we degenerate into greater realms of stupidity?

Methinks it's an exercise in macro vs micro.

Bed-to-set is a macro change that resulted in a series of micro changes: b-to-s and d-to-t.

 

[Everybodyknows]

Methinks it's an exercise in macro vs micro.

Bed-to-set is a macro change that resulted in a series of micro changes: b-to-s and d-to-t.

Ok well I've already solved it then.

 

[Radagast]

Something is changed if it is different to the original.

You obviously don't get my point. See my more detailed post.

 

[Radagast]

So are you going to tell us the point you are trying to illustrate before we degenerate into greater realms of stupidity?

I don't think there was a point. Just a general ignorance of how DNA analysis works.

 

[Kylie]

So are you going to tell us the point you are trying to illustrate before we degenerate into greater realms of stupidity?

The point is that creationists love to criticize science when they say that one species differs genetically from another species by a certain amount, but different sources give different amounts that they differ by. The reason for this is that some sources says what percentage of base pairs are different, some sources say what percentage of amino acids coded for a different, and some sources use what percentage of genes are different. All are different ways of looking at the genetic code, just like letters, words and sentences are different ways of looking at text.

Yet creationists are so often don't even bother understanding what they are denouncing as false, they just latch onto anything that supports their viewpoint, and people accept what they say as true, because they present themselves as knowledgeable when they are peddling falsehoods.

 

[Kylie]

You made it ... and you're asking me?

"Bed" was changed to "set".

But I can also say that the B was changed to an S, and the D was changed to a T, so that's two changes, isn't it?

Which claim is more valid, that there is 1 change or 2 changes?

 

[Everybodyknows]

The point is that creationists love to criticize science when they say that one species differs genetically from another species by a certain amount, but different sources give different amounts that they differ by. The reason for this is that some sources says what percentage of base pairs are different, some sources say what percentage of amino acids coded for a different, and some sources use what percentage of genes are different. All are different ways of looking at the genetic code, just like letters, words and sentences are different ways of looking at text.

Yet creationists are so often don't even bother understanding what they are denouncing as false, they just latch onto anything that supports their viewpoint, and people accept what they say as true, because they present themselves as knowledgeable when they are peddling falsehoods.

Something something within their kinds!

 

[AV1611VET]

But I can also say that the B was changed to an S, and the D was changed to a T, so that's two changes, isn't it?

Which claim is more valid, that there is 1 change or 2 changes?

But it's still a bed set.

 

[Chriliman]

Something to illustrate a point...

Suppose I have this text:

Toby made his bed. Then he went outside.​

I change that to:

Toby made his set. Then he went outside.​

How many changes have I made?

3. You've changed 2 letters as well as the meaning.

 

[AV1611VET]

3. You've changed 2 letters as well as the meaning.

It's still a bed set though.

 

[Chriliman]

It's still a bed set though.

Oh, I'm not familiar with calling a bed a set. :/

 

[Ophiolite]

Oh, I'm not familiar with calling a bed a set. :/

Typical responses to ignorance include:

• Seeking to remove the ignorance
• Declaring the ignorance is unimportant
• Denying the ignorance exists

What is your usual response? What is your response in this instance?

 

[Chriliman]

Typical responses to ignorance include:

• Seeking to remove the ignorance
• Declaring the ignorance is unimportant
• Denying the ignorance exists

What is your usual response? What is your response in this instance?

Seeking to remove ignorance in a loving way is always best

 

[Ophiolite]

Seeking to remove ignorance in a loving way is always best

Good. Because I'm ignorant of what you meant by your post #37. The text is clear. The sub-text is deeply obscure.

Looking forward to the removal of ignorance.