Migratory birds in North America are shrinking as their wings get bigger. Climate change is to blame

[Tuur]

Neither fiction nor fear are in the OP. There is, however, data.

Which brings us to two questions:

1. The validity of the data. This goes beyond data accuracy. If there is a change, is it within the normal range of variation.

2. If the data is valid, the reason for the change. "Global Warming" seems to be a catch-all these days. Another, non-Global Warming possibility immediately comes to mind: lack of habitat due to increased population. This could mean migratory birds must fly further to find a suitable habitat.

 

[Frank Robert]

Which brings us to two questions:

1. The validity of the data. This goes beyond data accuracy. If there is a change, is it within the normal range of variation.

2. If the data is valid, the reason for the change. "Global Warming" seems to be a catch-all these days. Another, non-Global Warming possibility immediately comes to mind: lack of habitat due to increased population. This could mean migratory birds must fly further to find a suitable habitat.

It all a farce Confirmed! We Live in a Simulation.

The claims have been afforded some credence by repetition by luminaries no less esteemed than Neil deGrasse Tyson, the director of Hayden Planetarium and America’s favorite science popularizer.

To understand if we live in a simulation we need to start by looking at the fact that we already have computers running all kinds of simulations for lower level “intelligences” or algorithms. For easy visualization, we can imagine these intelligences as any nonperson characters in any video game that we play, but in essence any algorithm operating on any computing machine would qualify for our thought experiment. We don’t need the intelligence to be conscious, and we don’t need it to even be very complex, because the evidence we are looking for is “experienced” by all computer programs, simple or complex, running on all machines, slow or fast.​

 

[AV1611VET]

It all a farce Confirmed! We Live in a Simulation.

I have a feeling we would have gone 404 a long time ago.

 

[Kylie]

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More science fiction from the esteemed scientist, any tall tale to make their agenda fearful.

Can you show where the flaw in the data is?

 

[AV1611VET]

Can you show where the flaw in the data is?

No one can get to the data to refute it.

 

[d taylor]

Can you show where the flaw in the data is?

Yes,

 

[Tinker Grey]

Yes, View attachment 323811

You're right. There are flaws in that data.

 

[Frank Robert]

Yes, View attachment 323811

The bible commands us to be stewards of the god's earth not to pollute beyond repair.

 

[d taylor]

The bible commands us to be stewards of the god's earth not to pollute beyond repair.

Well since most people are not believers, i would say the ball is in the court of the unbeliever. Why are yall polluting God's creation.

 

[Frank Robert]

Well since most people are not believers, i would say the ball is in the court of the unbeliever. Why are yall polluting God's creation.

Many religions including Christian denominations as well as atheists, and agnostics are involved in the climate debates but selfishness, fossil fuel and industries for unlimited growth still prevail. One example: Up to half of our worldwide fisheries are on the the brink of collapse.

The study involving more than 500 fisheries experts globally shows that half of the world’s 1,400 assessed fish stocks are now overfished.​

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The assessment shows that 49% of fish stocks are overfished, up significantly from the previous global estimate of 34%. Data indicating whether or not stocks are sustainably fished have not been updated since 1990.​

 

[d taylor]

Many religions including Christian denominations as well as atheists, and agnostics are involved in the climate debates but selfishness, fossil fuel and industries for unlimited growth still prevail. One example: Up to half of our worldwide fisheries are on the the brink of collapse.

The study involving more than 500 fisheries experts globally shows that half of the world’s 1,400 assessed fish stocks are now overfished.​

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The assessment shows that 49% of fish stocks are overfished, up significantly from the previous global estimate of 34%. Data indicating whether or not stocks are sustainably fished have not been updated since 1990.​

What is the reason for the needing of all the fish, is it for food or commercial products

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Climate Patterns Thousands of Miles Away Affect US Bird Migration​

Climate Patterns Thousands of Miles Away Affect US Bird Migration – Climate Change: Vital Signs of the Planet

A NASA-led study links bird migration timing to large-scale climate patterns originating thousands of miles away.

climate.nasa.gov

Flower colors are changing in response to climate change​

Flower colors are changing in response to climate change

Pigment changes could make plants less attractive to pollinators

www.science.org

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Well since most people are not believers, i would say the ball is in the court of the unbeliever. Why are yall polluting God's creation.

Because we like our energy to come from fossil fuels.

 

[d taylor]

Because we like our energy to come from fossil fuels.

Well i do not agree with the fossil fuel part, i believe oil is a natural resource created by God just like He created trees and flowers.

But what is wrong with biomethane

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

i believe oil is a natural resource created by God just like He created trees and flowers.

You mean created as is and not the result of a much longer process of heat and pressure on plants and animal remnants from millions of years ago.

Well, I suppose it really doesn't matter. What does matter is the burning of these fuels, however they came to be, and the effects on the environment.

 

[Frank Robert]

What is the reason for the needing of all the fish, is it for food or commercial products

Fish is a vital source of food for people. It is man's most important single source of high-quality protein, providing ~16% of the animal protein consumed by by the world’s population

Fish loss was just one example of human hubris.

Just in the US midwest. More Than 50 Billion Tons of Topsoil Have Eroded in the Midwest

The estimate of annual loss is nearly double the rate of erosion the USDA considers sustainable​

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...Without healthy soil, farmers won't be able to grow nutrient-dense food to feed our growing population. The calculated loss in the region is part of a critical issue; some experts suspect that Earth will run out of usable topsoil within 60 years.​

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That does not mean we have 60 years left, it means that each year the degraded soil will mean less yield till it won't be worth farming at all.

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And to make matters worse: COP27’s (2022 United Nations Climate Change Conference) Loss and Damage Deal Isn’t a Win. It Committed Us To Devastation.

 

[AV1611VET]

Many religions including Christian denominations as well as atheists, and agnostics are involved in the climate debates but selfishness, fossil fuel and industries for unlimited growth still prevail.

I don't want tree huggers preaching climate control to me, when they:

1. drive a gas-powered car
2. have a cement patio
3. have glass windows
4. have a barbecue grill
5. have a fireplace
6. drink pop
7. use a CO2 extinguisher

 

[Kylie]

Yes, View attachment 323811

This doesn't reference the data at all.

Please point to the PART OF THE DATA that is incorrect.

 

[Kylie]

No one can get to the data to refute it.

That's not true. The data can be accessed with the cost of a subscription. Or, you could write to the authors and ask them nicely if they could send you a copy of the paper, and you could get it for free.

 

[d taylor]

This doesn't reference the data at all.

Please point to the PART OF THE DATA that is incorrect.

I do not need to see the data to know it is false The Bible already proves that God is in control of His creation, i need no other data to believe this.