Michael Cohen has now officially turned on Donald Trump

[Root of Jesse]

If the payment didn't take place, maybe you should tell Trumps lawyer Giuliani. Regardless, it will all come out in court.

You mean the guy who says that no payment took place?

Bill Clinton cheated, why is Hillary still with him? Its their business. I'm not going to fault a woman for keeping the marriage together and forgiving (You know the biblical thing to do) the man she loves for all his faults.

I guess you don't know what forgiveness is. But Ivana didn't forgive Donald, or maybe she did, she just couldn't stay married to him. Marla Maples didn't forgive Donald, though maybe she did, she just couldn't stay married to him.

But just like you folks wonder about Melania and Trump, especially when she's got nothing to lose by divorcing him, we wonder about Hillary and Bill, but wait! Hillary had presidential aspirations, and at the time, divorce didn't look good. They don't have a marriage, for real, it's in name only. They're rarely together. Donald and Melania are constantly together, she's constantly supporting all he does, and he supports her, as well. It doesn't seem like there was any infidelity, but if there was, you're right, she forgave him, and decided to stay. For Baron, as someone else said.

 

[Root of Jesse]

More ahead for President Right-to-Life?
Michael Cohen may have evidence of the most shameful Trump rumors — and it could be a huge threat to Trump's presidency - Business Insider

great, a link that doesn't work.

 

[cow451]

great, a link that doesn't work.

Try this one. My apologies for the bad link.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mic...enced-trump-payoffs-pregnancy-cover-up-2018-7

 

[Root of Jesse]

This may be the case also, but it bothers me to no end that the "divorce is against God's original intent" crew are always ready to crucify her for holding her family together.

I don't know who that might be. Divorce isn't really a problem. Remarriage is a problem. What I, and many conservatives see, is Hillary staying in the marriage for political gain. I don't believe marriage should be for self-interest. But that's just me.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Try this one. My apologies for the bad link.
https://www.businessinsider.com/mic...enced-trump-payoffs-pregnancy-cover-up-2018-7

Thank you. I don't see any problem. IT is not illegal to pay someone to shut up. It is not illegal to have a child out of wedlock. There is nothing illegal in any of this. As someone said, why is everyone so surprised that a guy who owned and ran casinos would be consorting with playmates and porn stars? I don't get it.
It doesn't change the fact that, despite all the distractions being presented, the president is focused like a laser beam and getting all sorts of stuff done. From trade deals to border wall funding to dealing with illegals, he's winning. If I had voted for and elected a priest, I might be really disappointed. But I voted for a guy who buys and builds in NYC, where all the unions are run by mobsters, basically. I don't think there's such a big difference between politicians and mob people, personally.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Sure, if you ignore all the guilty pleas and indictments.

For nothing involving "Trump collusion with Russia to change the outcome of an election"...

 

[Root of Jesse]

You are a fan of a serial liar that sexually assaults women, has mob ties, stiffs contractors, and discriminates against people of color?

No, not very much in favor of William Clinton or his wife.

 

[AirPo]

For nothing involving "Trump collusion with Russia to change the outcome of an election"...

Which doesn't mean anything other than trying to deflect from the fact that there have been actual results coming from the investigation.

 

[AirPo]

No, not very much in favor of William Clinton or his wife.

Are you aware the "I know you are but what am I" response reduces your credibility to zero?

 

[Root of Jesse]

My guess is Mueller is going to have some pretty convincing evidence, by all accounts that investigation is like a bull dog. We are proably not going to see an end to this before the beginning of the year and they get Trump under oath I think he will have to take the fifth.

Of course they wouldn't conclude just before the midterm, which points to the fact that he's not involved. If he was involved, they'd reveal it in September.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Which doesn't mean anything other than trying to deflect from the fact that there have been actual results coming from the investigation.

Not regarding the purported target of the investigation.

 

[AirPo]

Not regarding the purported target of the investigation.

Which means the investigation is having results and the purported target is not off the hook and more and more likely to be caught.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Do you honestly not know what's going on in the US?

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/spe...rs-investigation-stands-now/story?id=56722923



Nevertheless, it's an established fact that Donald cheated on his first wife with the woman who eventually became his second wife, who walked out on him for being "ego-driven" and "obsessive" about himself (her words, not mine), and has cheated on his current wife at least twice that we know of, having paid hush money in the hundreds of thousands -- which clearly was a bad deal on his part.

But I guess nobody's allowed to discuss this, since we're not all saints.

Meh. I think this is better than raping or sexually assaulting women, then sending your wife out to slander them.

Donald isn't being prosecuted, he's being investigated.

Persecuted, more like.

And seeing how many of his cronies have already plead guilty, their own words are evidence of their own crimes -- it remains to be seen how much light they can shed on Donald's own shady dealings... bearing in mind he's been brought to court many times as a private citizen... and lost.

It's true that Trump made a couple of bad picks in a couple of cases, but even the FBI said they didn't think Flynn was lying. Manafort was a nobody, for all intents and purposes. Everyone else is, mostly, foreign nationals.

Kudos to you, btw, for using the administration-approved term "witchhunt" -- your recitation of the official script is flawless.



I have spoken to lawyers on the matter -- you might want to follow your own advice.



Whatabout! Whatabout! Whatabout!

My, you do know the script, don't you?

That's usually what happens when you point fingers at someone, you get them pointed back at you, and harder.

 

[cow451]

Thank you. I don't see any problem. IT is not illegal to pay someone to shut up. It is not illegal to have a child out of wedlock. There is nothing illegal in any of this. As someone said, why is everyone so surprised that a guy who owned and ran casinos would be consorting with playmates and porn stars? I don't get it.
It doesn't change the fact that, despite all the distractions being presented, the president is focused like a laser beam and getting all sorts of stuff done. From trade deals to border wall funding to dealing with illegals, he's winning. If I had voted for and elected a priest, I might be really disappointed. But I voted for a guy who buys and builds in NYC, where all the unions are run by mobsters, basically. I don't think there's such a big difference between politicians and mob people, personally.

Campaign Finance.

You voted for this guy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bba4dd1535c8

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Thank you. I don't see any problem. IT is not illegal to pay someone to shut up. It is not illegal to have a child out of wedlock. There is nothing illegal in any of this. As someone said, why is everyone so surprised that a guy who owned and ran casinos would be consorting with playmates and porn stars? I don't get it.
It doesn't change the fact that, despite all the distractions being presented, the president is focused like a laser beam and getting all sorts of stuff done. From trade deals to border wall funding to dealing with illegals, he's winning. If I had voted for and elected a priest, I might be really disappointed. But I voted for a guy who buys and builds in NYC, where all the unions are run by mobsters, basically. I don't think there's such a big difference between politicians and mob people, personally.

Donald Trump was even on the cover of Playboy Magazine. He used to be a Hollywood liberal. I think the real reason why Trump is hated by Hollywood and the media now is he isn't one of them anymore.

 

[Root of Jesse]

Are you aware the "I know you are but what am I" response reduces your credibility to zero?

Oh, were you talking about someone else?

 

[Root of Jesse]

Campaign Finance.

You voted for this guy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...ory.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.bba4dd1535c8

Yes, I did, with full knowledge that he has experienced failure in his life. At least he experienced failure at something he tried to do, rather than being a government official. IF you have never failed at anything substantial, you haven't lived, and I think if you haven't failed, you're not worthy of elected office.
You may or may not know, Michael Jordan, arguably the best basketball player ever, couldn't make his high school team. He asked why, his coach explained his weaknesses to him, and he worked on them and kept asking and kept working until he had the game down pat. Again, if you haven't failed at something in your life, at least your adult life, you haven't lived, and aren't worthy of elected office. And if you try to present yourself as perfect, I know you're lying, and will not vote for you. Everyone has failures. So what?

 

[AirPo]

Oh, were you talking about someone else?

Can't get any lower than zero.

 

[AirPo]

Yes, I did, with full knowledge that he has experienced failure in his life. At least he experienced failure at something he tried to do, rather than being a government official. IF you have never failed at anything substantial, you haven't lived, and I think if you haven't failed, you're not worthy of elected office.
You may or may not know, Michael Jordan, arguably the best basketball player ever, couldn't make his high school team. He asked why, his coach explained his weaknesses to him, and he worked on them and kept asking and kept working until he had the game down pat. Again, if you haven't failed at something in your life, at least your adult life, you haven't lived, and aren't worthy of elected office. And if you try to present yourself as perfect, I know you're lying, and will not vote for you. Everyone has failures. So what?

Trump sure is failing now.

 

[Danoh]

Donald Trump was even on the cover of Playboy Magazine. He used to be a Hollywood liberal. I think the real reason why Trump is hated by Hollywood and the media now is he isn't one of them anymore.

Quit thinking in a vacuum and actually do some research.

The following exposé of Trump's long pattern of financial and political corruption was published back when he was the darling of "the Liberals."

http://www.nationinstitute.org/featuredwork/books/1283/trump:_the_deals_and_the_downfall/