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Psalm 90

4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night.
5Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
6In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.
7For we are consumed by thine anger, and by thy wrath are we troubled.



Interesting how the 'thousand years like a day' are 'growing' in the morning and 'cut down' in the evening because of his wrath and anger. Could this tie in with these verses at all? ;)



Revelation 20
7And when the thousand years are ***expired,*** Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


Zephaniah 3:8
5The just LORD is in the midst thereof; he will not do iniquity: every morning doth he bring his judgment to light, he faileth not; but the unjust knoweth no shame.
8Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

2 Peter 3

8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10But the day of the Lordwill come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
 
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Originally Posted by LastSeven
Zeke, I do not mean to belittle. Sometimes people are offended when I speak but please put on a thicker skin when reading my posts. When it comes to arguing theology, the harder I push, the harder people push back and that forces all of us to thoroughly examine our own beliefs. So I don't like to beat around the bush, but believe me there is no harm intended. You are my brother.
no problem...
Let's continue.

you said:
the firstfruits are JUDGED before the 1000 years end...
the second death has no bearing on them...
meaning simply that they are not Judged at Millennium's end...as the others are.


IMO this is the root of the problem right here. If you think judgment = death then everything else in Bible prophecy gets distorted. Because then you have to look for a reason why Christians are not present on judgment day, and that just leads to all kinds of things that are not supported by scripture. Again, not trying to belittle, just being up front and honest about this.

And honestly for the life of me I can't figure out why people think death and judgment are the same thing because they are clearly different words with different meanings.
Judgement day is the second death for those that do not qualify for eternity,
and Reward day for those that do.
Furthermore the Bible clearly tells us that the lake of fire is the second death. It does not say that judgment is the second death. It only says that for some people the lake of fire is the result of judgment.
i agree
If we can not agree on this one thing then it's no wonder we are miles apart. Well, maybe not miles apart. There are some things we agree on. Just can't think of any right now.
we're not that far apart

Originally Posted by LastSeven
This one's for you Zeke.

Daniel 7:22
22Until the Ancient of days came, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High; and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Judgment was given to the saints. Can this really be the second death?
nope, and i did not think that i infered that it was.

IMO the meaning of judgement in the scripture you posted
is the same as the ones that reign and rule with Christ in the Millennium...on earth....((Rev5/20))
seen also in Ez44 as the sons of the Zadok
 
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Friends, I've just had a Revelation and I am about to blow your mind.

The 5th seal souls and the 6th seal multitude are the same people. They are the martyrs. The 6th seal is the resurrection of the martyrs. The 7th seal is the period of rest, while Satan is in prison, also known as "the millennium".

The trumpets and bowls all take place after the millennium. The 5th trumpet is Satan being released from his prison.
 
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Friends, I've just had a Revelation and I am about to blow your mind.

The 5th seal souls and the 6th seal multitude are the same people. They are the martyrs. The 6th seal is the resurrection of the martyrs. The 7th seal is the period of rest, while Satan is in prison, also known as "the millennium".

The trumpets and bowls all take place after the millennium. The 5th trumpet is Satan being released from his prison.
Congratulations, LastSeven. :thumbsup:

Your eyes have opened. You've realized that there are parallel events in Revelation. Keep looking ...

... there's much more. You'll see.


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Congratulations, LastSeven. :thumbsup:

Your eyes have opened. You've realized that there are parallel events in Revelation. Keep looking ...

... there's much more. You'll see.


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I agree. The beginning to understanding Revelations is recognizing the parallelism. For example, the seven seals, the seven trumpets and the seven bowls or vials tell the same story from different perspectives.
 
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Friends, I've just had a Revelation and I am about to blow your mind.

The 5th seal souls and the 6th seal multitude are the same people. They are the martyrs. The 6th seal is the resurrection of the martyrs. The 7th seal is the period of rest, while Satan is in prison, also known as "the millennium".

The trumpets and bowls all take place after the millennium. The 5th trumpet is Satan being released from his prison.

Let us take a better look and see what is written;

Rev. 6:9-11 (KJV)
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: [10] And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? [11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Now let us look at the Great Multitude in Rev. 7:9-17 (KJV)
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; [10] And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. [11] And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, [12] Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

[13] And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? [14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. [15] Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. [16] They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. [17] For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

There is one constant in the two scriptures “white robes”.

Group 1
Let us look a little deeper… who is it that is described in Rev 6:9? “…The souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held”

Where did this group come from?
From “under the altar”.

Group 2
Who is it that is described in Rev. 7:9? “…A great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues…”

Where did this group come from?
“…These are they which came out of great tribulation…”


Now that we have defined these positions, we can clearly see that Group 2 is not the same as Group 1.


Group 1 can and most likely are part of Group 2, however Group 2 cannot be part of Group 1.


The re-requisites for being in Group 1 is being “slain for the word of God, for the testimony which they held…”

Is there any mention of this requirement for those in Group 2?
No.

It is highly probable that Group 2 is the fulfillment of this Rev.6: 11 “…until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled”

So, can ALL of Group 1 be part of Group 2?
Yes.

Can ALL of Group 2 be part of Group 1?
No.

What is written can clearly be seen and understood as long as we do not have corrupt information blocking our view.

Love,
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Psalm 90
4For a thousand years in thy sight are but as yesterday when it is past, and as a watch in the night. 5Thou carriest them away as with a flood; they are as a sleep: in the morning they are like grass which groweth up.
6In the morning it flourisheth, and groweth up; in the evening it is cut down, and withereth.
7For we are consumed by thine anger, and by thy wrath are we troubled.



Interesting how the 'thousand years like a day' are 'growing' in the morning and 'cut down' in the evening because of his wrath and anger. Could this tie in with these verses at all? ;)



Revelation 20
7And when the thousand years are ***expired,*** Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

Zephaniah 3:8
5The just LORD is in the midst thereof; he will not do iniquity: every morning doth he bring his judgment to light, he faileth not; but the unjust knoweth no shame.
8Therefore wait ye upon me, saith the LORD, until the day that I rise up to the prey: for my determination is to gather the nations, that I may assemble the kingdoms, to pour upon them mine indignation, even all my fierce anger: for all the earth shall be devoured with the fire of my jealousy.

2 Peter 3
8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10But the day of the Lordwill come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Yes mr. Ivebeenshown, I think that all these verses do tie in to describe how at the end of the six days(6000 years) many people who's ancestory had been Christians for hundrends of years, would fall asleep. There are so many people of Christian cultures who today have fallen asleep to their religion. They say "I'm not a Christian." Ah, but you are my friend. Two thousand years of Christian Culture has made us all to have a Christian outlook. I mean for those of us whose ancestry is European. It is now intrinsic in our natures and outlook whether we realize it or not.

I love how you brought up these verses showing how at the end many would be "asleep." That is why in Rev.20;7 Satan shall be loosed for a while. He will try to get those sleepers.

Like it says in 2 Pet.3;9 "the lord is not slack in his promisce pretaining to this timed event. That is why I am personally now starting to realize that the 6th day has passed with the year 2001 AD and we are in Christ's millennium today. He is not slack. And he is not a maker of confusion. But just as each of the previous 6 millenniums have proceeded and passed into the next without notice to our measly human perceptions, so too this last millennium also. As it says in Dan.12;10 that " the wise will understand."
 
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Years in the Hebrew calendar are labeled with the era designation Anno Mundi (Latin for "in the year of the world"), abbreviated AM and A.M., (Hebrew: לבריאת העולם‎), and are numbered from the epoch that, by Rabbinical reckoning, is the date of the creation of Adam. 30 September 2008 through 18 September 2009 corresponded to Hebrew year 5769; the Hebrew year 5770 began at sundown on the evening of 18 September 2009 and will end on 8 September 2010. Source(s):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_cale…

The Millennial Sabbath begins at the end of the 6,000 years since the day that we were tossed out of Eden. That is where time became a constant.

We are NOT in the 7,000th year yet.

We have anywhere between 1 second from now to 30 more years till the end of the 6,000 years is passed.

Love,
Brother Jerry
 
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I agree. The beginning to understanding Revelations is recognizing the parallelism. For example, the seven seals, the seven trumpets and the seven bowls or vials tell the same story from different perspectives.

"Tell the same story from different perspectives". Do you mean that they happen at the same time? ie, the first seal is the first trump is the first bowl?

Because if that's what you're saying then I disagree. They do have similarities, and they may have similar symbolic meanings but I think they are distinct.
 
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Let us take a better look and see what is written;

Rev. 6:9-11 (KJV)
And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: [10] And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? [11] And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

Now let us look at the Great Multitude in Rev. 7:9-17 (KJV)
After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; [10] And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. [11] And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, [12] Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honor, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

[13] And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? [14] And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. [15] Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. [16] They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. [17] For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

There is one constant in the two scriptures “white robes”.

Group 1
Let us look a little deeper… who is it that is described in Rev 6:9? “…The souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held”

Where did this group come from?
From “under the altar”.

Group 2
Who is it that is described in Rev. 7:9? “…A great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues…”

Where did this group come from?
“…These are they which came out of great tribulation…”


Now that we have defined these positions, we can clearly see that Group 2 is not the same as Group 1.


Group 1 can and most likely are part of Group 2, however Group 2 cannot be part of Group 1.


The re-requisites for being in Group 1 is being “slain for the word of God, for the testimony which they held…”

Is there any mention of this requirement for those in Group 2?
No.

It is highly probable that Group 2 is the fulfillment of this Rev.6: 11 “…until their fellow servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled”

So, can ALL of Group 1 be part of Group 2?
Yes.

Can ALL of Group 2 be part of Group 1?
No.

What is written can clearly be seen and understood as long as we do not have corrupt information blocking our view.

Love,
[FONT=&quot]Brother Jerry[/FONT]

Jerry, I think we are in agreement. When I said the 5th seal souls and the 6th seal multitude are the same people I didn't mean "completely", because I believe group 1 is a smaller group than group 2. I believe group 2 is the complete group, which includes group 1 plus a bunch more people, because as you pointed out - Rev 6:11.

It sounds like we're in agreement.
 
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Years in the Hebrew calendar are labeled with the era designation Anno Mundi (Latin for "in the year of the world"), abbreviated AM and A.M., (Hebrew: לבריאת העולם‎), and are numbered from the epoch that, by Rabbinical reckoning, is the date of the creation of Adam. 30 September 2008 through 18 September 2009 corresponded to Hebrew year 5769; the Hebrew year 5770 began at sundown on the evening of 18 September 2009 and will end on 8 September 2010. Source(s):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_cale…

The Millennial Sabbath begins at the end of the 6,000 years since the day that we were tossed out of Eden. That is where time became a constant.

We are NOT in the 7,000th year yet.

We have anywhere between 1 second from now to 30 more years till the end of the 6,000 years is passed.

Love,
Brother Jerry
well said brother!:thumbsup:
 
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"Tell the same story from different perspectives". Do you mean that they happen at the same time? ie, the first seal is the first trump is the first bowl?

Because if that's what you're saying then I disagree. They do have similarities, and they may have similar symbolic meanings but I think they are distinct.
there are certain statements made in Rev that show proof that Christ is Coming or that He has Come...

there are several...defining the tribulation for us

each of them defines the timeline for us....a little here, a little there

for example, this has not happened yet and will not until Christ returns

Rev5:13And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.

then we have another look in the 6 seals,
and the aftermath seen in Rev7's multitude


Rev7:9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

then from Rev8-11 in the trumps


Rev11:13And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven.
14The second woe is past; and, behold, the third woe cometh quickly.
15And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
16And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God,
17Saying, We give thee thanks, O LORD God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.
18And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
19And the temple of God was opened in heaven, and there was seen in his temple the ark of his testament: and there were lightnings, and voices, and thunderings, and an earthquake, and great hail.

Rev12(basically)and 13 and 14 is another....

Rev14:1And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

and Rev16 is another....

Rev16:12And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.
18And there were voices, and thunders, and lightnings; and there was a great earthquake, such as was not since men were upon the earth, so mighty an earthquake, and so great.
19And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
20And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found.
21And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every stone about the weight of a talent: and men blasphemed God because of the plague of the hail; for the plague thereof was exceeding great.

then we see His departure from heaven in Rev19

Rev19:11And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
14And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
15And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

these should all help us build a timeline for the events of the Revelation of Jesus Christ
 
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there are several...defining the tribulation for us








Rev7:9After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; ,



What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation,


Im not to good a chopping posts, but brother Zeke, if this doesnt debunk the pretrib rapture, I don't know what does.

Very nice post. AGAIN!
 
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Years in the Hebrew calendar are labeled with the era designation Anno Mundi (Latin for "in the year of the world"), abbreviated AM and A.M., (Hebrew: לבריאת העולם‎), and are numbered from the epoch that, by Rabbinical reckoning, is the date of the creation of Adam. 30 September 2008 through 18 September 2009 corresponded to Hebrew year 5769; the Hebrew year 5770 began at sundown on the evening of 18 September 2009 and will end on 8 September 2010. Source(s):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_cale…

The Millennial Sabbath begins at the end of the 6,000 years since the day that we were tossed out of Eden. That is where time became a constant.

We are NOT in the 7,000th year yet.

We have anywhere between 1 second from now to 30 more years till the end of the 6,000 years is passed.

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Brother Jerry

In Isaiah 38;8 it says "Behold, I will bring again the shadow of degrees, which are gone down in the sun dial of Ahaz, ten degrees backward. So the sun returned 10 degrees, by which degrees it had gone down."

Counting the years by the moon, as they did at that time, a year is 360 days. For this reason also a full circle was counted as 360 degrees. Therefore when God set back the sundial back by "10 degrees" then our historical time also was set back by "30 years." (1/10 of 360 is 30 years)

For this reason we have reached the end of 6000 years after Adam and Eve in the year 2000 AD.

If you believe and follow the old testament Covenant of the Hebrews then there are still another 230 or so years to go to complete a full 6000 years after Adam. But the new Covenant brought more light to us.

Jesus Christ came and the first thing that he read in the temple was Isa.61;1,2 which says "The spirit of the Lord is upon me to ........to proclaim the acceptable years of the Lord." He did this by setting the true Biblical historical date with his crucifiction and resurrection. That is what 2 Pet.3;8,9 means when it tell us that a year with God is equal to 1000. This is the same method that the wise men used in decifering to find when Jesus Christ would be born.

There is only one other place in the Holy Bible where God changes time and this is in Josh.10;13. With this event Biblical historical time was set back 500 years. Today we can therefore figure out and thereby understand Biblical timekeeping with full accuracy.
 
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After the Second Coming and judgement Jesus will reign on Earth for a thousand years and Satan will be bound for that time, then loosed for a short time. My question is a simple one: Why? If he is to lead a final rebellion, aren't those reigning with Christ in danger of falling again? Scary thought...
Sounds scriptural to me.


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Years in the Hebrew calendar are labeled with the era designation Anno Mundi (Latin for "in the year of the world"), abbreviated AM and A.M., (Hebrew: לבריאת העולם‎), and are numbered from the epoch that, by Rabbinical reckoning, is the date of the creation of Adam. 30 September 2008 through 18 September 2009 corresponded to Hebrew year 5769; the Hebrew year 5770 began at sundown on the evening of 18 September 2009 and will end on 8 September 2010. Source(s):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_cale…

The Millennial Sabbath begins at the end of the 6,000 years since the day that we were tossed out of Eden. That is where time became a constant.

We are NOT in the 7,000th year yet.

We have anywhere between 1 second from now to 30 more years till the end of the 6,000 years is passed.

Love,
Brother Jerry
As far as I know the Jewish calendar year is an estimate. There are those who say it is about 143 years off. Besides we do not have to be in the 7000 year for the Lord to return. All we have to be in close to the end of the 6000 year for the Lord to return. Our rest begins with His wedding feast. I have no idea how long it takes to gather us up, or how long it takes for us to arrive at the City of God, nor how long the Wedding will be. But He will bring in the 7000 year of rest. :clap:
 
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Because those in Christ will have been foretold of it and will have seen it coming. Only those who were in allegiance to Satan beforehand will remain so. Read the last 8 or 9 chapters of Ezekiel, which is solely about the millennial period. Satan still believes for what ever reason, that he will prevail. He is winning now, but then he will not have the powers he has now.
 
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