My Big Bang Challenge

[AV1611VET]

You think this world is a disaster or you do not.

And I'll say it again.

I'm posting as if this world is a PRODUCT of a disaster.

One that occurred in 13,800,000,000 BC when, for some inexplicable reason, the status quo of a tiny atom got upset by a natural disaster.

 

[Bradskii]

I would just like to take a moment to thank the designers of this forum for including the option to unwatch specific threads.

 

[Shemjaza]

Once upon a time the only thing in the universe was a Primordial Atom.

In fact, the Primordial Atom was the universe.

Then a universal natural disaster occurred.

The Primordial Atom expanded.

To its horror, its diameter increased and increased and increased, as it spilled its guts out.

Growing fatter and fatter and fatter with each passing day.

Then, billions of years later, life appeared in one of its tiny quadrants.

Stop this! said the Atom! What's happening to me!?

He kept getting bigger and bigger and bigger, as the life that was now on him began to die and decay, along with the rest of the Atom.

Eventually, the Atom itself died.

Frozen to death by thermal equilibrium.

The End

So you are making up a bizarre mythology that no one believes as a justification for applying a negative label to a version of history that you disagree with.

That's incredibly silly.

 

[AV1611VET]

So you are making up a bizarre mythology that no one believes as a justification for applying a negative label to a version of history that you disagree with.

That's incredibly silly.

How much of that story DO you believe though, Shemjaza?

Do you believe that, at one time, the universe existed as a Primordial Atom (for lack of a better term)?

If you don't, do you believe that that is what was taught at one time?

 

[AV1611VET]

I would just like to take a moment to thank the designers of this forum for including the option to unwatch specific threads.

That's why it's a challenge thread, Brad.

It is a thought-provoking mental exercise that makes you see science from a perspective that you probably have never considered before.

 

[sjastro]

That's why it's a challenge thread, Brad.

It is a thought-provoking mental exercise that makes you see science from a perspective that you probably have never considered before.

From the perspective of ignorance you are spot on.

 

[Shemjaza]

How much of that story DO you believe though, Shemjaza?

Do you believe that, at one time, the universe existed as a Primordial Atom (for lack of a better term)?

If you don't, do you believe that that is what was taught at one time?

I believe the universe was vastly denser than it became during the Big Bang, but applying personality, life and priority to something that is unknown and possibly unknowable is ridiculous.

If you want to describe the universe itself as a disaster because it and everything in it will eventually "die", then I guess I can see the justification, but describing the beginning changes as a disaster because some hypothetical something from before could be interpreted as being destroyed by the process is unjustified.

 

[AV1611VET]

If you want to describe the universe itself as a disaster because it and everything in it will eventually "die", then I guess I can see the justification, but describing the beginning changes as a disaster because some hypothetical something from before could be interpreted as being destroyed by the process is unjustified.

You're certainly welcome to your opinion.

Some see the Grand Canyon as a beautiful geological phenomenon; others see it as a terrible crack in the earth, caused by sin.

 

[Shemjaza]

You're certainly welcome to your opinion.

Some see the Grand Canyon as a beautiful geological phenomenon; others see it as a terrible crack in the earth, caused by sin.

Do you hate the whole physical world?

 

[AV1611VET]

Do you hate the whole physical world?

Of course not.

I hate what God's pristine creation has become though.

 

[HARK!]

MOD HAT ON

MOD HAT OFF​

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

That's why it's a challenge thread, Brad.

It is a thought-provoking mental exercise that makes you see science from a perspective that you probably have never considered before.

It's not really a challenge though. It is thought provoking, I will say that, but in the way of "Why does AV give such a care about something only he thinks about?"

 

[AV1611VET]

It's not really a challenge though. It is thought provoking, I will say that, but in the way of "Why does AV give such a care about something only he thinks about?"

The amount of thought, and how seriously you want to take it, is totally up to you.

You'll get out of it what you put into it.

 

[inquiring mind]

It's not really a challenge though. It is thought provoking, I will say that, but in the way of "Why does AV give such a care about something only he thinks about?"

And, anytime someone stays interactive for 152 posts, I'd argue they're challenged in some way.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

And, anytime someone stays interactive for 152 posts, I'd argue they're challenged in some way.

I think I dipped out on page 5 and went back in on page 8.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

It doesn't answer the problem. It simply confirms that it exists.

Yup, there's something seriously askew when it's a sin simply to exist...

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

Some see the Grand Canyon as a beautiful geological phenomenon; others see it as a terrible crack in the earth, caused by sin.

Geological activity is a product of sin? Cool! both bad things and good things can come out of sin.

 

[AV1611VET]

Geological activity is a product of sin?

The Grand Canyon is not a product of "geological activity over time."

It occurred in a [pun intended] split second.

 

[VirOptimus]

The Grand Canyon is not a product of "geological activity over time."

It occurred in a [pun intended] split second.

No.

 

[HARK!]

Can the Big Bang Theory be considered a natural disaster on a universal scale?

Not if we consider Cole's Law.