Muslims in a public forum

[Kris_J]

Why should I say so on that thread - when Jews and Christians know for a fact what sin people of Prophet Lut (AS) were punished.

With regards to the girl - I do not want to comment on something which is hidden from me. I do not know the status of that girl in the sight of God and I do not know the status of that religious judge in the sight of God.

If the girl is innocent in the sight of God then the religious judge will be questioned on Day of Judgement for what sin she was killed; and will not be spared.

If you had an unmarried Muslim sister that had an affair with an unmarried man, should she be executed under Islamic law?

Have you no sense of justice?

BTW do you know if it is just for the British to kill suspected Muslim terrorists first & ask later?

 

[Bookofknowledge]

If you had an unmarried Muslim sister that had an affair with an unmarried man, should she be executed under Islamic law?

Have you no sense of justice?

You are getting personal and It is not good for one who believe in justice according to the law of religion and law of land.

 

[Kris_J]

You are getting personal and It is not good for one who believe in justice according to the law of religion and law of land.

Its not personal - its called an analogy.

Now if you want to argue whether analogies are a valid tool in a debate that is another thread.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Its not personal - its called an analogy.

Now if you want to argue whether analogies are a valid tool in a debate....

I am not in authority to make that decision even it is my sister or daughter. The laws are very clear for those who understand and I don't expect my sisters and daughters to be unchaste.

May Allah forgive us and make us follow the right way.

 

[Kris_J]

I am not in authority to make that decision even it is my sister or daughter. The laws are very clear for those who understand and I don't expect my sisters and daughters to be unchaste.

May Allah forgive us and make us follow the right way.

ok...So do you know if it is just for the British to kill racially profiled suspected Muslim terrorists first & ask later?

 

[Bookofknowledge]

ok...So do you know if it is just for the British to kill racially profiled suspected Muslim terrorists first & ask later?

Killing of an innocent should be unacceptable for those who believe in Justice. Islam gives the rights of retribution against those who kill unjustly.


17:33
You shall not kill anyone whom Allah has forbidden, except for just cause under the law. If anyone is killed unjustly, We have granted the right of retribution to his heir, but let him not carry his vengeance too far in killing the culprit through taking the law in his own hands, as he is supported by the law.

 

[Kris_J]

Killing of an innocent should be unacceptable for those who believe in Justice. Islam gives the rights of retribution against those who kill unjustly.

17:33
You shall not kill anyone whom Allah has forbidden, except for just cause under the law. If anyone is killed unjustly, We have granted the right of retribution to his heir, but let him not carry his vengeance too far in killing the culprit through taking the law in his own hands, as he is supported by the law.

But who are you to say that those Muslim suspect are innocent right? Do you agree to let the British police shoot first after all they are the extension of the authority of the law.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

But who are you to say that those Muslim suspect are innocent right? Do you agree to let the British police shoot first after all they are the extension of the authority of the law.

who are you to say the young teen standing next to any women is her bf simply based of your suspicious opinion with regards to that teen?

They are in authority but they do not have the authority to kill innocents citizens simply because of suspicious behaviour and later say we are sorry and we are dum people to be in authority.

 

[Kris_J]

who are you to say the young teen standing next to any women is her bf simply based of your suspicious opinion with regards to that teen?

They are in authority but they do not have the authority to kill innocents citizens simply because of suspicious behaviour and later say we are sorry and we are dum people to be in authority.

You are neither an expert on Iranian law or British law.

You deny yourself the opinion on whether the teen girl deserved to die under Iranian law because you are not an expert on Iranian law - thus logically you must also deny yourself of the opinion whether racially profiled Muslim terrorist suspects can be killed first before confirming their guilt under British law because you are not an expert on British law.

 

[Montalban]

You are neither an expert on Iranian law or British law.

Further to that, he claims to be from India, and has berrated Christians for commenting on 'other countries', therefore he's breaking his own rule AGAIN!

 

[Bookofknowledge]

You are neither an expert on Iranian law or British law.

You deny yourself the opinion on whether the teen girl deserved to die under Iranian law because you are not an expert on Iranian law - thus logically you must also deny yourself of the opinion whether racially profiled Muslim terrorist suspects can be killed first before confirming their guilt under British law because you are not an expert on British law.

I never claimed to be an expert on Iranian or British law. Remember you asked me not the otherway around. I didn't tell you my opinion until you asked me hence you gave me the options to say or not to say my opinions with regards to specific matters.

 

[Kris_J]

I never claimed to be an expert on Iranian or British law. Remember you asked me not the otherway around. I didn't tell you my opinion until you asked me hence you gave me the options to say or not to say my opinions with regards to specific matters.

Just making sure you know that so long as you do not condemn or support the execution of gays & young women in Iran, its hypocritical of you to condemn the racial profiling & killing of Muslim suspected terrorists in Britain.

I can now say according to Bookofknowledge he is not expert on Iranian or British law therefore he cannot condone or support anything that the law authorities of those countries does to Muslims living there.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Just making sure you know that so long as you do not condemn or support the execution of gays & young women in Iran, its hypocritical of you to condemn the racial profiling & killing of Muslim suspected terrorists in Britain.

I can now say according to Bookofknowledge he is not expert on Iranian or British law therefore he cannot condone or support anything that the law authorities of those countries does to its Muslims.

Laws of religion are not the same as laws of a state.

So long as you know - no one loves dictators and killing of innocents in the name of maintaining peace; such countries will not last in power for more then 100 years, it's not me it's a fact from history.

 

[Kris_J]

Laws of religion are not the same as laws of a state.

So long as you know - no one loves dictators and killing of innocents in the name of maintaining peace; such countries will not last in power for more then 100 years, it's not me it's a fact from history.

Does the Quran tell you to keep silent in the face of injustice?

 

[Montalban]

So long as you know - no one loves dictators and killing of innocents in the name of maintaining peace; such countries will not last in power for more then 100 years, it's not me it's a fact from history.

I thought you loved Muhammed!?!

 

[Bookofknowledge]

Does the Quran tell you to keep silent in the face of injustice?

I don't think I have to be more clear on speaking on behalf of innocents and injsutice. Islam is very clear on granting the right of retribution to heir, If anyone is killed unjustly.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

I thought you loved Muhammed!?!

Yes, I Love Prophet Muhammad (SAW).

 

[Kris_J]

I don't think I have to be more clear on speaking on behalf of innocents and injsutice. Islam is very clear on granting the right of retribution to heir, If anyone is killed unjustly.

If the Quran only gives license of opinion to heirs, are you an heir to the ones killed in Iran?

Are you an heir to the suspected Muslim terrorist killed in Britain?

I'd say no on both counts - therefore you have no license to comment according to the Quran.

 

[Bookofknowledge]

If the Quran only gives license of opinion to heirs, are you an heir to the ones killed in Iran?

Can I ?

 

[Kris_J]

Can I ?

You asking me what you should believe regarding your religion makes me laugh when I read your name.