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Why is it that we never hear a thing about the grandfather and grandmother of God?
None of all this is righteous, none of it is right, nor good nor proper to discuss - as so much came from outside Christ, NOT Biblical Truth.
 
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None of all this is righteous, none of it is right, nor good nor proper to discuss - as so much came from outside Christ, NOT Biblical Truth.

I agree, but the Bible does not rate very high in Catholic theology and Tradition.
 
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Actually, it is. Can you answer it?

Short answer...I don't know. I was answering the question, "Is Mary the Mother of God?" I always viewed this as a self-evident "Yes"...even when I was Protestant. But you have given me something to ponder, friend. Maybe because the role they (Mary's mother and father) played in salvation history is not nearly as consequential, seeing that she was the most important person (non divine person) in the unfolding of God's plan of salvation. I'll see what Father says next time I see him.
 
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Actually, it is. Can you answer it?
I'm a grandfather, and I am of Yahweh, (I am Yahweh's) ,
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therefore ? I am Yahweh's grandfather !? :) I am Yahweh's father, I am Yahweh's son, I am Yahweh's no matter what I am ! COOL ! (HIS SHEER AMAZING GRACE ! )
 
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Scripture mentions Mary many times; therefore Liturgical Churches continue to honor her; this month on the 15th, variously as the Assumption, Dormation, St. Mary, Mother of our Lord. Christ's Grand Mother and Grand Father on Mary's side would be Jochim and Anna. Right, not in Scripture, but handed down in tradition.

Assumption? Some anecdotal (admittedly thin) evidence; precedents would be Elijah and Moses.
Dormation and Feast day; commemorating the day she fell asleep (died); day right or wrong; who knows?

All I know is that I will be remembering her on the 15th.

If god did not want us to know about her and remember her, He would not have told us about her in His Word.
 
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Scripture mentions Mary many times; therefore Liturgical Churches continue to honor her; this month on the 15th, variously as the Assumption, Dormation, St. Mary, Mother of our Lord. Christ's Grand Mother and Grand Father on Mary's side would be Jochim and Anna. Right, not in Scripture, but handed down in tradition.

Assumption? Some anecdotal (admittedly thin) evidence; precedents would be Elijah and Moses.
Dormation and Feast day; commemorating the day she fell asleep (died); day right or wrong; who knows?

All I know is that I will be remembering her on the 15th.

If god did not want us to know about her and remember her, He would not have told us about her in His Word.

Then I take it that because Mary's parents are not mentioned in God's Word, God did not want us to know about them and remember them. That is an interesting perspective.
 
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Why is it that we never hear a thing about the grandfather and grandmother of God?
We commemorate them at the end of every Divine Liturgy. Saints Joachim and Anna.
 
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Why is it that we never hear a thing about the grandfather and grandmother of God?
Joachim and Anna? Maybe you just don't travel in the right circles.
 
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I agree, but the Bible does not rate very high in Catholic theology and Tradition.
Thank you so kindly for telling me that the Bible doesn't rate for Catholics. But should I really believe you? I think not.
 
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Thank you so kindly for telling me that the Bible doesn't rate for Catholics. But should I really believe you? I think not.

I agree entirely. Don't believe me or anyone else or any human institution. Believe the Bible and you will be doing very well.
 
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Joachim and Anna? Maybe you just don't travel in the right circles.

I probably don't. However, although I have observed innumerable Catholic church buildings dedicated to Mary and various aspects of her person and work, I have not found any dedicated to either Joachim or Anna. However, before you trounce me, I stand corrected. I did a quick google search and found several Catholic Churches of St. Joachim. There are even a few named after Sta. Anna.

The reality is that Mary does receive immensely more coverage in the Catholic Church than her parents do. I merely find that to be curious and nothing more. Interestingly neither of Mary's parents are mentioned in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
 
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Then I take it that because Mary's parents are not mentioned in God's Word, God did not want us to know about them and remember them. That is an interesting perspective.
Christian Forums and automobiles are not mentioned in God's Word; therefore God does not want you to know about them either; that makes about as much sense. It's a nonsence argument.
 
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I agree entirely. Don't believe me or anyone else or any human institution. Believe the Bible and you will be doing very well.
I do. And that's why I'm Catholic.
 
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I probably don't. However, although I have observed innumerable Catholic church buildings dedicated to Mary and various aspects of her person and work, I have not found any dedicated to either Joachim or Anna. However, before you trounce me, I stand corrected. I did a quick google search and found several Catholic Churches of St. Joachim. There are even a few named after Sta. Anna.

The reality is that Mary does receive immensely more coverage in the Catholic Church than her parents do. I merely find that to be curious and nothing more. Interestingly neither of Mary's parents are mentioned in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
If Jesus is the main event, it should be no surprise that his mother gets less attention than he does, and his grandparents less, and his greatgrandparents even less.
 
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