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What you mean is that there are a hundred websites which post the same erroneous conclusions based on pseudo history.There is an overwhelming abundance of evidence. Is your reply based on any research of your own??
You sound just like the pharisees who claimed Jesus cast out demons by Beelzebub. Hopefully you speak out of ignorance.Christmas is like the golden calf - we might think it honors God, but it really doesn’t. The Israelites thought the golden calf honored God - they even dedicated to God and were going to hold a celebration to God with it - but it was abominable and God did not accept it.
Celebrating a pagan feast such as Christmas, and trying to worship God with it it, is just as bad as building a golden calf and trying to worship God with it.
Christmas and Easter are about Satan, not God and Jesus. They are satanic pagan holidays that venerate the devil, and many people have been misled into thinking that these demonic holidays honor God. Not so.
The holy days in the Bible, listed in Leviticus 23, have to do with God & Jesus and the plan of God’s salvation through the Messiah, not the pagan holidays of Easter & Christmas.
There are plenty of threads on this forum where those claims have been thoroughly debunked.Easter also has some hijacked pagan rituals attached to it. I knew that both Christmas and Easter had some pagan origins attached to them but I never really looked into it in detail until I started reading this thread. I have to say that I'm astonished about what I've learned about these pagan origins.
Nail on the head and there is even a Lutheran Satire video which addresses this. It’s very good.I dont think many Christians even know what they are truly celebrating on Christmas now.
Its not the birth of Christ, if it is, they are making a total mockery of his birth.
The day has now turned in a commercial retail holiday, in which Santa Claus is greater than Jesus and these same merchants that dont care and probably dont even believe in Jesus have no problem selling Christians all sorts of junk, making them rich, and sending them into debt they will probably be paying off til the next Xmas, and all this sales on on the basis of a lie of Jesus birthday being Dec 25th.
Merry Christmas will probably offend or get a person almost fired from their job, and a nativity scene is almost pretty much a no now adays.
Christmas trees, Elves, reindeer, a fat man going down your chimney, mistletoe, and yule logs have zero to do with Christ and are all based on Pagan sungod worship, yet many Christians that claim the day is about Jesus for them, all have some or all of these symbols as part of their Christmas celebration.
Starting to think God probably hates our modern day Christmas.
Joining you in feeling that pain too!There are plenty of threads on this forum where those claims have been thoroughly debunked.
I agree that is commercialized for retell.I dont think many Christians even know what they are truly celebrating on Christmas now.
Its not the birth of Christ, if it is, they are making a total mockery of his birth.
The day has now turned in a commercial retail holiday, in which Santa Claus is greater than Jesus and these same merchants that dont care and probably dont even believe in Jesus have no problem selling Christians all sorts of junk, making them rich, and sending them into debt they will probably be paying off til the next Xmas, and all this sales on on the basis of a lie of Jesus birthday being Dec 25th.
Merry Christmas will probably offend or get a person almost fired from their job, and a nativity scene is almost pretty much a no now adays.
Christmas trees, Elves, reindeer, a fat man going down your chimney, mistletoe, and yule logs have zero to do with Christ and are all based on Pagan sungod worship, yet many Christians that claim the day is about Jesus for them, all have some or all of these symbols as part of their Christmas celebration.
Starting to think God probably hates our modern day Christmas.
What are other ways of the nations....I did my own research on the origins of Christmas after reading the comments mentioning the pagan origins. I found a couple of interesting articles that mention the history of Christmas and its origianl pagan origins. A couple of the articles I found are History of Christmas and Pagan Roots? 5 Surprising Facts About Christmas. I'm not including the articles that are from Evangelical Christian based sites because of course these sites would defend celebrating Christmas for dear life and they wouldn't be objective. I also found this meme that I thought I would share since it has a specific verse on it.
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Hardly... the Israelite's worshiped the golden calf because they thought Moses was not coming back... The golden calf had no attachment or significant connection to the God of Israel. Totally unrelated.Christmas is like the golden calf - we might think it honors God, but it really doesn’t. The Israelite's thought the golden calf honored God - they even dedicated to God and were going to hold a celebration to God with it - but it was abominable and God did not accept it.
Are you sure? I don't think that celebrating the birth of Christ, or partaking in the last supper (communion) in remembrance of when Satan was defeated... go over very well with him.Christmas and Easter are about Satan, not God and Jesus.
They are satanic pagan holidays that venerate the devil, and many people have been misled into thinking that these demonic holidays honor God. Not so.
Again... you better start making Saturday your sabbath.... lest you break your rigid legalistic rules.The holy days in the Bible, listed in Leviticus 23, have to do with God & Jesus and the plan of God’s salvation through the Messiah, not the pagan holidays of Easter & Christmas.
What I find hypocritical is not Christians setting aside certain days to worship and remember pointed events in our history as they relate to our Savior...Sadly, the Christian Christmas is just as fiercely defended and faithfully guarded as the perpetual lie many Christian parents tell their impressionable children that Santa Claus really does exist. I guess it's perfectly acceptable for Christians to just slap a Christian label on any non-Christian holiday they want to celebrate and the holiday will instantly become a Christian holiday. Take your pick. It could be a Pagan holiday or a Jewish holiday or a secular holiday because apparently it doesn't really matter.
I guess Christians could make any holiday from any religion a Christian holiday if they reworked it and refashioned it into the image of the Christian religion and attached Christ's name to it.
What we believe and the day that others think we should celebrate these events on... is two separate issues.Celsus, a 2nd century pagan apologist, in speaking of Christianity wrote "Are our [pagan] beliefs to be accounted myths and theirs [Christians] believed? What reasons do the Christians give for the distinctiveness of their beliefs? In truth, there is nothing at all unusual about what the Christians believe."
Tell me what "Pagan rituals" are attached to Easter. Other than a pagan holiday and a Christian holiday were combined to make one common day.... I see nothing in the celebration and ceremonies at my church, or any of the churches that I have attended, that give one sniff of a hint of being connected to "pagan" rituals.Easter also has some hijacked pagan rituals attached to it. I knew that both Christmas and Easter had some pagan origins attached to them but I never really looked into it in detail until I started reading this thread. I have to say that I'm astonished about what I've learned about these pagan origins.
So, pick another day and celebrate it then... if it bothers you that much..Yes Easter has its pagan roots, not to mention Halloween of course as many churches provide an Halloween alternative buy yet still recognize the holiday and participate in it. The Christian church by and large tends to accommodate pagan practices instead of avoiding them. God has his calendar where in the OT he commanded his people to observe certain times and season and celebrate certain festivals. Satan copies the same thing as he has his calendar where his followers observe certain times/seasons especially during the solstice and equinox dates. The church no longer follows God's calendar but adopts Satan's.
It's only a "problem" if you dwell on it and make it so.You are correct in that the church did not want to upstage the pagan celebrations. However the problem is that it amounts to accommodation instead of being the light in the midst of darkness; allows the leaven to mixed in. That is called sycretism which the Roman Catholic Church is famous for. It results in a tepid church and a watered down gospel. The historical record is that the early church Fathers never celebrated Jesus' birth. The Puritans in New England were against Christmas which resulted in it being banned in Boston from 1659 - 1681 as they considered Christmas as an unholy pagan ritual. Even Charles Spurgeon did not look favorably on celebrating Christmas. Now days both Catholics and Protestants celebrate Christmas despite its pagan roots. You can decorate the tree (pun intended) to look differently, but its roots remain intact.
Many may not know... who's fault is that? Not mine... my family knows and they celebrate the day due to biblical truth.Nail on the head and there is even a Lutheran Satire video which addresses this. It’s very good.
You really make a great point here. It is the pagans and haters of all things Christ who rail against any Christian observance.Many may not know... who's fault is that? Not mine... my family knows and they celebrate the day due to biblical truth.
If others do not know... it is a failure of ours who should tell them.
Ever wonder why it became politically incorrect to say "Merry Christmas" in Canada and the US?.... I'll tell you that it wasn't because it honored Satan.. Nor was it because it coincided with a Pagan holiday....
NO... it was because it presented the biblical fact that is celebration of the virgin birth of our savior... It marked the beginning of Satan's defeat... That's why.
Now Satan wants to get Christians to believe that it is wrong to celebrate these days........ why are we so gullible to his deceitful ways.
That is ludicrous. Did God or Jesus ever command us to "compete against them?" Instead we are commanded to abstain and refuse to recognize/participate in their celebrations. Just where in the OT did God command the Israelites to compete against their pagan enemies' celebrations? You won't find it. Instead God instructed the Israelites to observe God's own holy days according to His calendar - not Satan's calendar.I said that the church did mean to upstage the pagan celebrations. Or perhaps we should say compete against them.
This, if understood, completely wipes out the theory you expounded about the church supposedly accommodating the pagan celebrations, etc., which if true would mean to do the exact opposite thing.
Christmas is like the golden calf - we might think it honors God, but it really doesn’t.
websites, books, literature, videos, sermons, etc. etc. - take your pickWhat you mean is that there are a hundred websites which post the same erroneous conclusions based on pseudo history.
You are free to do as you please. I don't really care.So, pick another day and celebrate it then... if it bothers you that much..
As for me.. I'll stick with all the other Christians, celebrating Christ on days that we have indicated to do so...
There is not one hint, sniff, whiff or drop of any respect, honor or credit to Satan on these days. And.... he knows it.
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