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Millenial reign question...

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After the Second Coming and judgement Jesus will reign on Earth for a thousand years and Satan will be bound for that time, then loosed for a short time.

My question is a simple one: Why? If he is to lead a final rebellion, aren't those reigning with Christ in danger of falling again? Scary thought...

There are two kinds of people during the millenium...the mortal and the immortal. The immortal, glorified church can no longer die. There will be death of mortals during the millenium, because the Bible says so, specifically in Isaiah and also in Revelation where is says that death is the last to be thrown into the lake of fire at the GWT judgment after the millenium.

Those who are deceived when the devil is loosed at end of millenium will be mortals. Then there will be a resurrection and judgment of the just and unjust to receive their reward or punishment for eternity.


Isa 65:20"Never again will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, or an old man who does not live out his years; he who dies at a hundred will be thought a mere youth; he who fails to reach a hundred will be considered accursed.

Rev 20:14Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death.
 
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Satan has been loosed now, He has deceived the nations again. We are in that last little season. that started at the end of the 1000 yrs

3And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up
, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

He is loose !
oh I see...

we disagree...I think he is bound in heaven physically today,
not actually walking to and fro on earth like he did in Job
and when he tempted Christ.

after the tempation of Christ, I believe he was bound in heaven
but he is not bound spiritually...
hence the posessions of Peter and Judas
and the state of world affairs today

Rev12 more than suggests to me that he will be cast down here physically though...
for his short season, which was shortened for the elect's sake
to IMO the 5 months of Rev9

so no more posessions in the hour of temptation,
but he will be here himself playing the role of false prophet (antiChrist) himself...defacto, as Rev12/13 details...

a supernatural angelic being, with supernatural angelic powers
beautiful, cunning, a scripture lawyer (twists scripture tho he knows it)
who will be worshiped as God is worshiped

and he will sit in what is now the temple of God (believers)
in all but the elect 144,000 witnesses

The question of the original post bears repeating:
Seems unlikely for a number of logical reasons alone.

First, Satan operates by deception. Once you've seen deception and recognize it, as many here have, you don't fall for it again, regardless of what guise it takes. Deception simply fails the test of truth and can't stand the light of day.
helloooooo Bro!~

God states that the only ones that are redeemed of men/earth are the 144,000.

that leaves a lot of room for the rest of folks (including other Christians) to take the mark...

but God is not done with them...

He has blinded some folks, so He can teach them a real lesson,
and save them later in the Millennium with the help of those firstfruits(Ez44/2Thes2/1Cor5/Rev5/Rev20)

Second, the millennial kingdom is ruled by immortal beings who have overcome Satan's deceptions once already. The 144,000 who form Christ's army follow him whithersoever he goes, sharing a spiritual connection with him.
awsome isn't it!

Third, perhaps less logically based, it appears that the purpose of turning Satan loose a second time is simply to complete the harvest and burn away the chaff.

At least that's how I see things ...
so, the way I see it is every single person that truly believes in Christ,
and loves Him, will eventually be saved...

but for some of those believers, it will take the Millennium...a refinement

and there are a lot of people who are alive today,
that have never heard the teachings of Christ
and do not have the advantage that we have...

they WILL get an oppertunity....
 
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I still have to say that the day of the Lord is the 1,000 year reign... because with the Lord a day is like a thousand years (Israel down for 2 days...) and a thousand years like a day. (and on the 3rd day revived Israel...)
That has the ring of truth to it. That also explains a lot!

The day of His return may be a calendar day, but the Day of the Lord, as a millennium, sounds about right.

zeke37 said:
helloooooo Bro!~

God states that the only ones that are redeemed of men/earth are the 144,000.

that leaves a lot of room for the rest of folks (including other Christians) to take the mark...

but God is not done with them...

He has blinded some folks, so He can teach them a real lesson,
and save them later in the Millennium with the help of those firstfruits(Ez44/2Thes2/1Cor5/Rev5/Rev20)
Thanks, Zeke. I needed that. :D

Coupled with Ivebeenshown's observation that the millennial kingdom is the Day of the Lord, lots of things come into better focus.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
 
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The third millenium began in 2001. The Euphrates was dry on 9/11 when the first shot of the Battle of Ar Mageddon was fired (also known as the Battle of "That Great Day of God Almighty."
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That has the ring of truth to it. That also explains a lot!

The day of His return may be a calendar day, but the Day of the Lord, as a millennium, sounds about right.


Thanks, Zeke. I needed that. :D

Coupled with Ivebeenshown's observation that the millennial kingdom is the Day of the Lord, lots of things come into better focus.

2 Thessalonians 2:8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
i know that we do not always agree on everything,
but I have really enjoyed the discussions that yourself and Ivebeenshown and myself,
are having lately...

Bless and thank you both
 
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The third millenium AD began in 2001.

I agree with this statement. After all, that is why the Christians began their calendar. To count the days untill the morning of the third day. Revelations then tells us that this period will last for 1000 years and that the souls of all those who suffered for Christianity will be seen, justified. In other words, Christian Culture will have it's promised period of "the rest."
 
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After the Second Coming and judgement Jesus will reign on Earth for a thousand years and Satan will be bound for that time, then loosed for a short time.

My question is a simple one: Why? If he is to lead a final rebellion, aren't those reigning with Christ in danger of falling again? Scary thought...
I don't believe that those who reign with Christ over the thousand years will ever believe anything Satan says.. I believe when Satan gathers those who were not raised until the resurrection after the thousand years are the only ones that get captivated by what Satan says.. and do the one final rush on the Camp of God just in time for the fire to come down and burn them up. But there will be no trading sides after the thousand years..

I do believe that we will do several things over the thousand year period..

1.) first thing will be going to the wedding feast
2.) next thing will be to have our Lord wipe away our tears when we find out who made it and who didn't and why.
3.) we will judge the angels...
4.) there is also the aspect of learning about why God judged matters and handled things the way that He did and see that He is just, merciful, tolerant, long suffering, and righteous in His judgments.
5.) I think we will be able to travel from heaven to earth and vis versa... maybe throw in a few other inhabital planets along the way and meet with some of those who have never sinned who probably live somewhere out in the galaxy in another part of the universe.
6.) We will be able to learn directly from Him what are the rules of His kingdom.
7.) We will find out who got to be chosen for the elder's position and get to see the variety of angels, archangels, and creatures that are in the Lord's court.
8.) We will also be able to sing with the angels before our Lord in worship.

THen when we are satisfied, and the thousand years is up, the issues that we have controversy over will all have been addressed and we are all on the same page and will not be swayed by anything Satan has to say.. ever again... His and His crews judgment is fair.. righteous.. and we will praise the Lord for His wisdom in handling the sin issue like He did..
 
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We are in the sixth (6th) millennium of time since the end of the the first "week" of creation.

The 1,000 year Millennial Sabbath in Revelation is the second "day of rest".

We are presently at the brink of the end of the 6,000th year by 3 to 5 years.

At the moment of the time that is the exact end of the 6,00th year, Revelation 20 will begin.
Matthew 24:34 (KJV)
Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
The generation that Lord Jesus was speaking about is the one that we are living in today.
Everything is in line and soon the 6th seal will be opened and we will then be with our Lord.


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I don't believe that those who reign with Christ over the thousand years will ever believe anything Satan says..

Exactly right! :thumbsup:

Those reigning with Christ are "called and chosen and faithful". Not merely the Bride, they also follow withersoever He goes.


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Exactly right! :thumbsup:

Those reigning with Christ are "called and chosen and faithful". Not merely the Bride, they also follow withersoever He goes.
This NOT talking about the Millennial Reign
Rev. 17:14 (KJV)
These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

The Bride is not people...
Rev. 21:9-10 (KJV)
And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. [10] And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God,
they also follow withersoever He goes.
Rev. 14:4 (KJV)
These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

This is talking about the 144,000 not the martyrs of Revelation 20.


You are mixing scriptures up with a subject that they do not apply to.

I don't believe that those who reign with Christ over the thousand years will ever believe anything Satan says..

This is true, all of those who participate in this event, the Millennial Sabbath will not be seduced by the enemy when he is loosed from his prison for the short season.

GLORY to God on High!!!

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I agree with Covenant. The thousand years should not be taken literally anymore than the thousand used figuratively with God's promise to those who trust in him should be taken literally in the following verses.

Dt 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands.

PS 105:8 He remembers his covenant forever,
the word he commanded, for a thousand generations,

PS 50:10 for every animal of the forest is mine,
and the cattle on a thousand hills.

We can see that the eternal promise of God is used in conjunction with the expression of a thousand generations in PS 7:9 and PS 105:8. In this context forever and a thousand generations mean the same thing. If we take the thousand generations literally, what will God do with us after the thousand generations are over?

In PS 50:10 every creature is used in conjunction with cattle on a thousand hills. Obviously, the thousand hills is a figurative literary expression to represent every animal as the context of the verse indicates.

Another example is the prophet Isaiah's prophecy concerning Jesus who became the least so that he might become a great nation of believers:

ISA 60:22 The least of you will become a thousand,
the smallest a mighty nation.
I am the LORD;
in its time I will do this swiftly."

It is evident that there are many more believers than a thousand. The thousand represent a number which no man could count:

REV 7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb.

The millenium is a figurative expression of the kingdom of heaven revealed in the hearts of believers:

LK 17:20 Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, 21 nor will people say, `Here it is,' or `There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."

The beast is defeated by the preaching of the gospel which is the sword of Christ's mouth and by the testimony of the saints (armies clothed in white riding on white horses). Emperor worship and the worship of false God's in the Roman empire is replaced by christianity.

REV 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.

The beast is released after Christ returns and the bodies of believers are glorified and all believers appear on the earth in glorified bodies.

EZE 37:11 Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, `Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.' 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

At that time the door will be closed and no one else can enter in.

Lk 13:24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, `Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, `I don't know you or where you come from.'

Now after the elect has been secured in glorified bodies, Satan will be released to form another world empire to rule those of flesh and blood (We are flesh and bone as our Lord is). They will gather themselves to try to thrust us out, but fire will come down from heaven to judge them even as Jerusalem was judged by fire in the final days of the age of the law.

Ro 2:9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile

D.E. :hug:
 
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No, it is literal.

We will see.

His servant

Do you believe that Jesus looks like a lamb with seven horns and seven eyes as pictured in Revelations 5 or do you believe it is a representation of a characteristic or work done by Christ?

REV 5:6 Then I saw a Lamb, looking as if it had been slain, standing in the center of the throne, encircled by the four living creatures and the elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God sent out into all the earth.

Do you beieve that Jesus has a literal sword hanging out of his mouth as pictured in Revelations 19 or is it a representation of the gospel which is the word of God which proceeds from him?

REV 19:15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.

Do you believe that Jesus was literally a child as pictured in Revelations 12 when he was caught up to heaven or do you believe it is a representation of his birth and exaltation?

REV 12:5 She gave birth to a son, a male child, who will rule all the nations with an iron scepter. And her child was snatched up to God and to his throne.

Revelations is a symbolic book. If the symbols are not understood in their context the revelation of the mystery is missed and we retain a mythical understanding rather than insight into the mystery of God that is revealed by our Lord.

But as you say we will see.

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I agree with Covenant. The thousand years should not be taken literally anymore than the thousand used figuratively with God's promise to those who trust in him should be taken literally in the following verses.

Dt 7:9 Know therefore that the LORD your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commands.

PS 105:8 He remembers his covenant forever,
the word he commanded, for a thousand generations,

PS 50:10 for every animal of the forest is mine,
and the cattle on a thousand hills.

We can see that the eternal promise of God is used in conjunction with the expression of a thousand generations in PS 7:9 and PS 105:8. In this context forever and a thousand generations mean the same thing. If we take the thousand generations literally, what will God do with us after the thousand generations are over?

In PS 50:10 every creature is used in conjunction with cattle on a thousand hills. Obviously, the thousand hills is a figurative literary expression to represent every animal as the context of the verse indicates.

Another example is the prophet Isaiah's prophecy concerning Jesus who became the least so that he might become a great nation of believers:

ISA 60:22 The least of you will become a thousand,
the smallest a mighty nation.
I am the LORD;
in its time I will do this swiftly."

It is evident that there are many more believers than a thousand. The thousand represent a number which no man could count:

REV 7:9 After this I looked and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and in front of the Lamb.

The millenium is a figurative expression of the kingdom of heaven revealed in the hearts of believers:

LK 17:20 Once, having been asked by the Pharisees when the kingdom of God would come, Jesus replied, "The kingdom of God does not come with your careful observation, 21 nor will people say, `Here it is,' or `There it is,' because the kingdom of God is within you."

The beast is defeated by the preaching of the gospel which is the sword of Christ's mouth and by the testimony of the saints (armies clothed in white riding on white horses). Emperor worship and the worship of false God's in the Roman empire is replaced by christianity.

REV 19:11 I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and makes war. 12 His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself. 13 He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. 14 The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean. 15 Out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations.

The beast is released after Christ returns and the bodies of believers are glorified and all believers appear on the earth in glorified bodies.

EZE 37:11 Then he said to me: "Son of man, these bones are the whole house of Israel. They say, `Our bones are dried up and our hope is gone; we are cut off.' 12 Therefore prophesy and say to them: `This is what the Sovereign LORD says: O my people, I am going to open your graves and bring you up from them; I will bring you back to the land of Israel. 13 Then you, my people, will know that I am the LORD, when I open your graves and bring you up from them.

At that time the door will be closed and no one else can enter in.

Lk 13:24 "Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once the owner of the house gets up and closes the door, you will stand outside knocking and pleading, `Sir, open the door for us.'
"But he will answer, `I don't know you or where you come from.'

Now after the elect has been secured in glorified bodies, Satan will be released to form another world empire to rule those of flesh and blood (We are flesh and bone as our Lord is). They will gather themselves to try to thrust us out, but fire will come down from heaven to judge them even as Jerusalem was judged by fire in the final days of the age of the law.

Ro 2:9 There will be trouble and distress for every human being who does evil: first for the Jew, then for the Gentile

D.E. :hug:
Thousand come from the 1 over 10 people who are each over 10 people who are each over 10 people..etc thus the 1 is over the thousand when you get to the fourth generation... It is a principle way of understanding things.:bow:

Both cursing and blessing work through the same channels...

Exodus 20:5
You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
 
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All you need to really understand the millenium: know that Jesus said he would not drink the wine until he drinks it new in his kingdom with the apostles, know that the apostles DID eat and drink with him after his resurrection, know that John said 'the beast was, and is not, and shall ascend from the bottomless pit' and know that in Revelation 20, Satan ascends from the bottomless pit after the 'thousand' years.

I mean, John says it right there... 'was, is not, and shall ascend'
 
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There are three types of people who can make themselves to the Heaven:

1. Saved by Jesus during the Gospel time (Jesus time to the Rapture).
2. Faithful people in the Old Testament time and in the Tribulation.
3. "Good" people who never have chance to know God.

The first type goes directly to Heaven.
The second type resurrected at the end of the Tribulation. And they reign (with Jesus) during the Millennial time.
The third type are selected during the GWT judgement.

Now, think: What would happen if satan were still free on the earth during the Millennium? Since Jesus is in control and the second type people resurrected but is still on the earth, so satan must not exist on the earth during that period of time (so it would need another tribulation time). However, that does not mean he is finished either.

The Millennium is only a short hiatus between the end of the Tribulation and the GWT judgement. Evil should not exist during that period of time. But pain, tear and death should still be around for people who come into existence during the Millennium. The world during the Millennium time is not perfect. The new-born people have not been tested by satan. It is not clear yet who among them could make themselves to the Heaven.

Questions remain, but do not forget the secret of seven thunders (Rev 10) which is not allowed to be told but is revealed to John just before the end of the Tribulation.
 
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That is why the time table formula was given to us by Holy Spirit through Apostle Peter.
2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

This equation, if applied, means that it took 6,000 years to create and then
1,000 years of our time for the "day of rest".

Hebrews 13:8 (KJV)
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

John 1:1-3 (KJV)
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] All things were made by Him; and without Him was not any thing made that was made.

We are at the brink of the end of 6,000 years since the first day after the first "day of rest" which is the second week.

Being the same yesterday, today and forever, it is clear that the final 1,000 years of this planets existence would be as it was during the first week,
"a day of rest".

Ie; the Millennial Sabbath

No formula, just taking God at His Word and properly applying the wisdom of God.
Not being ignorant.

Or using mans wisdom to find the answer.
2 Peter 3:8 (KJV)
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years (is to man), and a thousand years as one day (to God).
Genesis 2:2-3 (KJV)
And on the seventh day God ended His work which He had made; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had made. [3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it He had rested from all His work which God created and made.

Lord Jesus is the one that did all the work, in and by the power of the Three.
Him being the same yesterday, today and forever, would not make a change to the time-line by Holy Spirit using a symbolic meaning when He told us about the 1,000 years in the end of the book.

The 1,000 years are a literal time of just that, 1,000 years. Period.

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There are three types of people who can make themselves to the Heaven:

1. Saved by Jesus during the Gospel time (Jesus time to the Rapture).
2. Faithful people in the Old Testament time and in the Tribulation.
3. "Good" people who never have chance to know God.

The first type goes directly to Heaven.
The second type resurrected at the end of the Tribulation. And they reign (with Jesus) during the Millennial time.
The third type are selected during the GWT judgement.

Now, think: What would happen if satan were still free on the earth during the Millennium? Since Jesus is in control and the second type people resurrected but is still on the earth, so satan must not exist on the earth during that period of time (so it would need another tribulation time). However, that does not mean he is finished either.

The Millennium is only a short hiatus between the end of the Tribulation and the GWT judgement. Evil should not exist during that period of time. But pain, tear and death should still be around for people who come into existence during the Millennium. The world during the Millennium time is not perfect. The new-born people have not been tested by satan. It is not clear yet who among them could make themselves to the Heaven.

Questions remain, but do not forget the secret of seven thunders (Rev 10) which is not allowed to be told but is revealed to John just before the end of the Tribulation.

When you say that "satan must not exist during the millennium", you are correct. Satan is cast out of the Christian Promised land of rest. He is cast into the pit with a chain on his leg. Rev.20;1- The "pit" is the remainder of the world apart from the Christian's promised kingdom. But European Christian Israel is the Christian rest mentioned in Heb.4;4,9

Just as the first Covenant of the Law of Moses had it's reward of the promised land, so too the second covenant that was brought in by Jesus has theirs. The nations that followed Jesus were the European Christian Nations. Although many other people have followed Jesus and are today following his teachings they may not be living in the Christian promised land for the millennium. They may be somewhere in India or Africa or China. Today these areas of the world are called "the pit." There the serpent roams. The Serpent roams anywhere that the principle of "survival of the fittest" is allowed. But in European Christian Israel today, and for the next 1000 years the serpent is not allowed.

We are today here instigating justice and Compassionate mercy in our kingdom. The death penelty is abolished in European Christiandom. The twelve stars on the E.U. flag, although not yet the proper colors, are the crown on the head of the woman of Rev.12;1 We have begun the kingdom which Jesus tells us of in Matt.19;28 "Verily I say unto you, that ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the son of man will sit in the of his glory, ye also shall sit upon 12 thrones judging the 12 tribes of Israel.

The son of man is the son of man. Jesus Christ was born of a virgin and not therefore a son of man. Although he was a son of woman, he was the son of God. To say that Jesus Christ is the "son of man" would be blastphemous to the truth. But everything he did and said applied to mankind and also to himself. This is the cleverness of Biblical scripture! In this way he took on our sins, by being an example.

For example, just as he was killed in the end, we too, Christianity, is today considered all but dead. But it does this to follow Christ and rise again. Paul says we die in Christ, but expecting as he did to rise again. We rise again today brothers! in European Christian Israel the kingdom of God on earth. Then after this millennium the white throne of Rev.20;11 will be brought out.
 
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