My Apple Challenge

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

I don't think so -- it's a hypothetical.

Feel free to participate.



I will when I'm satisfied with an answer; which, by the way, I am.

Corvus Corax, in my opinion, gave a good, honest answer.



It shouldn't matter if I can do it in real life or in a hypothetical -- is that going to change your answer?



That "dead horse" is your opinion -- an opinion I don't share.

I would guess that you are in very tiny minority here. Haven't we had polls on your bogus apple challenge in the past? You are free to believe in a deceptive God who created a world with "embedded age" and hid all evidence of the great flood he used to wipe out his botched up creation but don't expect to convince anyone else of the rationality of your irrational beliefs based on your absurd apple challenge.

 

[Split Rock]

I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.

What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?

Have you taken a vow not to resurrect dead threads? Now you just replicate them?

Here is my challenge.

1. I do something impossible.
2. How would you convince your friend I did something impossible?
3. He won't believe you if you just tell him, will he?
4. But he would be Wrong, Wouldn't he... wouldn't he????????????????????????????????
5. Repeat every 2-3 weeks.

 

[MoonLancer]

I'm looking for scientific answers -- not Biblical ones.

scientific? in your question there is no way for the person i would tell about this event to falsify my claim. It really doesn't matter if you did or did not create an apple. If your did or did not, the claim would seem identical to whoever i tell.

I cannot show evidence for my claim that i saw you create an apple. I am smart enough to know that i would need evidence for such a claim.

Thus it is unreachable to expect people to believe things like this simply at there word. The only way to convince him would be to bring you along as well. If you could not create the apple again i would be very suspicious that it was a trick.

 

[MoonLancer]

What does this thread have to do with God?

What does this thread have to do with the Bible?

I know very well where your going with this thread. dont insult me. dont play dumb.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

scientific? in your question there is no way for the person i would tell about this event to falsify my claim. It really doesn't matter if you did or did not create an apple. If your did or did not, the claim would seem identical to whoever i tell.

I cannot show evidence for my claim that i saw you create an apple. I am smart enough to know that i would need evidence for such a claim.

Thus it is unreachable to expect people to believe things like this simply at there word. The only way to convince him would be to bring you along as well. If you could create the apple again i would be very suspicious that it was a trick.

His argument/challenge comes down to this: I make a claim that can't be falsified, therefore I'm right.

 

[VirOptimus]

As I have stated in the past, these kinds of Word play/semantics is both bad philosophy(science) and bad theology. I wish avet would realise this.

 

[MoonLancer]

pretty much. I ramble sometimes.

God came to me and told me the bible was actually created by the devil. How would i convince you that this is actually happened AV?

 

[pgp_protector]

I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.

What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?

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[AV1611VET]

As I have stated in the past, these kinds of Word play/semantics is both bad philosophy(science) and bad theology. I wish avet would realise this.

So is arguing for evidence for something that came into existence ex nihilo.

 

[SkyWriting]

I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.

What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?

Judging by your avatar, you're a cartoon character.
Pretty much anything goes.

 

[AV1611VET]

Judging by your avatar, you're a cartoon character.
Pretty much anything goes.

Your answer doesn't fit the question.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

Your answer doesn't fit the question.

Nor does your theology fit reality.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nor does your theology fit reality.

You see theology in my OP?

Let me repeat: I'd like this thread to be science-only.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

You see theology in my OP?

Let me repeat: I'd like this thread to be science-only.

That's my point. You don't understand science. It's a nonsense question. As already pointed out, it can't be falsified. Therefore you are free to make any and all claims you'd like. Prove Poseidon didn't do it.

 

[Saving Hawaii]

Let me repeat: I'd like this thread to be science-only.

But it already took a hike, per your slogan.

 

[LifeToTheFullest!]

But it already took a hike, per your slogan.

"SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE" -AV1611VET

 

[SkyWriting]

Judging by your avatar, you're a cartoon character. Pretty much anything goes.

Sorry. I know you didn't do it. So I'm going to hit myself on the head with a big cartoon hammer because I'm in toon-town being asked alice in wonderland questions.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry. I know you didn't do it. So I'm going to hit myself on the head with a big cartoon hammer because I'm in toon-town being asked alice in wonderland questions.

Fix your profile first.

It says: 'Church Of he Brethren'.

 

[Skavau]

There is no way I could convince anyone that you created an apple ex nihilo without you replicating it in front of them. Since apparently, you've lost interest I cannot do that.

Sounds like you're giving up before you even try.

Do you imagine it is generally easy to just prove that someone created something out of nothing?

His perspective would be wrong, wouldn't it?

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Yes, in this instance he would be wrong. However he would have no reason to believe that you are right. You have to see it from his perspective to understand his disagreement.

Once I create the apple, my part is finished.

Then you withdraw the right to ask stupid questions as to how the original witness to your 'miracle' managed to convince his buddy that you did it.

Besides, if I created an apple a million times after that in front of a million people, would it be evidence that I created your apple ex nihilo?

No, technically it would not. However perhaps the more important point in this is that you are capable of creating an apple ex nihilo and people would be more likely and willing to believe the testimony of the person who witnessed the original apple being created.

Nope -- wrong perspective of my challenge.

You cannot just decree that certain evaluations of your pathetic challenge are inherently the "wrong perspective". If you are unable to take criticism for your rubbish then you should not put it up in the public domain.

 

[Belk]

I create an apple ex nihilo into the palm of your hand.

What evidence would you use to convince your friend I did this?

I would show him the lepticon readings. Since he knows that lepticons are only present when something is created ex nihilo he would be convinced.