Muslim discrimination

[SkyWriting]

There are currently laws about this, you know...

And if you take advantage of such laws and even OSHA regulations, plus whistle blower laws,
then you can be fired for being 2 minutes late for work any day following that.

So your boss can ruin your credit score and send you into unemployment
at any time, for any (other) reason. Any reason at all.

 

[joshua 1 9]

And if you take advantage of such laws and even OSHA regulations, plus whistle blower laws,
then you can be fired for being 2 minutes late for work any day following that.

So your boss can ruin your credit score and send you into unemployment
at any time, for any (other) reason. Any reason at all.

The amazing thing is that if they want you to work a double without any advance warning then you have to work a double. There is nothing you can do about it. I do not like working for people like that. The more money you make them the more they abuse you. I much prefer to be self employed. Of course you still have to deal with people. There seems to be no getting way from that.

 

[Dave-W]

There are currently laws about this, you know...

Only if it relates to one of the protected subjects.

 

[The Cadet]

Only if it relates to one of the protected subjects.

Not really. Workplace bullying is a significant problem, and there are laws on the books to prevent it. If your boss is consistently causing that kind of mental distress, there's a problem.

 

[-57]

We have empathy and the golden rule. That's usually enough. And keep in mind, you just spent the last few pages arguing that slavery is nuanced and can be morally acceptable... And now you're saying I have nothing to base my morals upon?

Atheist morals are based upon the wind direction...always changing. The bottom line...they have no real morals.

 

[-57]

Morality is a personal set of guidelines.
Though groups can have much in common.

The guidelines change direction like the wind.

 

[Joyful Mama]

Don't let the actions of the few represent the many.

Exactly. Don't let the actions of a few Christians represent what all Christians believe.

 

[Rajni]

Atheist morals are based upon the wind direction...always changing. The bottom line...they have no real morals.

Hmmm....

"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you
cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with
everyone born of the Spirit." ~ John 3:8

So it is with everyone born of the Spirit, not anyone who has
"no real morals" (whatever that's supposed to mean).



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[-57]

Hmmm....

"The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you
cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with
everyone born of the Spirit." ~ John 3:8

So it is with everyone born of the Spirit, not anyone who has
"no real morals" (whatever that's supposed to mean).



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As the pagan you are, I can understand you taking the verse out of context and misapplying it.
The passage is actually about the sovereignty of God in the work of salvation......I trust you stand corrected.

 

[Rajni]

As the pagan you are, I can understand you taking the verse out of context and misapplying it.
The passage is actually about the sovereignty of God in the work of salvation......I trust you stand corrected.

Nope, but thanks for trying.

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[SkyWriting]

The guidelines change direction like the wind.

You can prove that?

 

[SkyWriting]

The amazing thing is that if they want you to work a double without any advance warning then you have to work a double. There is nothing you can do about it. I do not like working for people like that. The more money you make them the more they abuse you. I much prefer to be self employed. Of course you still have to deal with people. There seems to be no getting way from that.

So you you think of yourself more of a slave or more toward peak performance in life?

 

[SkyWriting]

Not really. Workplace bullying is a significant problem, and there are laws on the books to prevent it. If your boss is consistently causing that kind of mental distress, there's a problem.

Oh I know there's a problem. But you can be fired for any (other) reason at any time.

So is this an enlightened age or still leaning toward slavery?

Although an employer is prohibited from firing an employee because of a disability as long as it does not impair his job performance, he is not obliged to maintain in employment an employee whose health problems cause poor attendance or otherwise interfere with his or her ability to carry out the work. https://www.google.com/search?pws=0&q="is+fired+for"&gws_rd=ssl

Teacher is fired for showing anti-bullying video without parent’s permission

....rail worker is fired for telling first-class passengers:
a hot breakfast's off the menu

Warehouse worker, 27, is fired for bullying after he 'liked' a Facebook picture which mocked a colleague's wolf-print fleecehttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3303159/Warehouse-worker-27-fired-liking-picture-colleague-s-wolf-print-fleece-Facebook.html

 

[SkyWriting]

There are currently laws about this, you know...

There are laws about slavery too. So what?

In war-torn Afghanistan, an ancient practice called Bacha Bazi has been revived in which young boys are taught to dance and sold to wealthy men. The translation means to be interested in children. Poor boys are exploited and become sexually abused slaves. It was banned by the Taliban and is still illegal under Afghan law. In a place where women are not allowed to dance in public, boys are made to wear women’s clothing and dance for groups of men. After the shows, the boys are often taken to hotels and subjected to sexual abuse.http://listverse.com/2014/01/07/10-horrifying-examples-of-modern-day-child-slavery/

Yet people are concerned about slavery as documented in scripture?

 

[SkyWriting]

The difference is that many of the conditions have been
improved by additional laws. Similar to the laws that were
in place back then. It's less barbaric, but not that great. - Sky

Whatever makes you sleep at night, dude.

Children Found Sewing Clothing For Wal-Mart, Hanes & Other U.S. & European Companies
From the Institute for Global Labour and Human Rights (formerly National Labor Committee)
According to a National Labor Committee 2006 report, an estimated 200 children, some 11 years old or even younger, are sewing clothing for Hanes, Wal-Mart, J.C. Penney, and Puma at the Harvest Rich factory in Bangladesh.

The children report being routinely slapped and beaten,

sometimes falling down from exhaustion, forced to work 12 to 14 hours a day, even some all-night, 19-to-20-hour shifts, often seven days a week, for wages as low as 6 ½ cents an hour. The wages are so wretchedly low that many of the child workers get up at 5:00 a.m. each morning to brush their teeth using just their finger and ashes from the fire, since they cannot afford a toothbrush or toothpaste.

 

[SkyWriting]

Atheist morals are based upon the wind direction...always changing. The bottom line...they have no real morals.

I can't agree. My morals didn't change a bit after I was saved.
I had the same sense of right and wrong before and after.
I always considered this a stumbling block to my faith.

 

[The Cadet]

Atheist morals are based upon the wind direction...always changing. The bottom line...they have no real morals.

So the basic needs and wants of humanity are always changing? Did people 100 years ago not care if you murdered them? Again, you have no idea what you're talking about.

There are laws about slavery too. So what?

There's a significant difference, morally, between "we condone this" and "we are trying very hard to ban this but not succeeding".

 

[SkyWriting]

There's a significant difference, morally, between "we condone this" and "we are trying very hard to ban this but not succeeding".

Slavery is the same as employment today but with improved workplace rules.
We still buy workers from outside the country just to harvest crops and do
not subject legal citizens to the same working conditions.
There are "workplace rules" in scripture for both the employer and worker
telling them how to act toward each other.

Does scripture support employment / slavery? Yes.
Does it support rules for employers for fair treatment? Yes
Does it cover "old" rules that have been superseded by
more improved work-place/life-place rules? Yes

Does it specifically explain the old rules (that stick in your craw) have been replaced and improved? Yes

21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago,
‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’
22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to a brother or sister, ‘Raca,’d is answerable to the court. And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.

38“You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.
39 But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

27“You have heard that it was said,
‘You shall not commit adultery.’e
28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

43“You have heard that it was said,
‘Love your neighbor i and hate your enemy.’
44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous.
46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that?
47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Like I said...conditions have improved some.

Yes.... like, today, we have this thing called "universal human rights" and it's no longer okay to "own" and "sell" humans and keep them as slaves.

My boss has people crying once a month or so.
Physical violence does not cause as much damage
as psychological damage can.

Your defense of the practice of beating "employees", is noted.

 

[SkyWriting]

Yes.... like, today, we have this thing called "universal human rights" and it's no longer okay to "own" and "sell" humans and keep them as slaves.

Yes, it's called employment now.