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You know how all the statistics are forever making Mississippi out to be losers. Well, guess what we came out on top in this week? We're fatter than everyone else. PapaBear heard that on the radio yesterday. First in the nation for obesity. I said that's because we know how to have a good time. We're not like all these anorexic Yankees who can't eat cake at their own weddings, "Becuz I'm watching my weight, thank you." (In a nasal tone.) I'll just take a little of that clear water."

But who would want to trade places with the skinny minnies who never heard of fried chicken, fried okra, fried catfish and fried hushpuppies that every food bar in the state that's worth its salt serves? Or who would want to go for very long without mustard and turnip greens with salt pork and cornbread? Not me. I don't know what folks eat in the skinny states but I know one thing, it can't be good.
 
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BeautyForAshes said:
Well, look at it this way....you gotta be number one in something..^_^ I thought everone knew that we M'sippians have always had some meat on our bones.

But seriously, Mama bear you making me hungry. :)

All I have left over from supper is a small bowlful of limas, but you're welcome to them.

Do you know the most memorable meal I've ever eaten? It has to have been over 20 years ago that I was treated to that meal. I can still remember the smells of that woman's kitchen, the way she arranged the food on my plate and exactly how everything tasted. It was a plate of mustard greens and a cornbread muffin, a fried chicken breast and a canned peach half (served in a small dessert dish) all carefully arranged on a white porcelain dinner plate, with a glass of iced tea. The cook was an elderly black woman who invited me to stay to lunch one day when I just happened to drop in at her place for a few minutes. I have never regretted having taken the time to do that. She was the most delightful person I have ever met and cooked the most fantastic lunch I've ever had, both before or since. I will never forget that lunch. I asked her how she made such wonderful greens.

She said, "Start cooking a chicken early in the day and when it's finished take it out of the kettle and put your greens in. Cook them for several hours or all day if you want to. The longer the better."

To this day that is exactly the way I cook greens. I have made them my signature potluck dish and if I happen to not bring them someone will be sure to ask why I didn't. I always tell people I learned how to cook greens from a wonderful black woman who knew how to cook them better than anyone I've ever met. I feel as though I have a leg up just because I was taught how to cook greens by that lady. So when someone asks you to stay to lunch and you think you don't have time, by all means, take the time! I doubt whether you'll ever regret it, and you just might remember that meal for the rest of your life. You never know.

(Of course, that woman has lived in Mississippi all her life. She learned how to cook from her Mississippi mama and now she taught a Mississippi girl how to cook greens. Ain't I a lucky girl!!!!:angel: )

 
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mamabear4 said:
It was a plate of mustard greens and a cornbread muffin, a fried chicken breast and a canned peach half (served in a small dessert dish) all carefully arranged on a white porcelain dinner plate, with a glass of iced tea.




Sounds like the perfect meal to me..... well ...add fresh butterbeans (only the speckled kind ,lol ) , too, please :) :yum:
I moved up here in April, and I told my hubby next time we go see my parents in Corinth..... I HAVE to have some fish & hushpuppies !!!!! So far, out here, all I've found is shrimp and nothing I really want lol
 
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Hi Y'all! Grenada County here from lil town called Holcomb-that's pronounced Haw-cum! It's so small if you sneeze you'll miss it! I love living out here with the small town charm, where everybody knows everybody and are kinned somehow. Wouldn't live anywhere else!!
 
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Sunday evening, August 28, 2005:

The hurricane's almost here and it looks like it'll be a bad one. Let's join hands and say the Twenty-third Psalm, paraphrased for Mississippi:

The Lord is our Shepherd, from Lamar and Hancock counties to Noxubee, Lowndes and Monroe counties and everywhere in between that Hurricane Katrina strikes in the next 24 hours. We know that He will turn our waves of trouble and sorrow, literal hurricane force winds and waves, into still waters just for us. And when the winds pass and the sun returns we know that because of the great benevolent spirit that exists among most Mississippians we will give and recieve assistance to rebuild again, to mop up the water, wash away the mud and be better neighbors because of it. We have no want for His Rod and Staff comfort us during this terrified walk through the valley of the shadow of death - His peace that passeth all understanding. We will experience an annointment of Your healing oil on all who may be injured or who may lose loved ones in the storm. And even though we may feel as though the world has crashed around us by Tuesday, we know that our Great Shepherd has actually filled our cups to overflowing with love, goodness, uncommon grace and strength. Our faith will be strengthened as we gather around His table that is loaded with many, many spiritual benefits and we will dwell in the house of the Lord forever and ever and ever....and ever....and ever.
 
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STARINELSON said:
My prayers are with everyone connected with Katrina; especially my homestate : Mississippi. God be with you all in EVERY situation that may arise.
May He hold you in His hands through it all.

*Joining Starinelson in prayer *:prayer:
 
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I"m not sure when this email by Mark Flemmings was written, but I didn't get it until this morning. I suspect it was written about a week ago, but not sure. I thought it was worth passing on to every Mississippian and every wannabe-Mississippian. -- mamabear

>Mark Flemmings works for Modern Communications in Cleveland, Ms, and is working down on the coast in the recovery. This is the story from his eyes.
( A little long but well worth the read ) Makes you appreciate what you have!

WELCOME TO MISSISSIPPI

O.K. I'll make an attempt to tell what's going on down here right now. It's
hard to do for several reasons. First, because there is so much , it's hard
to talk about. Let's try to focus on the positive.

You're right to be sick about New Orleans. They've turned into a bunch of
animals over there. The idiots are shooting at the people who are trying to
help them???? I think for the most part it's due to the frustration caused
by the lack of response by their State Government....I mean, an SOS call?
Give me a break.

Everybody is so focused on what's going on in the Superdome, the Mississippi story is going un-reported. It's one of the bright things that are happening here now.

We are NOT leaving our people to wallow and starve in their own filth ,and
the cadavers of loved ones. We're finding the live ones and getting them
north as fast a possible. Most of the hundreds showing up here have at
least had a meal and a bath.

Haley Barbour the Governor and his administration will come out as true
heroes in this disaster once the total story is told. The differences
between the Louisiana and Mississippi responses are truly startling.

Haley and FEMA had already had Mississippi declared disaster areas TWO DAYS before Katrina hit......What does that mean? A lot........It means we had a two day head start on recovery. It means we had pre-positioned response teams...FULLY EQUIPPED ! It means we already had supplies being loaded on trucks to go to the coast while the hurricane was still going on. It means Federal representatives from FEMA were already IN State when it hit. Which means somebody on the Satellite Phone moving troops and aid our way while Louisiana was still trying to get ....... .

We have been dealing with looters a little differently on the coast. Once
you shoot a few and leave their bodies laying in front of the store with
their arms full of booty, the rest get the idea pretty quickly. Hasn't been
a big problem. In the case of breaking in to get survival supplies...food
and water. The police have shot the locks off the doors and helped take the
stuff to distribution points.

School buses to haul refugees to shelters north, an idea Louisiana JUST
figured out by the way, have been running shuttle since Wednesday
morning.They are pouring in here by the hundreds. Red Cross has been doing
a GREAT job on setting up relief shelters in our area.

The local Governments have opened all of the convention centers and school
auditoriums to them. I know it's hard to believe, but the local Friday
night Football games have ALL been canceled this week. Our efforts are
going elsewhere this weekend.

My daughter is the editor for the local University newspaper. She asked me
what she could do for these folks, and I told her "The main thing they need
right now is bottled water". So she made a few phone calls and set it up
with her newspaper and the local T.V. stations....in 24 hours they had
collected over 600 gallons. This story is typical and is happening all over
this part of the state.

Pulpwood haulers (lumberjacks to you Yankees) who showed up at Interstates and main feeder hi-ways heading south, started cutting up the downed trees
with their own chainsaws, and loading them up with their hydraulic boom
hauling trucks. Opening the way south for our relief effort...nobody called
them....they just showed up and started doing what had to be done.

Welcome to Mississippi

The local churches are jumping in too. Emmanuel Baptist has been cooking
and serving three meals a day for 1500 people at the shelter there since
Wednesday. Where is the food coming from? Strangers are just showing up at the convention center and dropping it off. Red Cross is providing some of
it, but the majority is just showing up....from people who aren't seeking
and never will be recognized. It's happening all over the state - again and
again.

Welcome to Mississippi

Our local hotels are full of people here from New Orleans.....most are
starting to run out of money, so we have begun collecting for their hotel
bills and providing them with meals at the shelters. Quite a few in town
have taken them in to their own homes...knowing they may be there for
months. I filled up one guy's tank at the gas station Tuesday because he
only had enough money for a few gallons.

Welcome to Mississippi

Just stopped and put an antenna on one of our E.O.C. trucks headed south to Ocean Springs. They're headed down to do a fuel supply run. While here, my
daughter came in with another 300 gallons of bottled water, asking where
she could store it. I said" How 'bout the back of this truck?" :))) This is
how it works, over and over and over ..........

Sorry if this E-mail seems a little jumpy, I've been adding to it all day as I get a minute and as thoughts occur to me. Things are happening all around me, and it's hard to sort it all out while "in the moment". I think that's the way this story will be told.....later. It's going to take a while.

While I'm thinking about it.....BIG thank you to Motorola. I'm almost as
proud of being a Motorolan as I am a Mississippian. You guys may not know
about it yet, but Motorola has put on a Herculean support effort. I was
involved on the fringes for a while, but the effort to send radios and infrastructure has been nothing short of phenomenal!

My guys on the coast called with a SEVERE need for repeaters and W.T's.
They had a few towers and antennas still standing, but the repeaters were
in about three feet of water. After a few phone calls around the campus
there in Schaumburg, I was given the Bridge call number for the emergency
request line. Made a call back to my guys and passed it on.

I'll be sheep dipped if Motorola didn't have equipment THERE the NEXT
DAY!!!!!!HOT DANG!!! That's the way you do it.:)))

Mississippians have loooong memories. This one will NOT be forgotten.
Anybody see Jim Geary up there....kiss him for me. Lord knows Iwon't.:)))
And anybody else that you know was involved in Motorola's support effort.
Tell them Mississippi gives a heartfelt "God Bless You."'

Most of us cry at least once a day. You can't deal with the hundreds we
have coming in here everyday and not be affected. I've seen big bears break
down and just fall apart. Mostly blaming themselves for not getting out in
time. That choice cost him a wife, child or in some cases both. They all
usually say the same things. "I didn't think it would get that bad." All you can do is listen and try to comfort. Sometimes you see guys just staring into the sunset....not saying anything....but you see those jaw muscles working hard to hold it in.

I had one tell me yesterday "We had to choose - stay in the attic and drown
or climb on the roof into a 150 mile an hour wind. She was screaming my
name as she flew away." How do you respond to that? You don't.....you just
cry with him and listen....

Loose children who don't know where Mamma or Daddy are, or even if they're
alive. Ten year olds, trying to be "mama" or "daddy" to a little sister or
brother......it will tear your heart out. Most also know there is NOTHING
to go home to. The house is gone, and in most cases the job too. They show
up here with the clothes on their back, and that's it. It's all they have
left. It's hard, just too hard for words.................you do what you
can, but..........

We've opened our Homes,Hearts and wallets to strangers in need. We don't
care if they're White, Black, Brown or Polka-dotted. We're going to be O.K.
It will take years, but we're dealing with it. We will deal with it the way
only a true southerner can...one day at a time. We're out of gasoline
today. All the local stations have run out.

My phones are still acting squirrelly on out of state calls and my cell
phone has been a paper weight since Tuesday. But I did sleep in my own bed
last night and took a hot shower this morning. There is food in my house,
and I know where all my family is. You take these things for granted, until they're gone.......

Forward as you see fit....

Mark Flemmons
Modern Communications
Cleveland, Mississippi.

 
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I've seen so much graciousness, kindness and mercy in the last few weeks, it is just amazing. There's been help from all over the country, even foreign volunteering and working to help clean-up to helping us manage to get by. So much despair, yet so much care.
 
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Did anyone have any problems with the tornados passing through Mississippi on Sunday? My street is a mess and I'm the only one who doesn't have significant damage. My neighbor is staying with me as his roof got blown off. Hope everyone is ok.
 
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Biloxi/Gulfport was hardest hit along Hwy 90 and the avenues that water could approach (via the storm surge). So, whether by river, back bay or something connected to the immediate shore, the surge was around 30 feet. So, places that didn't flood from Camelle, did this time (over the R&R tracks). For the most part north of the tracks, its generally all roof damage (probably 90%) well north of I-10... There were plenty of roofs damaged and ceilings falling in around Hattiesburg and Laurel.

So, if you know this place very well, you might recognize this: http://img3.buzznet.com/assets/categories9/sunherald/gallery-msg-1127553681-2.jpg <-- Gulfport harbor (Marine Life)

It will be a long time before everything will be back to what will become normal.
 
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Niemand3D said:
Biloxi/Gulfport was hardest hit along Hwy 90 and the avenues that water could approach (via the storm surge). So, whether by river, back bay or something connected to the immediate shore, the surge was around 30 feet. So, places that didn't flood from Camelle, did this time (over the R&R tracks). For the most part north of the tracks, its generally all roof damage (probably 90%) well north of I-10... There were plenty of roofs damaged and ceilings falling in around Hattiesburg and Laurel.

So, if you know this place very well, you might recognize this: http://img3.buzznet.com/assets/categories9/sunherald/gallery-msg-1127553681-2.jpg <-- Gulfport harbor (Marine Life)

It will be a long time before everything will be back to what will become normal.
The destruction is truly heartbreaking, but the human suffering is even more so. Y'all have been so brave and strong through it all. The folks that have come into our communnity from the coast are so accepting of their situation and that has been such an inspiration. They have humbled me and reminded me of my blessings. Please be reminded that our prayers have been with y'all down at the coast. :groupray:

 
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I'm so sorry to see the casinos moved on land. From the governor to the gaming businessmen to some of our elected officials, grandiose claims of revenues generated by the casinos will make for a "better Mississippi." But with all the grand figures they've cited to justify the business, I've yet to hear the slightest consideration given for the fact that the casinos' profits are the gamblers losses? I fail to understand why gambling is "good for the state" while everyone knows it's robbing the people who participate, and many times they are the people who have so little already. Gambling is a blight upon society, in my opinion. And I fail to foresee good things coming from it in our fair state. In my opinion, this week's a sad week for Mississippi.
 
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To be honest I think the only thing wrong with gambling are those that do it irresponsibly. If you go in to there with any intention other than just playing a game and you have your house payment in your pocket to play the game then you're irresponsible. And it doing so you have sinned.
It's really nothing new though. The choctaws are allowed to have casinos on their land. You can go up there and get a free buffet if you sign up for a players card.

I think as long as the bible doesn't outright call something sin then as long as you are responsible it's ok. Like for example the consumtion of alchohol. Many christians find this to be wrong and for them it is. But Jesus drank wine all the time. His first miracle was turning water in to wine. And Jesus never sinned so the mere consumption is obviously not a sin. But it's when you drink too much and get drunk that it becomes wrong because the bible does say do not get drunk with wine. Moderation and being responsible can be the difference in many cases between sin and no sin. And to know you can't be responsible in a certain situation and to enter in it anyway it is sin, because to know you are doing wrong and to do it anyway is sin. Not a very popular point of view for alot of christians. But I think it's true.

However, with that being said. I'd be interested to see what the people of Mississippi want. I think it should be their decision. Decisions like this should be put to a vote. Lawmakers decide too much for the people nowdays I think.
 
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mamabear4 said:
I fail to understand why gambling is "good for the state" while everyone knows it's robbing the people who participate, and many times they are the people who have so little already. Gambling is a blight upon society, in my opinion. And I fail to foresee good things coming from it in our fair state. In my opinion, this week's a sad week for Mississippi.

Perhaps I could shed some tainted light on this subject. When you considered the amount touted to be the daily income of tax revenue alone ($.5 million/day), that adds up fast for say 5 weeks now that they've been out of service? Why, that's changed their entire budget that was passed based on their tax revenues. This tax that was supposedly going to be to benefit the education system and other 'hot' agendas has now become a leg that the legislature/state gov't does not know how to walk without.


Supposedly, none of this tax money was to go to peoples salaries... I wish I could see how all of it was used, but knowing state agencies (since I once worked for one) they just get around this by hiring people on contract. Well, this income of the state now has the state spending of their budget, which is no longer being channeled into their bank account to spend.


Like an alcoholic, the state doesn't know how to live without it anymore. This is only a small example, but just think how much more the people in the community have come to rely on this form of entertainment... that in exchange has more losers than winners*. The winners are the casinos because if the casinos weren't making money, they wouldn't be in business. And, that's not to say anything about how reliant the community has become on the 10,000+ jobs the casinos employ here on the coast.


Have you ever noticed that there are no statistics of the change in personal bankrupcy (gone up in the last 14 years), bank robberies, theft, social welfare, and maybe even the divorce rates. Gambling isn't evil, its just plan irresponsible, imho. It promotes the deterioration of morality as I see it. So, its a constant battle to educate the masses of the consequences, but I can only be responsibile of myself and the actions I've influenced.

*casinos can only be the overall winners (and those that hold their stock)
 
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SuperNova said:
I think as long as the bible doesn't outright call something sin then as long as you are responsible it's ok. Like for example the consumtion of alchohol. Many christians find this to be wrong and for them it is. But Jesus drank wine all the time. His first miracle was turning water in to wine. And Jesus never sinned so the mere consumption is obviously not a sin. But it's when you drink too much and get drunk that it becomes wrong because the bible does say do not get drunk with wine. Moderation and being responsible can be the difference in many cases between sin and no sin. And to know you can't be responsible in a certain situation and to enter in it anyway it is sin, because to know you are doing wrong and to do it anyway is sin. Not a very popular point of view for alot of christians. But I think it's true.

Scripture does tell us to be sober and sober-minded (1 Thes. 5:6; Titus 1:8; Titus 2:8; 1 Peter 1:13; 1 Peter 5:8 and more).

I'm not going to debate drinking alcohol, but being sober is quite evident. One of the most failing Christian attributes today is "self-control", I'm saddened to say. In your rationale to be involved with gambling, I am unable to understand where your witness comes into play. Those that you know or don't know see you mixing in the crowd of those that are irresponsible (whether drinking, losing all their money, picking up a one-nite stand at a bar there, or just wasting your time there... there won't be any distinction between the responsible and the irresponsible. Is integrity something worthy of considering in this regard? I believe so.

What does your pastor think?
 
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