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When there's a car wreck, with injuries and fatalities even,
on the news, do you question it ? (I sometimes have, but not usually)
Can YOU prove what you saw on the news last week ?
First New findings (today) via internet search <current news churches watching members emails internet>
First excerpt:
"The emails from Saints officials focused on the church's public "messaging" and the manner in which the archdiocese would release of a list of clergy members who were "credibly accused" of sexual abuse, according to the AP.
"The information at issue bears a relationship to these crimes because it is a continuation of the Archdiocese's pattern and practice of concealing its crimes so that the public does not discover its criminal behavior," the attorneys for the men wrote. "And the Saints joined in."
The Saints are fighting in court to keep the emails from being made available to the public. Saints attorneys, in filings obtained by the AP, called any claim of the team helping the church cover up crimes "outrageous" and believe the emails should not be "fodder for the public.""
Multiple Saints execs accused of assisting Catholic Church with 'messaging' in wake of sexual abuse scandal
So ? What certain churches , specifically, are named as keylogging their members ? (anywhere in this thread or forum) ?"Go look for it on the web" is not a sufficient response to the challenge to provide proof that certain Churches are keylogging their members.
None of this has anything to do with churches using key logging to gather info on their congregants.That's a true statement.
Anything else specifically ?
(noting that not all , if any at times, keylogging is illegal)
Next question for you: (regarding morality/ lack there of, in places)
How many churches were guilty in the last year, ten years, one hundred years, for much more serious crimes (actual criminal crimes). ?
(examples coming slowly, no worry, for those seeking the truth)
https://www.pewforum.org/2011/03/31/churches-in-court5/
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www.latimes.com › california › story › sex-abuse-lawsuits-alleged-vic...
As window for sex-abuse lawsuits opens, alleged victims ...
Jan 2, 2020 - The lawsuits are the first of what are expected to be scores of claims against churches and other organizations for long-ago sexual abuse.
oops.... no such claim was ever made..... (just now saw this part of this post) ....And it says nothing about your claim that all businesses, churches, and the government are doing it.
"Discovered" that it is best to let you watch the news for a week. It is pretty likely some of these activities, or worse ones (morally speaking) will be broadcast locally and/or nationwide soon. That's often what makes the main news story , right ? Most people don't notice it though - it's usually just like elevator music - it is there, but relatively un=noticed and likely ignored. Pay attention for a week. See what comes up without even trying.You're going to have to provide some specific evidence that a specific church has ever done it with anything other than their own equipment.
The secret plans hidden on purpose to hide any kind of wrong activity is quite common, right ? This is human nature, and historically quite common.
Many people go on for decades often, without knowing the activities until they are exposed often in a quick then silenced scandal. Some in ongoing scandals.
If it was your information, or your family, or anyone you know, would you want it to stay hidden or to be revealed = as Paul revealed in the Bible when there were things to be dealt with, and that were dealt with.
The secrecy is so astonishing.... so many people are unaware, and so many don't care or think they cannot do anything about it, or are scared to talk about it....
(not specifically about keylogging, but that is so easy to do anyway, and often not even thought about...)
But about the immorality , the wrong practices economic , or other, potential in any company including religious groups. And often publicised AFTER years of going on....
The claim was that there are churches guilty of keylogging their members. That assertion was challenged and the challenge was met with 'go look for it on the web'. Now you are asking 'what certain churches?So ? What certain churches , specifically, are named as keylogging their members ? (anywhere in this thread or forum) ?
So no , this is incorrect. Like the others, you mis-read the claim. I edit deleted most of them (not the claims, the posts) as I discovered getting to specific named churches (the direction you all seemed to wantr to go) with specific keylogging would not be a good thing to accomplish on this site.The claim was that there are churches guilty of keylogging their members. That assertion was challenged and the challenge was met with 'go look for it on the web'. Now you are asking 'what certain churches?
It doesn't matter, my objection was that the response 'go look for it on the web' is not proof that 'certain churches' or 'any churches' are guilty of that practice.
smile... with hope.... that your motives are indeed as expected pure and holy. I don't remember if you made any false claims/ accusations and it doesn't matter.... the goal was understanding of not only the op, but of the quick and stubborn replies that thought it impossible that churches and other entities could do such a thing, and that such a thing would make them somehow oh so bad or guilty. (when actually it may be a common practice where they work and where they worship without them even ever hearing about it) ....I abandoned this thread; but since you insist on dragging me back into it:
I suggest that you start a pure thread on the subject you feel is important. I'd be honored to come and view it. Don't give recognition to a thread that seems to defame the church.
Your faith is strong. Some are weak. Some have no faith at all; but they are curiously seeking. Their eyes are seeing whatever good you are trying to bring to them, through a lens of wickedness.
Let this thread sink to the depth of obscurity; unless the OP will come back and prove that it is worthy of merit.
I appreciated your help in advising me in my discernment, just last night. I would hope that you would let me help you in return.
Shalom
Please excuse me as I feel an involuntary urge to ramble; sort of like that itch that I feel when a pest starts chewing on my bare back.
Has anyone else noticed that the OP is a new member with only 18 posts; that he stirred up a bunch of stink, attacking nameless churches, posted in the OP without providing any source for his claims; and after that first post goes MIA, appearing to have abandoned the thread?
Does anyone else here feel like a hit and run victim?
Ramble ended.
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