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Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.

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Some readers sure like him:

 
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Some readers sure like him:
Yup; many people love, or want, to believe in quantum mysticism, just as many loved, or wanted, to believe in magic in days of yore. It's generally not the case for those who work in the field and understand it best.
 
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Some Quantum Physicists ...
Starting off with a lie, DennisTate, because the video you posted was from a new age self help guru, not a quantum physicist. William Joseph Bray (physicist and chemist who worked for the FDA according to Amazon) is also not a quantum physicist !

You are wrong, DennisTate. Some people are more deluded than other people and, as you are making clear, make up fantasies and write deluded books about NDE. And in this case the crank idiocy of "quantum" magic.

There are actual quantum physicists who have studied possible links between real quantum physics and consciousness (not Bray's stupidity of a link to NDE and "infinite nature" idiocy). The well known example is Wigner's friend which in many interpretations of QM but not all of them implies the need of some form of consciousness.
 
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Former Atheist Howard Storm found out the hard way when he found his consciousness outside his body during his brush with death. You are free to believe his testimony...... or not..... that is certainly your decision. But M-Theory has eleven invisible higher dimensions of space and time and Bosonic String Theory has twenty six..... so if you see no correlation....... that is up to you!


Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience



 
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Do you mean my online friend that I quoted in post #1?

If so.... thank you immensely.... because his IQ is about fifty four points higher than mine.


I just try to make correlations and comparisons....

These two levels could be one part of sixth, seventh and eighth dimensional space - time:
Dr. George Ritchie's Near-Death Experience
 
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More ignorant fantasies from DennisTate about the hallucinations and invalid theology of a Dr. George Ritchie.
A Christian Rebuttal to George G. Ritchie's Return from Tomorrow


But what he saw sure does remind me of invisible dimensions of space and time that as you go higher and higher....... each higher level would be INVISIBLE to the lower dimensions!

 
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More ignorant fantasies from DennisTate about the hallucinations and invalid theology of a Dr. George Ritchie.
A Christian Rebuttal to George G. Ritchie's Return from Tomorrow

But... the greatly increasing levels of energy in each higher invisible dimension of String Theory.... sure sounds like how energy levels go off the scale as scientists approach quantum vacuum......

which reminds me of descriptions of how powerful Messiah Yeshua - Jesus is now....... that he is over 2000 years old.....


How powerful is Messiah Yeshua - Jesus really?

The Final Quest [English] Rick Joyner
The Power of His Word
 
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But... the greatly increasing levels of energy in each higher invisible dimension of String Theory.... sure sounds like how energy levels go off the scale as scientists approach quantum vacuum......
The 'invisible dimensions' of String Theory are not fantasy 'higher' dimensions, or nested in some hierarchy, they're additional orthogonal spatial dimensions curled up very small ('compactified'), at close to the Planck length.
 
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He makes it sound as if the Bible is special in claiming a start to the universe. It isn't - many cultures have or had origin myths where the universe was created by some mythical entity or emerged from chaos, etc. Science made no assumptions about its origin until there was evidence for it (although suggestions of an origin long pre-date Penzias & Wilson - Gorges Lemaitre proposed the 'primordial atom', from which the universe expanded, around 1930).

For a scientist to be interpreting an ancient text in order to have it match with the discoveries of science is a sad abrogation of scientific and philosophical principles, in the form of the Shoehorning Fallacy.
 
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But what he saw sure does remind me of invisible dimensions of space and time that as you go higher and higher...!
More ignorant fantasies, DennisTate, because are none of these imagined "invisible dimensions of space and time that as you go higher and higher" in physics or any of the hallucinations you have and still are citing.

M-Theory and string theory are that there are 3 macroscopic space dimensions, 1 macroscopic time dimension and other compacted hyperspace dimensions. The insanity of people saying they have travelled into these compacted hyperspace dimensions and seen people, cities, etc. is that this is physically impossible. The compacted hyperspace dimensions are very small because they are not observed in experiments.

This thread is mostly you blindly citing deluded people, even the obvious liar in the OP (read Ezekiel 37).
 
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The other dimensions are not observed.......
because we cannot yet attain the levels of energy necessary to observe them.

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I don't think that it is pure coincidence that near death experiencers come back with such excellent advice for all of us....... but usually.... it takes then about a decade to digest the whole thing before they feel free to discuss it or write about it.

 
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The other dimensions are not observed.......
because we cannot yet attain the levels of energy necessary to observe them.
That statement makes it very ignorant to state that people with normal energies have observed these dimensions, DennisTate.

But you are wrong. We observe the other dimensions because strings in these dimensions are the existing fundamental particles. We observe them!

Ignorance about what you quoted. Unification of forces in the early universe is not string theory. Unification of forces and the role of supersymmetry. We observe that in the early universe, forces get close to being the same. Add supersymmetry and they become the same. This happens even if string theory is wrong.

This thread is mostly you blindly citing deluded people, even the obvious liar in the OP (read Ezekiel 37).
Fantasies from a Christian Andreason who does not give any credible evidence of a NDE. Read his account and you see an combination of pain killers and anesthesia making him unconscious. You do not need a degree in medicine to suspect drug induced hallucinations.
 
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That is one way to look at all of this.......
but out of the body experiences or even full fledged near death experiences can now be induced under controlled essentially laboratory conditions.

The Trigger of Extreme Gravity: Dr. James Winnery's NDE Research

 
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That is one way to look at all of this.......
The actual way to look at this is a thread which is mostly you blindly citing deluded people, even the obvious liar in the OP (read Ezekiel 37).
Fantasies about NDE being caused by "extreme gravity" from an deluded Dr. James Winnery. This chemistry professor has the stupidity of a web page with no actual evidence or data.

Credible NDE's mostly happen when people are near death in normal gravity. People undergoing extreme acceleration are not near death. They become unconscious because of the g-forces. It is called gravitationally-induced loss of consciousness ! The physical symptoms include tunnel vision and sometimes brief, vivid dreams afterwards.
 
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