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Using your drug example, while true whites do sell drugs more often than blacks but get arrested less often, the reason is because in many black neighborhoods there is a culture of selling drugs in the open or even on street corners where it is easy for the cops to catch them; and whites have a culture of selling their drugs in private homes to people they know making it more difficult for the cops to catch them. This is not an example of racism, it’s an example of different cultures resulting in different results.
Blacks Less Likely To Sell Drugs, Much More Likely To Be Arrested For It: Study
The disparities tend to dwindle similarly to the situation of the "gender wage gap" when the case-by-case details are examined. Case-by-case it usually turns out that the cases are not the same, and the differences are not systemic but individualistic.
The disparities tend to dwindle similarly to the situation of the "gender wage gap" when the case-by-case details are examined.
Case-by-case it usually turns out that the cases are not the same, and the differences are not systemic but individualistic.
Unfortunately studies of the outcomes AFTER ARREST show a similar bias for white offenders. Black offenders will usually have a higher rate of conviction and a harsher sentence than the white offender.
So it doesn't matter if they were slangin' on a street corner or in mommy and daddy's den, once arrested it is still systemically racist against the black offenders.
Exactly. Which is an example of why citing unnamed " studies" and vague
" findings" like " worsee ourcomes" is good if one wants to be inflammatory
with little regard to the actual situation or realistic policy change proposals.
"Studies "
Why yes, that is exactly my observation....and why people who lack even basic science skills or analytical skills can't read studies and why they say incredibly inane things.
however following the arrest black individuals had almost twice the number of sentences resulting in incarceration than whites and significantly longer sentences than whites with an average sentence being 12 months longer for black offenders.Using your drug example, while true whites do sell drugs more often than blacks but get arrested less often, the reason is because in many black neighborhoods there is a culture of selling drugs in the open or even on street corners where it is easy for the cops to catch them; and whites have a culture of selling their drugs in private homes to people they know making it more difficult for the cops to catch them. This is not an example of racism, it’s an example of different cultures resulting in different results.
Blacks Less Likely To Sell Drugs, Much More Likely To Be Arrested For It: Study
Unfortunately studies of the outcomes AFTER ARREST show a similar bias for white offenders. Black offenders will usually have a higher rate of conviction and a harsher sentence than the white offender.
So it doesn't matter if they were slangin' on a street corner or in mommy and daddy's den, once arrested it is still systemically racist against the black offenders.
Unfortunately studies of the outcomes AFTER ARREST show a similar bias for white offenders. Black offenders will usually have a higher rate of conviction and a harsher sentence than the white offender.
So it doesn't matter if they were slangin' on a street corner or in mommy and daddy's den, once arrested it is still systemically racist against the black offenders.
What is specifically systemic in how that happens?
What specific changes in the law would you make to prevent that from happening?
I provided links, Estrid. You CAN read, correct?
Maybe my problem is that I've spent the last 25-30 years as a professional research scientist. I've written studies for publication, I've analyzed data, I've run the statistics on my results.
I'm always going to prefer actual studies to whatever it is you lot like to rely on for understanding anything.
I think there is a difference here in the definition of "systemic."
The fact that a statistical signal shows up across a large number of analyses indicates there is something systemic.
Perhaps a restructuring of the limits of prosecutorial options. For example, right now a prosecutor can layer charges as a means of threatening a defendant into pleading to a charge. Often these layered charges are made up of additional charges which the prosecutor has ZERO chance of getting to stick but they can present them to the defendant as if they are a certainty and will MASSIVELY increase their prison time if convicted. Given that poor people (often black) will have less access to a good defense this is why so many plea deals are struck without a trial.
Also there are things that can be done about sentencing guidelines.
There are a large number of things that can be done mechanistically in the justice system. And that's just the justice system itself.
But that's not racial. That's class. Characterizing it as racial muddies the real issue and loses political allies that could be gained.
If you want to say it's racial, you have to filter the statistics for income levels and see if poor whites fair statistically better than blacks high income levels.
But that's not racial. That's class.
If you want to say it's racial, you have to filter the statistics for income levels and see if poor whites fair statistically better than blacks high income levels.
If so, how does it exist?
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