[MOVED] This is all a simulated world reality that does not exist apart from us

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But things are still only where they are or will be based on our, sometimes, and much of the time, deep subconscious level, of "directing it" or expecting it to be there where it they are or is, etc, but on a "level" not usually ever detectable or knowable to us, etc...

Like you post though, why I marked it "informative", etc...

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It is exactly because quantum physics violates our experience of expectation and predication in the "real world" that scientists have been unable to formulate the theory that works for both "our world" and the "quantum world".

We can suffer unconsciousness ... and yet wake in the same hospital bed we were laid in. Our real life experience is that mass stays where it is ... unless it is acted upon by an external force. We live our lives in this world through expectation and prediction. We set our clocks to the predictable movement of the sun, moon, and stars. We grow crops based on the predictability of the seasons, rainfall, soil development/ depletion cycles, etc. We live in a very ordered universe. Everything is as it is for multiple reasons. Nothing is unknowable except, perhaps, God.
 
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What is "real"...? How do you define "real"...?
You said this world was a simulation. A simulation isn't real. It's like a video game where if you die it tells you "better luck next time." In the real world, we only get one chance at this thing called life. It's no simulation.
 
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This is all a simulated world reality that does not exist apart from us (and God, or the gods) as the "observers", or "players", etc, as I'm going to talk about and use as an example video games that are simulated worlds or realities as an very primitive example, etc...

In certain video games, you, as the player, are the only thing that is truly "real" in it, etc, or, as it relates to this world, or our world, our "spirits", or consciousnesses, are the only thing really real in it, and nothing else is really real in it, this is evidenced by the fact that nothing really exists without or apart from the observer observing it, etc, in the very moments that they are observing it, etc, and then it is all "filled in" at that point, just like a simulated world or reality would be in say, a video game, etc...

The reality is stored as numbers or a program and things are in or appear to in any number of places, etc, until you are in it and/or are observing things in it, and/or moving around and/or observing and/or playing in it, etc, then it is "filled in", etc... and while you can see this and know this in a video game very clearly, it's not as obvious in this or the reality we are in right now, cause it all happens instantly and instantaneously, etc, but many things, especially in the quantum world, are telling us this, as we try to make sense of it (the quantum world), etc...

I think we are seeing what we are seeing in the quantum world because this is very much a simulated reality and is not really "real", etc, and there is something even "more real" "beyond this", etc, and that there is something in us, that is more real than this or goes beyond all of "this" also, etc, like our "katra" or our spirits, etc, or that which "truly contains what we are" or our consciousnesses, etc...

Especially since things do not seem to exist apart from our input or observing it/them, etc, then they just kind of "pop into place or become so in that spot at that time, etc, and before that appears to be in all and of any kinds of places and/or positions, etc, until we actually observe and/or turn our focus or gaze or attention to it or them, etc, then it is, in that instant, it is all of the sudden "there", where we are expecting it to be, etc, and then when we turn away, it is not again, etc, until we look or see or hear, (or smell or whatever), then it is "again", etc, and then not again not when we are not again, etc...

Anyway, we know this in and from simulated worlds and or realities we create, so why can't it be true of this world or reality, that is a program or simulated reality made and/or created and/or designed by something and someone else far "higher" or far greater or a people way far more "advanced" than we are, etc...? Way far more advanced than we are, etc...?

Do you think what we are seeing in the quantum realm or world is telling us more and more that this world or physical reality could actually be kind of like a simulated world or reality or not...?

Discuss...?

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First, that renders the eucharist rather meaningless since it's a first person experience, not really a third person topic..

Second, my daughter can't walk or talk so I might say "simulated reality" is rather off target. Although I will say, if we "Believe" or we "don't believe" or we are "agnostic" that tends to be in a third person detached view and thus yes that is a simulated reality of the intellect itself. my daughter exists in the first person always. Us smart folk generally prattle around intellectually. Taken to the extreme the bible starts to be a talking golden calf. All are guilty all are forgiven.
 
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This is all a simulated world reality that does not exist apart from us (and God, or the gods) as the "observers", or "players", etc, as I'm going to talk about and use as an example video games that are simulated worlds or realities as an very primitive example, etc...

In certain video games, you, as the player, are the only thing that is truly "real" in it, etc, or, as it relates to this world, or our world, our "spirits", or consciousnesses, are the only thing really real in it, and nothing else is really real in it, this is evidenced by the fact that nothing really exists without or apart from the observer observing it, etc, in the very moments that they are observing it, etc, and then it is all "filled in" at that point, just like a simulated world or reality would be in say, a video game, etc...

The reality is stored as numbers or a program and things are in or appear to in any number of places, etc, until you are in it and/or are observing things in it, and/or moving around and/or observing and/or playing in it, etc, then it is "filled in", etc... and while you can see this and know this in a video game very clearly, it's not as obvious in this or the reality we are in right now, cause it all happens instantly and instantaneously, etc, but many things, especially in the quantum world, are telling us this, as we try to make sense of it (the quantum world), etc...

I think we are seeing what we are seeing in the quantum world because this is very much a simulated reality and is not really "real", etc, and there is something even "more real" "beyond this", etc, and that there is something in us, that is more real than this or goes beyond all of "this" also, etc, like our "katra" or our spirits, etc, or that which "truly contains what we are" or our consciousnesses, etc...

Especially since things do not seem to exist apart from our input or observing it/them, etc, then they just kind of "pop into place or become so in that spot at that time, etc, and before that appears to be in all and of any kinds of places and/or positions, etc, until we actually observe and/or turn our focus or gaze or attention to it or them, etc, then it is, in that instant, it is all of the sudden "there", where we are expecting it to be, etc, and then when we turn away, it is not again, etc, until we look or see or hear, (or smell or whatever), then it is "again", etc, and then not again not when we are not again, etc...

Anyway, we know this in and from simulated worlds and or realities we create, so why can't it be true of this world or reality, that is a program or simulated reality made and/or created and/or designed by something and someone else far "higher" or far greater or a people way far more "advanced" than we are, etc...? Way far more advanced than we are, etc...?

Do you think what we are seeing in the quantum realm or world is telling us more and more that this world or physical reality could actually be kind of like a simulated world or reality or not...?

Discuss...?

God Bless!
Do you consider yourself a Christian? If so, can you show me where in the Bible it says all this?
 
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Do you consider yourself a Christian? If so, can you show me where in the Bible it says all this?
I originally posted this as "scientific" discussion, and what the science is saying...

God Bless!
 
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Do you consider yourself a Christian? If so, can you show me where in the Bible it says all this?
All of the hairs on your head are numbered, not one sparrow falls to the ground without you Father's knowledge or knowing it...?

Anyway, I was originally just wanting to go with the science...

I googled, "Is this reality a simulation", you should try it sometime...

God Bless!
 
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This is all a simulated world reality that does not exist apart from us (and God, or the gods) as the "observers", or "players", etc, as I'm going to talk about and use as an example video games that are simulated worlds or realities as an very primitive example, etc...

In certain video games, you, as the player, are the only thing that is truly "real" in it, etc, or, as it relates to this world, or our world, our "spirits", or consciousnesses, are the only thing really real in it, and nothing else is really real in it, this is evidenced by the fact that nothing really exists without or apart from the observer observing it, etc, in the very moments that they are observing it, etc, and then it is all "filled in" at that point, just like a simulated world or reality would be in say, a video game, etc...

The reality is stored as numbers or a program and things are in or appear to in any number of places, etc, until you are in it and/or are observing things in it, and/or moving around and/or observing and/or playing in it, etc, then it is "filled in", etc... and while you can see this and know this in a video game very clearly, it's not as obvious in this or the reality we are in right now, cause it all happens instantly and instantaneously, etc, but many things, especially in the quantum world, are telling us this, as we try to make sense of it (the quantum world), etc...

I think we are seeing what we are seeing in the quantum world because this is very much a simulated reality and is not really "real", etc, and there is something even "more real" "beyond this", etc, and that there is something in us, that is more real than this or goes beyond all of "this" also, etc, like our "katra" or our spirits, etc, or that which "truly contains what we are" or our consciousnesses, etc...

Especially since things do not seem to exist apart from our input or observing it/them, etc, then they just kind of "pop into place or become so in that spot at that time, etc, and before that appears to be in all and of any kinds of places and/or positions, etc, until we actually observe and/or turn our focus or gaze or attention to it or them, etc, then it is, in that instant, it is all of the sudden "there", where we are expecting it to be, etc, and then when we turn away, it is not again, etc, until we look or see or hear, (or smell or whatever), then it is "again", etc, and then not again not when we are not again, etc...

Anyway, we know this in and from simulated worlds and or realities we create, so why can't it be true of this world or reality, that is a program or simulated reality made and/or created and/or designed by something and someone else far "higher" or far greater or a people way far more "advanced" than we are, etc...? Way far more advanced than we are, etc...?

Do you think what we are seeing in the quantum realm or world is telling us more and more that this world or physical reality could actually be kind of like a simulated world or reality or not...?

Discuss...?

God Bless!
That's all very speculative. And in any event we're all just very sophisticated (in terms of complexity) created machines situated in a world where we can do real harm to neighbor and are consequently morally accountable for our actions.
 
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Sounds like an oxymoron true but what I mean is a sandbox for children was designed and created by a parent for their child to have a place.

Agree with your post very very much.
 
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On the 4th page and not a single picture of Morpheus to be found.

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If nothing is real, nothing matters. Why would anything be evil in such a reality?

Just because things aren't real, doesn't mean they don't matter.
You could be learning to fly a plane in a training simulator, decide that since it's a simulator, nothing is real, and violate the rules crashing the plane repeatedly and deliberately. No one ever actually gets hurt. Except for you - you lose the opportunity to spend the simulation time learning to fly, and you will definitely NOT get a pilot's license at the end of it.
 
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Heard about this theory before. Though this is not the real realm so to speak it is very real. For everything God creates is life. And the only way we can change anything here out side of GOD is to be a God if you asked me. I don't see this being popped some day and poof all gone lol
 
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I do 100% overarchingly agree that, even if this is kind of like a "simulation" in a way, maybe compared to what awaits us, etc, anyway I do 100% overarchingly agree that our actions/inactions here, our behavior and choices here, matter, very, very, very much, or more than we probably know or very many of us fully realize here...

There are consequences and rewards both here, and most importantly "here regarding the next life", that only get to be made and/or decided in this life here, that "matter" very much a great, great deal, or more than anything, etc, even if it is, or was, or turns out to be, kind of like a simulation compared to what awaits us, etc,

But I also never said they did not either...

Anyway,

God Bless!
 
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