Misogyny is disgusting

[OldWiseGuy]

Problems that can be solved if we are prepared to adopt the notion that the the ultimate function of a business should be to benefit all stakeholders and that certainly includes the workers. It may raise the costs and prices of that business, but adds to the well being of the society.

Many small companies simply aren't able to provide this service. That's why such proposals are only applied to companies with lots of employees and deep pockets.

I deal with a machining company that has only one employee. If he goes on family leave the company shuts down.

 

[Paidiske]

Care and custody is the leadership role, whether they are aware of it or not.

If men are so horrified at women leading, shouldn't the men stay home to care for the children, then? This whole argument is ridiculous.

As to the "impossibility" of maternity leave, again, I live in a country where every employee has the right to a year's (unpaid) maternity leave. It works just fine; often contracts to cover maternity leave are the opportunity someone else has been waiting for.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

If men are so horrified at women leading, shouldn't the men stay home to care for the children, then? This whole argument is ridiculous.

Men aren't 'horrified'.

As to the "impossibility" of maternity leave, again, I live in a country where every employee has the right to a year's (unpaid) maternity leave. It works just fine; often contracts to cover maternity leave are the opportunity someone else has been waiting for.

Kudos to Australia.

 

[Paidiske]

Men aren't 'horrified'.

There's still all this carry-on about how terrible daycare is, and its "iron grip on our kids minds."

Kudos to Australia.

The point being, we've debunked the argument that it can't work. It can and does.

 

[muichimotsu]

Most problems have obvious solutions and thus don't require a broad range of perspectives.

Saying something is obvious is a telltale sign you aren't willing to consider the other perspectives, essentially assuming your perception is accurate without question

 

[Lazarus Long]

There's still all this carry-on about how terrible daycare is, and its "iron grip on our kids minds."



The point being, we've debunked the argument that it can't work. It can and does.

There is still a cohort of men who are afraid of confident, resourceful, independent women. They were indoctrinated with the idea that men are superior and to have that challenged by "women" is beyond their capacity to cope, this cohort is shrinking rapidly and that is just as frightening to them and it's why they have become more vocal, they are trying desperately to assemble as strong a rear guard as they can before they are overrun by people who eschew their indoctrination. In civilised countries their war is lost but they are desperately fighting a futile rear guard action, the result in America is still of concern to civilised countries.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Saying something is obvious is a telltale sign you aren't willing to consider the other perspectives, essentially assuming your perception is accurate without question

There are exceptions of course, but most problems have simple solutions.

 

[muichimotsu]

There are exceptions of course, but most problems have simple solutions.

Not when the simple notion reduces things to one factor rather than how interconnected things can and even are demonstrated to be. Trying to fix the economy is not going to be that easy anymore than trying to find clean energy

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Not when the simple notion reduces things to one factor rather than how interconnected things can and even are demonstrated to be. Trying to fix the economy is not going to be that easy anymore than trying to find clean energy

Identifying solutions is easy. Implementing them is the hard part.

The solution to the energy problem is conservation first. Stop filling the air with wasted energy byproducts. Once we do this we can move on to developing cleaner sources.

The economy, by it's very nature, cannot be 'fixed'.

We don't really have technical problems. We have people problems, which of course is central to solving, or not solving, our problems.

Many problems will not be solved, because few care enough about them.

At the end of the day each individual deals with the problems that face them personally.

That said most of our larger problems are just the collective result of individual actions, or inactions. Which of course begs the question: What is the responsibility of the individual?

 

[muichimotsu]

Identifying solutions is easy. Implementing them is the hard part.

The solution to the energy problem is conservation first. Stop filling the air with wasted energy byproducts. Once we do this we can move on to developing cleaner sources.

The economy, by it's very nature, cannot be 'fixed'.

We don't really have technical problems. We have people problems, which of course is central to solving, or not solving, our problems.

Many problems will not be solved, because few care enough about them.

At the end of the day each individual deals with the problems that face them personally.

That said most of our larger problems are just the collective result of individual actions, or inactions. Which of course begs the question: What is the responsibility of the individual?

An individual is necessarily part of a collective to some degree, the 2 aspects cannot be separated fundamentally from each other, but viewed holistically

 

[OldWiseGuy]

An individual is necessarily part of a collective to some degree, the 2 aspects cannot be separated fundamentally from each other, but viewed holistically

Littering is a good example of a collective problem caused by individuals.

 

[muichimotsu]

Littering is a good example of a collective problem caused by individuals.

Pollution in general is such a problem and yet still hasn't seemingly been addressed over decades of trying to solve it in one form or another

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Pollution in general is such a problem and yet still hasn't seemingly been addressed over decades of trying to solve it in one form or another

I think it's a question of mental development.

I once had a part time maintenance job in an apartment building occupied by grad students. I got a call about a troublesome toilet. Our city water is very hard, and the toilet was suffering from a buildup of mineral residue that prevented it from flushing properly. As I labored to remedy the problem the tenant, with whom I was conversing as I worked, suddenly said, "I can't see you doing this". Meaning that he couldn't understand why a well-spoken person like me would 'stoop' to cleaning toilets.

Of course I was taken aback and didn't have a response. But the thought occurred to me later that this fellow also couldn't see himself cleaning his own toilet so that it would function properly. I wondered what other 'distasteful' jobs were beneath this fellow.

 

[Thomas White]

A lot of rap music , if not all of it, is sinful , of the flesh, of the world, not from Heaven. So like all the world, it may or may not be misogynistic, but that doesn't matter.

I know this post is old, but as I read through the pages, I could not stop thinking about it. Rap, as a whole, is not sinful. Please see the example below:

 

[muichimotsu]

I think it's a question of mental development.

I once had a part time maintenance job in an apartment building occupied by grad students. I got a call about a troublesome toilet. Our city water is very hard, and the toilet was suffering from a buildup of mineral residue that prevented it from flushing properly. As I labored to remedy the problem the tenant, with whom I was conversing as I worked, suddenly said, "I can't see you doing this". Meaning that he couldn't understand why a well-spoken person like me would 'stoop' to cleaning toilets.

Of course I was taken aback and didn't have a response. But the thought occurred to me later that this fellow also couldn't see himself cleaning his own toilet so that it would function properly. I wondered what other 'distasteful' jobs were beneath this fellow.

I wouldn't characterize people as seeing themselves as below it, but not really interested in learning something that technical in nature usually