Morticians reporting a strange phenomenon

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I haven't bothered clicking on the link due to the title of the topic, and assuming it was a story about morticians claiming unusual clotting in arteries. The thing is, I know a mortician. We were friends growing up. And he's not mentioned anything like this to me.
That is never wise.

The video directly addresses the claim you are making and blows it outta the water.

Einstein has a quote about people who make a judgment without even considering the evidence first.

Can you tell us what that quote is? :)
 
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That is never wise.

The video directly addresses the claim you are making and blows it outta the water.

Einstein has a quote about people who make a judgment without even considering the evidence first.

Can you tell us what that quote is? :)
Why don’t you show us the evidence that directly links the vaccines to any deaths?
 
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Depopulation conspiracy headlines should pull down some good profits on media outlets for at least a week or two. The more people are posting, the more money for the outlet.

I think that's why headlines have gotten more adversarial in nature. If you can produce more headlines that point to a certain point of view, people will just post more and more going back and forth on whatever media platform they use. More opinion pieces and editorials are pointing to one side or another, fueling debates.

I know I am seeing more and more extreme or controversial opinions being adopted by everyday people.
 
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Why don’t you show us the evidence that directly links the vaccines to any deaths?
I found this low hanging fruit within 2 minutes:

The waning efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and increasingly contagious strains of the virus being spread to elderly and immunocompromised people have resulted in more deaths among those who have taken at least one vaccine dose, a Washington Post analysis published Wednesday finds.

 
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I found this low hanging fruit within 2 minutes:

The waning efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and increasingly contagious strains of the virus being spread to elderly and immunocompromised people have resulted in more deaths among those who have taken at least one vaccine dose, a Washington Post analysis published Wednesday finds.

Here is the original article, rather than the commentary on the article. Here is the CDC data used in the analysis.

Let’s take a look at deaths in August, when the highly contagious BA.5 variant reached its peak:
  • That month, unvaccinated people aged 6 months and older died at about six times the rate of those who had received their primary series of shots.
  • People with one booster dose were even better protected. Unvaccinated people over the age of 5 had about 8 times the risk of dying from a coronavirus infection than those who received a booster shot.
  • Among individuals who were eligible to receive additional booster shots, the gap is even more striking. Unvaccinated people 50 and up had 12 times the risk of dying from covid-19 than adults the same age with two or more booster doses.

The people most likely to be vaccinated are the old, the immunocompromised and the unhealthy - the very people who are most likely to die of any cause. The more people are vaccinated, the more likely a vaccinated person will be to get rampant virus surging through the population. If 100% are vaccinated, then it is less likely that anyone will get it, but certain that any that does will have been vaccinated.
 
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I found this low hanging fruit within 2 minutes:

The waning efficacy of COVID-19 vaccines and increasingly contagious strains of the virus being spread to elderly and immunocompromised people have resulted in more deaths among those who have taken at least one vaccine dose, a Washington Post analysis published Wednesday finds.

That’s not what I’m asking for.

The evidence that a vaccine injection lead directly to a person’s death. Do you have that evidence? Do you have evidence that any of the deaths featured in the film are directly and solely attributed to having been vaccinated?
 
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Why don’t you show us the evidence that directly links the vaccines to any deaths?
:D

What specific evidence do you demand?

What specific evidence would you submit to and admit that you are 100% wrong in your position that the vaccines cause death, OR conditions that may lead to death?

Decide what is the most impossible evidence for anybody to produce and then respond.
 
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MOD HAT ON
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MOD HAT OFF
 
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:D

What specific evidence do you demand?

What specific evidence would you submit to and admit that you are 100% wrong in your position that the vaccines cause death, OR conditions that may lead to death?

Decide what is the most impossible evidence for anybody to produce and then respond.
An actual statistical analysis showing that the vaccines themselves are leading to an untimely death that otherwise would not have happened without the vaccine having been administered.

In other words, show that the vaccines are what's killing people, not that vaccinated people have died. There is a subtle but important difference there.
 
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An actual statistical analysis showing that the vaccines themselves are leading to an untimely death that otherwise would not have happened without the vaccine having been administered.

In other words, show that the vaccines are what's killing people, not that vaccinated people have died. There is a subtle but important difference there.
And your response shows that you didn't watch the video.

Your demanded evidence is contained therein.

You can refuse to watch it, and encourage others not to as well, but to continue to argue that it doesn't show things that it DOES show, without even examining it yourself, is just plain silly.

Watch the video then get back to me.
 
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And your response shows that you didn't watch the video.

Your demanded evidence is contained therein.

You can refuse to watch it, and encourage others not to as well, but to continue to argue that it doesn't show things that it DOES show, without even examining it yourself, is just plain silly.

Watch the video then get back to me.
I’m not going to waste my time with an obvious propaganda piece. If this movie is the only evidence you can find on the subject then that isn’t very convincing at all. They’ve already been shown to be lying about specific cases they’re presenting as evidence. Why do still take them at their word?
 
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Whoa. So I can assume you've read the ENTIRETY of the scientific literature on COVID, or should I think that perhaps it was limited to information that conforms to your view?
I mean, you likely don't need to "demand" the information so much as "learn how to find" the information.
I have read a good deal of it. Not sure anyone has been able to read the "ENTIRETY of the scientific information". But most decidedly, I have read information on all viewpoints from scientific experts and doctors, not just Aunt Sally yakking, as you seem to think. Oddly.
 
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Why do still take them at their word?
You're the one doing that.

You're rejecting information only at its face value without looking into it.

I don't take anyone at their word. I view videos, read personal accounts, listen to those making the case for and those against.

You are indirectly accusing me of blindly accepting someone's claims while it's actually you who are refusing to look into what they're claiming.

Just as I said you would, you demanded specific evidence in order to buy their claims, then when confronted with said evidence, you moved the goal posts and further denied their legitimacy.

It's your argument that is a waste of time for anybody to consider. Not those who painstakingly, and expensively, put together an entire video of evidence against the mainstream claims. Nobody watches that video sincerely and honestly and comes away claiming that the news media is still giving us all the information on these matters.
 
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You're the one doing that.

You're rejecting information only at its face value without looking into it.

I don't take anyone at their word. I view videos, read personal accounts, listen to those making the case for and those against.

You are indirectly accusing me of blindly accepting someone's claims while it's actually you who are refusing to look into what they're claiming.

Just as I said you would, you demanded specific evidence in order to buy their claims, then when confronted with said evidence, you moved the goal posts and further denied their legitimacy.

It's your argument that is a waste of time for anybody to consider. Not those who painstakingly, and expensively, put together an entire video of evidence against the mainstream claims. Nobody watches that video sincerely and honestly and comes away claiming that the news media is still giving us all the information on these matters.
How many of these individual cases from the movie have you looked into yourself? I’ve already seen a couple taken down as obviously fake or misleading. Show me some that are confirmed to be real.

Just one case.
 
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The study demonstrated that there are always slightly irregular or misfolded fibrous blood clots being formed within the body, but at the same time the body has a mechanism for removing them. However, once small amounts of spike protein are added into the mix – at concentrations AMD believes will be reached through vaccination – those irregular fibrous clots spiral out of control and come to dominate the clotting process. At this point, the body’s mechanisms for removing them are no longer able to outpace this growth function and they instead grow until they are constrained in size by the blood vessels they are within like the large fibrous clots shown in Died Suddenly.

 
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How many of these individual cases from the movie have you looked into yourself? I’ve already seen a couple taken down as obviously fake or misleading. Show me some that are confirmed to be real.

Just one case.
Show us proof that those that are taken down are fake/misleading and not just disliked by the agenda/propaganda machine.

Just ask yourself: Who has the power to take them down?

The very people who have the power to push all the propaganda and hide all the information that is contrary to their claims.

You don't see the public at large with the ability to censor information that THEY don't agree is helpful or Truthful, do you?

Nope.

On the contrary, they are all force-fed only the information that supports the media's consensus message of obedience and submission to the corporate pharmaceutical giants pushing this stuff. They don't even allow citizens to know what's in this crap. The paper inserts with the vials are BLANK and when people who actually work in the medical fields try to contact the CDC to make them aware of certain findings, they are stone-walled. Nobody will speak to them and nobody will even take a moment to LISTEN.

That doesn't sit so well with the citizens who ONLY EVER ASKED FOR TRANSPARENCY and to be able to trust those who are charged with their care and the care of their loved ones.

Is that so much to ask?
 
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Show us proof that those that are taken down are fake/misleading and not just disliked by the agenda/propaganda machine.

Just ask yourself: Who has the power to take them down?

The very people who have the power to push all the propaganda and hide all the information that is contrary to their claims.

You don't see the public at large with the ability to censor information that THEY don't agree is helpful or Truthful, do you?

Nope.

On the contrary, they are all force-fed only the information that supports the media's consensus message of obedience and submission to the corporate pharmaceutical giants pushing this stuff. They don't even allow citizens to know what's in this crap. The paper inserts with the vials are BLANK and when people who actually work in the medical fields try to contact the CDC to make them aware of certain findings, they are stone-walled. Nobody will speak to them and nobody will even take a moment to LISTEN.

That doesn't sit so well with the citizens who ONLY EVER ASKED FOR TRANSPARENCY and to be able to trust those who are charged with their care and the care of their loved ones.

Is that so much to ask?
You can just say you don’t have a single case you can confirm is true and save some time for both of us.
 
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That doesn't sit so well with the citizens who ONLY EVER ASKED FOR TRANSPARENCY and to be able to trust those who are charged with their care and the care of their loved ones.
When the governments stopped being the final authority, having become appendages of Corporatism, one can hardly expect their agencies to be any more credible.
 
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You can just say you don’t have a single case you can confirm is true and save some time for both of us.
It's painfully obvious the video is 100% legit.

You have no means by which to comment otherwise as you refuse to view it.

Go play elsewhere.
 
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