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Misogyny is disgusting

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by Brightmoon, Nov 7, 2019.

  1. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Many small companies simply aren't able to provide this service. That's why such proposals are only applied to companies with lots of employees and deep pockets.

    I deal with a machining company that has only one employee. If he goes on family leave the company shuts down.
     
  2. Paidiske

    Paidiske Clara bonam audax Supporter

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    If men are so horrified at women leading, shouldn't the men stay home to care for the children, then? This whole argument is ridiculous.

    As to the "impossibility" of maternity leave, again, I live in a country where every employee has the right to a year's (unpaid) maternity leave. It works just fine; often contracts to cover maternity leave are the opportunity someone else has been waiting for.
     
  3. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Men aren't 'horrified'.

    Kudos to Australia.
     
  4. Paidiske

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    There's still all this carry-on about how terrible daycare is, and its "iron grip on our kids minds."

    The point being, we've debunked the argument that it can't work. It can and does.
     
  5. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Saying something is obvious is a telltale sign you aren't willing to consider the other perspectives, essentially assuming your perception is accurate without question
     
  6. Lazarus Long

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    There is still a cohort of men who are afraid of confident, resourceful, independent women. They were indoctrinated with the idea that men are superior and to have that challenged by "women" is beyond their capacity to cope, this cohort is shrinking rapidly and that is just as frightening to them and it's why they have become more vocal, they are trying desperately to assemble as strong a rear guard as they can before they are overrun by people who eschew their indoctrination. In civilised countries their war is lost but they are desperately fighting a futile rear guard action, the result in America is still of concern to civilised countries.
     
  7. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    There are exceptions of course, but most problems have simple solutions.
     
  8. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Not when the simple notion reduces things to one factor rather than how interconnected things can and even are demonstrated to be. Trying to fix the economy is not going to be that easy anymore than trying to find clean energy
     
  9. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Identifying solutions is easy. Implementing them is the hard part.

    The solution to the energy problem is conservation first. Stop filling the air with wasted energy byproducts. Once we do this we can move on to developing cleaner sources.

    The economy, by it's very nature, cannot be 'fixed'.

    We don't really have technical problems. We have people problems, which of course is central to solving, or not solving, our problems.

    Many problems will not be solved, because few care enough about them.

    At the end of the day each individual deals with the problems that face them personally.

    That said most of our larger problems are just the collective result of individual actions, or inactions. Which of course begs the question: What is the responsibility of the individual?
     
  10. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    An individual is necessarily part of a collective to some degree, the 2 aspects cannot be separated fundamentally from each other, but viewed holistically
     
  11. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    Littering is a good example of a collective problem caused by individuals.
     
  12. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    Pollution in general is such a problem and yet still hasn't seemingly been addressed over decades of trying to solve it in one form or another
     
  13. OldWiseGuy

    OldWiseGuy Wake me when it's soup. Supporter

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    I think it's a question of mental development.

    I once had a part time maintenance job in an apartment building occupied by grad students. I got a call about a troublesome toilet. Our city water is very hard, and the toilet was suffering from a buildup of mineral residue that prevented it from flushing properly. As I labored to remedy the problem the tenant, with whom I was conversing as I worked, suddenly said, "I can't see you doing this". Meaning that he couldn't understand why a well-spoken person like me would 'stoop' to cleaning toilets.

    Of course I was taken aback and didn't have a response. But the thought occurred to me later that this fellow also couldn't see himself cleaning his own toilet so that it would function properly. I wondered what other 'distasteful' jobs were beneath this fellow.
     
  14. Thomas White

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    I know this post is old, but as I read through the pages, I could not stop thinking about it. Rap, as a whole, is not sinful. Please see the example below:

     
  15. muichimotsu

    muichimotsu I Spit On Perfection

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    I wouldn't characterize people as seeing themselves as below it, but not really interested in learning something that technical in nature usually
     
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