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Then why do you quote one of the founders of the ICR, Henry Morris, here so often?ICR can take a hike.
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Then why do you quote one of the founders of the ICR, Henry Morris, here so often?ICR can take a hike.
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Mike Elphick said:Maybe Noah was a real person.
In other words -- you don't know.
AV1611VET said:Mike Elphick said:Who knows?
I do.
Only an atheist could call one paragraph a "long post."What a long post!
According to you, 90% of the world is childish and all these childish civilizations conspired with one another using time machines.<staff edit>
Mike Elphick said:What a long post!
Only an atheist could call one paragraph a "long post."
Right.And I don't describe myself as an atheist. Thanks.
Most of us are opposed to creationism (not just YEC) because it is indeed anti-science. This includes Hindu creationists or any other kind, as well. But then.... you already knew all that.Right.
You're a "friend of Christianity" and "not anti-religion".
Yet you "oppose Young Earth Creationism, not only because it is based on a fabric of lies and misinformation, but because it is a threat to all hard-won human knowledge".
Not Hinduism, not Buddhism, not Theosophy, Mormonism, etc.
It just happens to be YECs you see fit to advertise against.
Yes -- I already knew that -- and almost change it to "gap theorists, day-agers and OECs"; but didn't.Most of us are opposed to creationism (not just YEC) because it is indeed anti-science. This includes Hindu creationists or any other kind, as well. But then.... you already knew all that.
ICR can take a hike.
The Epic of Gilgamesh is Satan's cheap imitation for what really happened -- we call it Diabolical Plagiarism.
Has it occurred to you (or ICR) that a copy of the Epic of Gilgamesh can indeed be older than a copy of Genesis 6-9 -- even though Genesis 6-9 was written before the Epic of Gilgamesh?
In addition, notice that Shem -- Noah's son -- lived right up to the time that Jacob was born.
Thus he provided eyewitness testimony from someone who was actually there.
I've said this before, and it bears repeating: I'm sure Shem and Nimrod had some real knock-down-drag-out arguments over Nimrod's trash.
Okay -- here's usually where I say something, then ask an excellent question and get no answer.Secondly, Gilgamesh is WAY older than the Bible.
The creationist position is anti-science, but not because they believe in miracles.And I disagree with your term "anti-science".
It is "no science" -- or, as we like to call it -- a miracle.
Miracles circumvent science, not fight it.
Sure it is --The creationist position is anti-science, but not because they believe in miracles.
Mike Elphick said:And I don't describe myself as an atheist. Thanks.
Right.
You're a "friend of Christianity" and "not anti-religion".
Yet you "oppose Young Earth Creationism, not only because it is based on a fabric of lies and misinformation, but because it is a threat to all hard-won human knowledge".
Not Hinduism, not Buddhism, not Theosophy, Mormonism, etc.
AV1611VET said:It just happens to be YECs you see fit to advertise against.
Fair enough, Mike.First of all AV, I have tried to be honest in my personal description.
Okay -- here's usually where I say something, then ask an excellent question and get no answer.
But I'll try.
Scenario:
Question: which story is older? the Flood or the Epic?
- BC2448: The Flood occurs as written in the Bible, Noah records it.
- BC2347: Nimrod, Noah's great-grandson, builds Sumeria.
- BC2300: The Epic of Gilgamesh is written.
- BC2000: The Epic of Gilgamesh is re-written for preservation.
- BC1500: Moses edits Genesis with redactions.
(Please answer this w/o changing any of my words.)
I'll just quote your by-line.Sure it is --
Anyone can quote it -- knowing when to quote it is what counts.I'll just quote your by-line.
SCIENCE CAN TAKE A HIKE
Anyone can quote it -- knowing when to quote it is what counts.
No. Reality and actual human experience are not scientific, they are creationist.Is it scientific for a man to rise from the dead after being dead for three days?
And yes, reality is anti-science.Is this idea anti-science?
Pronounced dead, man takes ‘miraculous’ turn
Doctors can’t explain why 21-year-old Zack Dunlap recovered from accident
A Polish beekeeper who suffered a heart attack after being stung was found alive in his coffin, The Times of London reported.
Josef Guzy, 76, collapsed and fell unconscious after the insect attack earlier in the day and had been pronounced dead at the scene by a doctor.
It was only when the funeral director reached into the coffin for the last time, in order to retrieve a necklace requested by Guzy's grieving would-be widow, that he detected a faint pulse.
Paraguayan man finds his baby son alive after opening his coffin
Paraguayans have hailed a "miracle" after a grieving father opened his baby son's coffin and discovered that the infant was still alive
Because instant annihilation would have all those who drowned in the Flood going to Hell w/o a chance to make what we call a "deathbed confession".
Mike Elphick said:In those days Hell was simply a pit...
What's the Lake of Fire then?
AV1611VET said:lighter fluid?