Mohammed

[Nemesis420]

Yea there will be lots of liers, but who was he talking about then. A prophet that will show light in darkness,
Where is that prohet, who is going to make a very big impact on earth.

" I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require [it] of him." (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)

It is also interesting to read the words of the Qur'an:

"Nor does he (Muhammad) speak of his own desire. It is but an Inspiration that is inspired [unto him]" (The noble Qur'an, Al-Najm(53):3-4)



"...This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." (Matthew 21:11) and "..Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people" (Luke 24:19.


Just think for few seconds first then answer

 

[wake up call]

Yea there will be lots of liers, but who was he talking about then. A prophet that will show light in darkness,
Where is that prohet, who is going to make a very big impact on earth.

" I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him. And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require [it] of him." (Deuteronomy 18:18-19)

It is also interesting to read the words of the Qur'an:

"Nor does he (Muhammad) speak of his own desire. It is but an Inspiration that is inspired [unto him]" (The noble Qur'an, Al-Najm(53):3-4)



"...This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." (Matthew 21:11) and "..Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people" (Luke 24:19.


Just think for few seconds first then answer

I'm well aware of all your websites, so rest assured that I thought for more than few seconds



why not copy and paste the whole chapter from Deuteronomy?!!!


start a new topic, and we can debate your claim.

and since you mentioned Muhammad's desires, do you know why Aisha, his favorite, and baby wife- accused his God of "Hastening to fulfill his desires"?!!!

 

[light-bringer]

Stop trying to prove one religion wrong by reading from your religious book.
RESPECT other religions other than yours....

 

[Nemesis420]

i repect Jesus alot. I never tired to bash any relgion but i have the right to defend my relgion.

P.S i am not only quoting from my religious book to prove them wrong i am quoting from their religious book too.

 

[new_manII]

Hello Mssy,

Newman,
"What about Muhamed is the worest one?"
Would u please refrain yourself , from insulting our beloved prophet (PBUH)..
If you have a point you could discuss it civially or else please do not
Thank you
Mssy

thanks for your post.
1- there are admins all over this place, you can simply, click and report my post and tell them all what you think and they will act...
2- if you have spare time to read and comment on my posts, where are you in the "Clear up some..." topic? I am waiting for your answers about Paran and Mecca as well as other questions...
take your time, and let me know your answers there
thanks a lot
nmII

 

[new_manII]

Hello Nemesis420,
how are you? hope that you are fine...

And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And there was evening and there was morning, one day.
One day = it says light darkness night eving moring

Now if it was one day in God day then it should be 1000's of night 1000's days and so on.

Where does it say God make light on the first day it says
If God did creat light on first day then, why did he create light again in 4th day.
1:18 and to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.cb(1,19); 1:19 And there was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.

1- Why do you repeat yourself? you've said that before that One day = it says light darkness night eving moring...
and then you said you can prove that the word *day* mentioned in Gen. means 24 hours...so why are you repeating the same stuff?? or you don't have a prove?
2- good point about 1 day in God's system= 1000 years in our system, and 1 day in our systems = 1000 years in God's [i.e. God's out of time]
so, why won't you prove, as you said that you will, that the day mentioned here means 24 hours Earth's system ? and not 1000 years ?
3- Where does it say God make light on the first day it says ! refer to Book of Gen. Chapter 1...
4- If God did creat light on first day then, why did he create light again in 4th day. ! refer to Book of Gen. Chapter 1 for more info. read carefully to see what God made in the first day, and what was made in the forth day...

Well i can take that, Where did the prohet (PBUM) kill people for no reason.
Mohammed the worst one, aint that a joke, the fastest growing relgion, the most influence man ever walked in this planet. The Guy who talked about nuclear physic.

it is a real joke, don't you know?
++ let's look at Muhamed and see if he's a mercifull man...
Sahih Muslim Book 016, Number 4131:

Anas reported: Eight men of the tribe of 'Ukl came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and swore allegiance to him on Islam, but found the climate of that land uncogenial to their health and thus they became sick, and they made complaint of that to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), and he said: Why don't you go to (the fold) of our camels along with our shepherd, and make use of their milk and urine. They said: Yes. They set out and drank their (camels') milk and urine and regained their health. They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels. This (news) reached Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and he sent them on their track and they were caught and brought to him (the Holy Prophet). He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died.
This hadith has been narrated on the authority of Ibn al-Sabbah with a slight variation of words.

very peacefull indeed... how nice!!

++ Hitler was *the most influence man ever walked in this planet*.
Does that make him a good man?

"He replied, 'I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what he has will be taken away. But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.' After Jesus had said this, he went on ahead, going up to Jerusalem. (From the NIV Bible, Luke 19:26-28)"
Jesus so called God of urs want to kill some one?

You want to say that Jesus is a bad person?
or that the bible is corrupted?
if You want to say that Jesus is as bad as Muhmaed, then you just contradicted your Islam.
and if you want to say that the bible is corrupted, they why do you *quote* from it to prove a point you don't beleive in??

have fun my dear...
very peacefull Muahmed, he just cut thier hands and legs, gouged thier eyes, and then let them in the Sun to die...

nmII

 

[Nemesis420]

Hitler had is influence only on one type of race, Mohammed(PBUM) had over many races also Hitler influence is not as strong as Mohammed.


They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels.

Those people killed the shepherd, it is reasonable that they were killed aswell.

Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’.

‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ?

P.s I never said Jesus was a bad person but some times you have to kill to bring peace.

 

[new_manII]

Hello Nmses,
thanks for your post... very good to be calm...
1- before we go on, now you *confess* that, your point about Pharo's body was false?
you didn't answer these ones too,
1- how many of the arabs were NOT illiterate?
2- what was Muhamed's job before being a *prophet* ?

ARABIC VERSION OF THE BIBLE WAS NOT PRESENT

3- can you tell us what Warqa was doing with the Hebrew Bible?
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Hitler had is influence only on one type of race, Mohammed(PBUM) had over many races also Hitler influence is not as strong as Mohammed.

If Hitler won the war, his influence would've been stronger than Muhamed... He didn't win the war though...
for example, Hitler convinced millions of Germans to go and fight, just in three or four years... while it took Muhamed over 15 years to convince 70 persons with *his message*...
Hitler fought whole Europe and won for four years, while Muhamed fought *innocent* Arabs and won after 8 years...

They killed the shepherd and drove away the camels.
Those people killed the shepherd, it is reasonable that they were killed aswell.

He didn't kill them *as well*, He commanded about them, and (thus) their hands and feet were cut off and their eyes were gouged and then they were thrown in the sun, until they died.

Bible says in Genesis Ch. No. 1 Verses No. 3 and 5,…‘Light was created on the first day.’ Genesis, Ch., 1 Verses, 14 to 19… ‘The cause of light - stars and the sun, etc. was created on the fourth day’.

‘Earth was created on the 3rd day. How can you have a night and day without the earth ?

1- Your Quran says that Allah is light... so does that mean he didn't exist before the creation of the light?
2- go out, look in the streets and you can see cars with *lights* at the front and rear, do you think Sun is the *cause* of these lights?
3- The Bible didn't say God created the light in the first day, and created the Sun in the forth day and created the earth in the third day...
go re-read the Bible, Book of Gen. chapter 1 and come back...

P.s I never said Jesus was a bad person but some times you have to kill to bring peace.

This is Muhamed's and His follwer's concept?? Kill the poor, so that no one will be in need!!! wow...
since you will never say something bad about Jesus, and since you don't beleive in the Bible, and since I don't beleive that Jesus was bad, what was the use of your comment on Luke?? or you just said so without thinking???

think before you post... it's good for you to use your brain, or you walk bare-footed?
be well my friend,
nmII

 

[PurelyIslam]

Hi raym…

Thanks for your questions and I’m glad to have the chance to share my opinion with you regarding those issues..

First what you mentioned about what the Jewish prophets prophesied would be the end of the law.

Well I believe that the prophecies in the bible did not stop at Jesus peace and blessings of Allah be upon him…I believe that along with the verses that foretell of the coming of the Messiah Jesus peace be upon there are more verses that lead to someone other than Jesus. Someone who would be given a revelation from God, and those verses that speak of this person amazingly and with such profound detail fit perfectly no one but the Prophet of Islam peace be upon him.

As for ur question about why could the word of God be changed?
Certainly no human can change the written word of God and Allah the Almighty has the power to protect His scriptures.. But it was Allah’s will that using prior scriptures He let us (humans) learn the hard lesson that WE can’t preserve the scripture on our own. We certainly don’t have Jesus’ original Aramaic words recorded anywhere. And the Torah? He tells us we do not have all of it . And even when reading the bible we can find what proves that there was poor handling from the humans side to safe guard the torah scriptures, the verse could be found in Jeremiah 8:8 which says.. "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie" Because of all this God told us that the final revelation would be protected by HIM, and HE would safeguard it from corruption and not man who continuously failed in doing that. And nothing man or satan can do can change that.

And as for what I think regarding the direction of prayer. According to my humble knowledge early Christians and Jews prayed towards Jerusalem at least that’s how it was at the time of the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. When a Christian tribe visited the Prophet peace be upon him in Madina he allowed them to pray in his mosque and they prayed towards Jerusalem. I don’t have explicit information about this issue ,but what I find worthy to mention is what I know of the fact that in the Quran the issue of praying towards a certain direction is not the soul of ones prayer and which comes in accordance to what you said Jesus taught. The verse is in chapter 2: 177..”Righteousness is not that you turn your faces toward the east or the west, but [true] righteousness is [in] one who believes in Allah, the Last Day, the angels, the Book, and the Prophets and gives wealth inspite of love for it, to relatives, orphans, the needy, the traveler, those who ask [for help], and for freeing slaves,] ; [and who] establishes prayer and gives zakah; [those who] fulfill their promise when they promise; and [those who] are patient in poverty and hardship and during battle. Those are the ones who have been true, and it is those who are the righteous.”

I hope that I was able to answer ur questions..
Take Care...

Purey..

 

[Ave Maria]

I have plenty of respect for Muslims. Most of them are very peaceful and friendly people. However, my view of Mohammed is that he is a false prophet. He preached another gospel and is therefore a false prophet.

 

[new_manII]

hello everyone
I won't comment about prophets after Jesus...etc
or that God let us learn the lesson the hardest way, simply Quran itself didn't say that the Bible is corrupted...
I have one question to Purely Islam

the verse could be found in Jeremiah 8:8 which says.. "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie"

The Bible says that The Bible is false... please, tell us, this statment is true or false?

thanks
nmII

 

[Nemesis420]

hello everyone
......, simply Quran itself didn't say that the Bible is corrupted...
nmII

You need to get ur facts right bro
Noble Verse 5:13 : ".... they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; ....."

 

[new_manII]

hello nmses,
how are you?
PS: you should not greet Jews and Chrisitans unless they do, and if you see one of them, force him to the narrowest side of the road...

You need to get ur facts right bro
Noble Verse 5:13 : ".... they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; ....."

can you tell me the pronoun "They" refer to whom?
put the whole verse...
do not lie.
nmII

 

[Nemesis420]

People of the book. I hope that helps.

 

[new_manII]

put the whole verse...
don't lie.

 

[Nemesis420]

13. But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard; they altered the words from their places and they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of; and you shall always discover treachery in them excepting a few of them; so pardon them and turn away; surely Allah loves those who do good (to others).

14. And with those who say, We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they neglected a portion of what they were reminded of, therefore We excited among them enmity and hatred to the day of resurrection; and Allah will inform them of what they did.

I hope that help u Peace OUT

 

[new_manII]

But on account of their breaking their covenant We cursed them and made their hearts hard;

"their" refer to whom?

 

[A Messiahite]

Was he drunk or fell of a camel and became delerious? What is the source of the Koran?

Better question is why did Muhammed have sex with a watermellon: http://arabic.islamicweb.com/Books/Taimiya.asp?book=64&id=888

 

[Arthra]

I notice a lot of remarks here in this thread that are insulting and degrading to Prophet Muhammad and to religion... Throwing insults around weakens respect people have for all religion and is very sad in this day and age.

- Art

 

[nasir_abdus-salam]

No, the Prophet, salallahu 'alayhi wa salam, was not drunk, nor did he fall off his camel. The Qur'an is the Speech of God, revealed to him through the agency of Jibreel over the course of about twenty years. He experienced the revelation in two different ways: the first form was somewhat debilitating - it would commence with what sounded like a bell, Jibreel would grasp him, applying intense pressure on his body that would weigh down anything he was on, he would fall into a deep trance and also sweat profusely. When he was relieved from these conditions, he would recite to his companions. The second form, which occured much less often, was easier on him. An incarnate Jibreel would simply sit and teach him. It was in this form that Jibreel reviewed the Qur'an with him annually, twice on the year of his death.

It's irrational for some here to expect this to be proven by Christian texts; in fact, it's just plain silly. Islam and Christianity are two different religions with two different sources.