Muslims in a public forum

[urnotme]

Do you criticise any Islamic practice, anywhere?

They do the bombers sometimes, but those aren't real muslims.

 

[Kris_J]

"Is Islam a religion that gags its Muslims from being critical ofthe Muslim community?"

It seems a very simple "yes" or "no" answer. Don't Muslims know what the answer it is?

Perhaps Muslims like Bookofknowledge doesn't even know that the unwritten rule is that only Imams & Sheiks are "allowed" to publicly critique Muslims.

Or even more interesting is that perhaps according to Islam, Muslims without status of an Imam/Sheik (eg. Bookofknowledge) are not allowed to critique non-Muslims too.

 

[Kris_J]

They do the bombers sometimes, but those aren't real muslims.

Umm yeah like the Ku Klux Klan are not Christians despite them believing in the Nicene Creed.

 

[Montalban]

They do the bombers sometimes, but those aren't real muslims.

I mentioned earlier that here in Oz the various Moslem groups are supposed to have a conference on terrorism (a bit slow to respond).

It will be interesting if they condemn terrorism, and more interesting if they can use Islamic argument to condemn it.

 

[urnotme]

Let him speak of his heart there is no need of yours and you are not a moderator, the post has already been deleted so move on.

Rahul sharmins wasn't, that was about india or south india though but if it was a violation it was against the rules. It doesn't make much difference except it was a rule violation. You said you don't live in india you live in south india. I thought they were the same country.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Rahul sharmins wasn't, that was about india or south india though but if it was a violation it was against the rules. It doesn't make much difference except it was a rule violation. You said you don't live in india you live in south india. I thought they were the same country.

What in the world you are talking about... I think you're mixing two different debates...

 

[urnotme]

Yes every human is a cop without uniform... become a moderator before you police on this forum. I told you let him speak of his mind beside that the thread has been deleted so now move on...

You are spreading hatred among those who read your posts and develop opinions with regards to me - this is something which was not said and done by Jesus... If Jesus did this type of things then share it with us.

I don't think the pharisees liked it when Jesus said John 8:44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
NIV.

 

[urnotme]

Umm yeah like the Ku Klux Klan are not Christians despite them believing in the Nicene Creed.

That's just what they say because they don't want to admit it.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

I don't think the pharisees liked it when Jesus said John

8:44You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desire. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
NIV.

Jesus said to who? John as John the baptist?

 

[urnotme]

What in the world you are talking about... I think you're mixing two different debates...

I was talking about on another thrad in the ncr forum. It seems like the same rules would apply.

 

[urnotme]

Jesus said to who? John as John the baptist?

The pharasees, and he called the people hipocrits.Jesus spoke the truth.

 

[Kris_J]

None of your business so please move on, there is no need for you to ask me do I want to stay or go...

Perhaps that is why Muslims do not respond to threads like execution of gay teens - because they are afraid to share their personal view, & they do not know the official view to parrot. Now is that how people ought to conduct themselves in a public forum?

I believe that fearing to share your personal view defeats the purpose of a public forum.

 

[Montalban]

I believe that fearing to share your personal view defeats the purpose of a public forum.[/font]

Even though you and I often disagree, at least you respond to questions.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Yes every human is a cop without uniform... become a moderator before you police on this forum. I told you let him speak of his mind beside that the thread has been deleted so now move on...

Sheesh grow up and learn what responsibility for one's own actions means, thread is not deleted it is still here, just one post deleted. push me enough, I can become a moderator as I have the credentials to do so. Islam never teaches humbleness but bragging and never acceptng fault and not apologizing. You messed up, at least suck it up and apologize.

You are spreading hatred among those who read your posts and develop opinions with regards to me

No I am trying to get you bow your head down and learn how to be humble and learn to apologize. You were wrong and lost it. But no you don't accept responsibility and whine more and more, try to justify your actions with beating around the bush this nonsense.

this is something which was not said and done by Jesus... If Jesus did this type of things then share it with us.

Jesus taught us how to be humble, which you are not. And how would you know what Jesus said and done? What is your reference document?

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

None of your business so please move on, there is no need for you to ask me do I want to stay or go...

You have said that this was the only forum you hung around, well why don't read its rules and abide by them? You can not have it your own way, sorry, apparently if you get kicked out of here, it is going to matter to you at a great rate.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

Book,

I nominate you for "THE BEST DODGER OF QUESTIONS" award ever given on CF NCR!

What in the world you are talking about... I think you're mixing two different debates...

Jesus said to who? John as John the baptist?

 

[Montalban]

You have said that this was the only forum you hung around, well why don't read its rules and abide by them? You can not have it your own way, sorry, apparently if you get kicked out of here, it is going to matter to you at a great rate.

Not only that, but he says we shouldn't comment on what goes on in other countries; he's broken that rule too!

He's unapologetic about public revelations of PMs, and he's personally insulted me but thinks it's funny.

 

[HumbleSiPilot77]

If I knew how old he was I would be more understanding. This doesn't mean I am belittling him because of his age.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Book,

I nominate you for "THE BEST DODGER OF QUESTIONS" award ever given on CF NCR!

I am humbled by your believe in me and I admire your devotion by listening (reading) of my posts.

I personally don't think I qualify for this award however with my deepest gratitude, I personally would like to say that there are more deserving candidates on this forum then me.


I ased a question which was related directly or indirectly to topic inorder to fecilitate my own understanding hence I don't think I am a dodger of questions.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Sheesh grow up and learn what responsibility for one's own actions means, thread is not deleted it is still here, just one post deleted. push me enough, I can become a moderator as I have the credentials to do so. Islam never teaches humbleness but bragging and never acceptng fault and not apologizing. You messed up, at least suck it up and apologize.

None of your business until you become moderator and when you become moderator you will asked to sit back and watch for a limited time because people make countries and law not their leaders or moderators meaing laws and forums change...

No I am trying to get you bow your head down and learn how to be humble and learn to apologize. You were wrong and lost it. But no you don't accept responsibility and whine more and more, try to justify your actions with beating around the bush this nonsense.

There is nothing wrong with speaking in public what one believes. Let him speak of his heart and with reagrds to the dispute in Jesus let every christian know that Allah has made it easy for muslims.

If you believe Allah is not the real God and your God is the real then be sure your God will not allow a curse because God is all powerful hence you shouldn't have any problem accepting the challenge.

Jesus taught us how to be humble, which you are not. And how would you know what Jesus said and done? What is your reference document?

You are trying to make me bow without my will and you say Jesus taught you how to be humble?

How do I know what Jesus said and done am I not on a christian forum? and open Qur'aan and Hadith... My biggest reference is you and your words and your acts.