Message for muslim Allah

[GentleGospeller]

The word "Allah" in the Islamic system is never a plural word, but ever and only singular, isolated, alone.

The actual word for "god" in Arabic is "ilah", not "Allah", irrespective of what many continue to incorrectly say. Allah is not a "contraction" of al-ilah, for this is just wild speculation, unsubstantiated for the syncretists and ecumenical (even the Encyclopedia Britannica is unsure, using the word "probably", but unsubstantiated; and even wiki says, "The Arabic word for God (Allāh) is thought to be derived from it (in a proposed earlier form al-Lāh) though this is disputed.[2][3]" and another says, "Contrary to popular belief, the word Allah is NOT a contraction of al-ilah (al meaning 'the', and ilah meaning 'god'). Had it been so, then the expression ya Allah ('O Allah!') would have been ungrammatical, because according to the Arabic language when you address someone by the vocative form ya followed by a title, the al ('the') must be dropped from the title. For example, you cannot say ya ar-rabb but must say ya rabb (for 'O Lord'). So if the word Allah was al-ilah ('the God'), we would not be able to say: ya Allah, which we do."). "Allah" is actually the male consort of Allat,

"a pre-Islamic Arabian goddess, at one time worshipped under various associations throughout the entire Arabian Peninsula, including Mecca, where she was worshipped alongside Al-Uzza and Manat as one of the daughters of Allah. The word Allat or Elat has been used to refer to various goddesses in the ancient Near East, including the goddess Asherah-Athirat.​

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The worship of al-Lat is attested in South Arabian inscriptions as Lat and Latan, but she had more prominence in north Arabia and the Hejaz, and her cult reached as far as Syria.[3] The writers of the Safaitic script frequently invoked al-Lat in their inscriptions. She was also worshipped by the Nabataeans and was associated with al-'Uzza. The presence of her cult was attested in both Palmyra and Hatra. Under Greco-Roman influence, her iconography began to show the attributes of Athena, the Greek goddess of war, as well as her Roman equivalent Minerva.​

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According to Islamic sources, the tribe of Banu Thaqif in Ta'if especially held reverence to her. In Islamic tradition, her worship ended when her temple in Ta'if was demolished on the orders of Muhammad.[4]"​

The false 'god' (ilah) of certain pagan Arabians, was "Allah", and was among a cabal or pantheon of other false 'gods', but yet worshipped as a chief diety above the others. This name was even utilized before Islam even existed as acknowleged by a qur'an itself.

"In this vein, Allah Says (interpretation of meaning): {And if you (O Muhammad SAW) ask them: "Who has created the heavens and the earth," they will certainly say: "Allâh." …} [31: 25]. He also Says: {Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Who provides for you from the sky and from the earth? Or who owns hearing and sight? And who brings out the living from the dead and brings out the dead from the living? And who disposes the affairs?" They will say: "Allâh." Say: "Will you not then be afraid of Allâh's Punishment (for setting up rivals in worship with Allâh)?"} [10: 31]. He also Says: {… And those who take Auliyâ' (protectors and helpers) besides Him (say): "We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allâh." …} [39: 3]. He also Says: {And they worship besides Allâh things that hurt them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allâh." …} [10: 18]." - Name of Allah used before Quran​

The Hebrew word "elohiym" is always a plural word, never singular. It cannot be translated as "allah". The word "ilah" can be translated from "el", or possibly "eloah", or even the Syriack "Elah".

“Elohiym” (Gen. 1:1 HOT, etc) x (a lot) (true plural, 3 or greater form), “us” x 4 (plural pronoun), “our” x 3 (plural pronoun): Gen. 1:26, 3:22, 11:7; Isa. 6:8; “we” x 3 (plural pronoun): Jhn. 3:11; “Creators” x 1 (Ecc. 12:1 HOT, “בוראיך”) (plural pronoun) (see also Job 33:4; Isa. 43:7; Rom. 11:36; 1 Cor. 8:6; Heb. 1:2, 2:10; Rev. 4:11), “Makers” x 3 (Job 35:10 HOT, “עשׂי”) & (Psa. 149:2 HOT, “בעשׂיו”) & (Isa. 54:5 HOT, “עשׂיך”) (plural pronoun); “Holy Ones” x 1 (Pro. 9:10 HOT, “קדשׁים”) (plural pronoun); &c; Verbs are plural in association with Elohiym: Gen. 20:13, “התעו” (wander) connected to Elohiym is plural; Gen. 35:7, “נגלו” (revealed) connected to Elohiym is plural; Deu. 4:7, “קרבים” (nigh) connected to Elohiym is plural; Jos. 24:19, “קדשׁים” (Holy) connected to Elohiym is plural; 2 Sam. 7:23, “הלכו” (went) connected to Elohiym is plural; Psa. 58:11, “שׁפטים” (judge) connected to Elohiym is plural; Pro. 30:3-4, “קדשׁים” (holy) connected to vs 4 with the “name” (of the Father), and that of “son’s name”. Even the word “Adonai” (“לאדני”) is given mostly/majority in the plural (Gen. 18:30; Exo. 34:23; Deu. 10:17; Jos. 3:11,13; Psa. 45:11; 114:7; 135:5; Mal. 1:6).

(A.) Genesis 1:1 KJB - In the beginning God (H430 ; Elohiym, true plural, 3) created the heaven and the earth. (“God said”, “God made”, “God saw”)​

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(B.) Zechariah 3:2 KJB - And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, O Satan; even the LORD that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?​

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(C.) 1 John 5:7 KJB - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. (“agree in one”, parallel in 1 Jhn 5:8) ​

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(D.) Ecclesiastes 4:12 KJB - And if one prevail against him, two shall withstand him; and a threefold cord is not quickly broken.​

(1.) The Person/Being of the Father (Mat. 6:9; Luk. 11:2), JEHOVAH (“the LORD”, Gen. 19:24b; Zec. 3:2b), the “Ancient of Days” (Dan. 7:9,13,22), “the only true God” (Jhn. 17:3. “τον μονον αληθινον θεον”), “God” (Psa. 45:7b.; Heb. 1:9b.; Jhn. 1:1b., “τον θεον”), who spoke to the Son:

(A.) Revelation 4:11 KJB - Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.​

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(B.) Revelation 10:6 KJB - And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:​

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(C). Genesis 1:6 KJB - And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.​

(2.) The Person/Being of the Son, Jesus JEHOVAH ((H3444; H3068) “ישׁועתה ליהוה”; Gen. 49:18; Exo. 14:13; 2 Chr. 20:17; Jon. 2:10; Psa. 119:174 HOT) or JEHOVAH Immanuel ((Psa. 46:7,11) Psa. 46:8,12 HOT, (H3068; H5973; H430), “יהוה ... עמנו... אלהי”), “the LORD” (Gen. 19:24a.; Zec. 3:2a.; Heb. 1:10; Psa. 102:12,25-27; Heb. 13:4-8), “the son of man” (Dan. 7:13), “the only begotten” (Jhn. 1:14,18, 3:16,18; Heb. 11:17; 1 Jhn. 4:9, is basically monogene (μονογενῆ; Jhn. 3:16; Heb. 11:17; 1 Jhn. 4:9) or monogenes (μονογενὴς; Jhn. 1:18) or monogenous (μονογενοῦς; Jhn. 1:14, 3:18)), “the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father” (2 Jhn. 1:3; Κυρίου Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ τοῦ υἱοῦ τοῦ πατρός), “the express image of his (God, The Father’s) person” (Heb. 1:3; χαρακτὴρ τῆς ὑποστάσεως αὐτοῦ), being Himself also “God” (Jhn. 1:1c., “θεος ην ο λογος”; Jhn. 1:14,18, 3:16,18; Heb. 11:17; 1 Jhn. 4:9; Psa. 47:5a.; Heb. 1:8,9a.), even “O God” (Heb. 1:9, “ο θεος”), and the “son of man” (Dan. 7:13), the “fellow” (Zec. 13:7), who acted, “made” all things (Jhn. 1:1-3; Eph. 3:9; Col. 1:16; Heb. 1:1-3), on behalf of the Father’s will (Pro. 8:22-36; Jhn. 5:30, 6:38), though, a father in His own right (Isa. 9:6; Heb. 2:13; Isa. 8:16,18; Jhn. 13:33), and yet also the perfect Son (Num. 19:2; “without spot, wherein is no blemish, and upon which never came yoke”), the “Angel (Messenger)” (Mal. 3:1b) “of the LORD (Father)” (Zec. 3:1); “Michael” (Dan. 10:13,21, 12:1; 1 Thes. 4:16; Jud. 1:9; Rev. 12:7), the great “I am” (Jhn. 8:58; ἐγὼ εἰμί), see also Jhn. 4:26, 6:20,35,41,48,51, 8:12,18,24,28,58, 9:5, 10:7,9,11,14, 11:25, 14:6, 15:1,5, 18:5,6,8, 13:19:

(A.) John 1:1 KJB - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.​

John 1:2 KJB - The same was in the beginning with God.​

John 1:3 KJB - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.​

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(B.) Ephesians 3:9 KJB - And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:​

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(C.) Colossians 1:16 KJB - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:​

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(D.) Hebrews 1:1 KJB - God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,​

Hebrews 1:2 KJB - Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;​

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(E.) Genesis 1:7 KJB - And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.​

(3.) The Person/Being of the Holy Ghost/Spirit, the “another Comforter” (Jhn. 14:16), the “Spirit of truth.” (Jhn. 14:17), “Comforter … the Holy Ghost” (Jhn. 14:26), the “LORD” (Zec. 3:2c.), and a father in His own right (Mat. 1:18; Luk. 1:35; 1 Pet. 1:23; Jhn. 1:13, 3:3-8; 1 Jhn. 3:9, 4:7, 5:1,4,18), yet differing than the Father or the Son (Isa. 48:16; Jhn. 14:26):

(A.) Job 33:4 KJB - The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life.​

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(B.) Genesis 1:2 KJB - And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.​

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(C.) Genesis 1:31 KJB - And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.​

 

[peter2]

Sorry, gentlegospeller,
i can't put a "like" or whatever else on your posts. They are too dense for my little brain.. Actually, my brain hardly stand reading non synthetic speeches

 

[dzheremi]

The word "Allah" in the Islamic system is never a plural word, but ever and only singular, isolated, alone.

Thankfully for everyone, "the Islamic system" does not get to decide for everyone how the Arabic language works. The plural, "Gods", is in Arabic "Aliha", from the same '-l-(h) root as "Allah". Thus, e.g., Psalm 96:5 ("The gods of the nations are idols, but the LORD made the heavens") is translated in the SVD as follows:

لأَنَّ كُلَّ آلِهَةِ الشُّعُوبِ أَصْنَامٌ أَمَّا الرَّبُّ فَقَدْ صَنَعَ السَّمَاوَاتِ​

The underlined and italicized word is "aliha(ti)" ("ti" is a case ending, marking it as being in the genitive case, since it's "the gods of the nations"), which is the plural form of "Allah". What the person you copied this from is probably trying to say is that "Allah" is not declined like a regular noun -- e.g., it cannot take a possessive or plural ending (in the same way that in English, we do not say "my the God" or "our the God"), so to say things like "our God", we would say and write إلهنا ilahuna, or to say "my God", we say إلهي ilahi, since "-na" and "-i" are the first person singular and plural possessive suffixes (respectively) in Arabic.

The actual word for "god" in Arabic is "ilah", not "Allah", irrespective of what many continue to incorrectly say. Allah is not a "contraction" of al-ilah, for this is just wild speculation, unsubstantiated for the syncretists and ecumenical (even the Encyclopedia Britannica is unsure, using the word "probably", but unsubstantiated; and even wiki says, "The Arabic word for God (Allāh) is thought to be derived from it (in a proposed earlier form al-Lāh) though this is disputed.[2][3]" and another says, "Contrary to popular belief, the word Allah is NOT a contraction of al-ilah (al meaning 'the', and ilah meaning 'god'). Had it been so, then the expression ya Allah ('O Allah!') would have been ungrammatical, because according to the Arabic language when you address someone by the vocative form ya followed by a title, the al ('the') must be dropped from the title. For example, you cannot say ya ar-rabb but must say ya rabb (for 'O Lord'). So if the word Allah was al-ilah ('the God'), we would not be able to say: ya Allah, which we do.").

This person really does not want you to know of the vocative form Allahuma (اللهم), which absolutely does exist and destroys their silly little argument!

The real issue with deriving Allah from al-ilah is a bit more complicated than this and has to do with the epigraphic evidence we have for both words and their possible differing origins in Christian vs. Pagan communities (see, e.g., al-Shdaifat et al. 2017 for an example of al-ilah among Christians in pre-Islamic Arabia, which suggests that it is a calque of the Greek ho theos). In other words, it may or may not make sense grammatically to derive one from the other (I don't know enough about Arabic historical linguistics to say, though I have read that there are some morphological issues with this derivation), but separate from that, if we go by the texts that we have, it suggests that Arab Christians were using al-ilah or something very close to it while nearby pagans were using Allah, despite the fact that both would have recognized the semantic and morphological relation between the two words, given how Arabic word-formation works. (And we know that Christian Arabs used the word "Allah" in theophoric names prior to the invention of Islam thanks to, e.g., some of the testimonies gathered from the Christians of Yemen in the 6th century by HG Simeon of Beth Arsham, who interviewed the witnesses of the massacres perpetrated by the Yemenite Jewish Himyarites at that time.)

The Hebrew word "elohiym" is always a plural word, never singular.

This is a bit of a nonsense statement, isn't it? "-im" is the plural marker in Hebrew, so any word that has it would be plural. This is like saying "the word trees is always plural, never singular." I mean...yeah, when you put an -s on the end of something, it makes it plural.

It cannot be translated as "allah". The word "ilah" can be translated from "el", or possibly "eloah", or even the Syriack "Elah".

How old is this reference? The word is "Syriac", not "Syriack". Also, this is not some revelation, as Arabic, Hebrew, and Syriac are all Semitic languages, so they all derive their word for God from the same underlying root.

 

[Robban]

I was actually less discussing about the realities of beliefs than about Truth.

For, nocturnal butterflies don't deny this plain truth only the sun produces heat and light, and that sun and moon are 2 different stars.

It was just a metaphoric way to give back christianism what is his, and respectively, to islam what is islam's (Lc 20, 25), in my view

The sun is crowned, the moon reflects light from the sun., there was a dispute in the heavens when the sun was crowned.

The moon wanted it but God asked the moon, "How can two Kings share the same crown."

"The sun knows it s time of setting, but you know the times, days, months, festivals, holidays and even high tide ,low tide, spring tide."

In one Psalm the moon is cslled,"My faithful witness in the sky."

Every 15th of the month on the Jewish calender is full moon, with a few exeptions.

So though not the same star they work well together, would reckon.

 

[JosephZ]

Yes. It's also a non-sequitur, and irrelevant in discussion of the ilah of Islam in contrast to the elohiym of scripture.

There was a question in my post that went unanswered.

Below are a few verses from the Qur'an:

“We believe in God, and in what was revealed to us; and in what was revealed to Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in what was given to Moses, and Jesus, and the prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we submit.” (Qur'an 3:84)

"Who would forsake the religion of Abraham, except he who fools himself?" We chose him in this world, and in the Hereafter he will be among the righteous. (Qur'an 130)

"We will worship thy God, the God of our forefathers Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac, the One God; and unto Him will we surrender ourselves." (Qur'an 2:133)

With the above verses in mind, what god are they describing?

Romanism
&
Islamism

Can you provide a link or a source for this?

 

[peter2]

The sun is crowned, the moon reflects light from the sun., there was a dispute in the heavens when the sun was crowned.

The moon wanted it but God asked the moon, "How can two Kings share the same crown."

"The sun knows it s time of setting, but you know the times, days, months, festivals, holidays and even high tide ,low tide, spring tide."

In one Psalm the moon is cslled,"My faithful witness in the sky."

Every 15th of the month on the Jewish calender is full moon, with a few exeptions.

So though not the same star they work well together, would reckon.

Sorry Robban.

This personification of stars all looks like to me like poetry, nice poetry.
One doesn't read anything like this in the Gospel.

It's the kind of difference that alienates me from Coran, or Santa Klaus, and other Bisounours. It too, draws me near the Gospel, for the Passion of the Savior is a credible response to the sinning of mankind. At least, the Passion takes into account the reality of sin, and it doesn't looks to me like poetry

 

[Yarddog]

Thank you Alex,

My message was not for God, but for Allah. I believe, yes, God can kill. As for Allah, i was testing his existence

You might be careful because Arabic speaking Christians call God Allah, too

 

[Robban]

Sorry Robban.

This personification of stars all looks like to me like poetry, nice poetry.
One doesn't read anything like this in the Gospel.

It's the kind of difference that alienates me from Coran, or Santa Klaus, and other Bisounours. It too, draws me near the Gospel, for the Passion of the Savior is a credible response to the sinning of mankind. At least, the Passion takes into account the reality of sin, and it doesn't looks to me like poetry

Well. looks like i am a poet,

and did not know it.

 

[GentleGospeller]

You might be careful because Arabic speaking Christians call God Allah, too

Do they believe in three Allah's or one (singular, alone) "Allah"?

 

[Robban]

Sorry Robban.

This personification of stars all looks like to me like poetry, nice poetry.
One doesn't read anything like this in the Gospel.

It's the kind of difference that alienates me from Coran, or Santa Klaus, and other Bisounours. It too, draws me near the Gospel, for the Passion of the Savior is a credible response to the sinning of mankind. At least, the Passion takes into account the reality of sin, and it doesn't looks to me like poetry

 

[Robban]

Sorry Robban.

This personification of stars all looks like to me like poetry, nice poetry.
One doesn't read anything like this in the Gospel.

It's the kind of difference that alienates me from Coran, or Santa Klaus, and other Bisounours. It too, draws me near the Gospel, for the Passion of the Savior is a credible response to the sinning of mankind. At least, the Passion takes into account the reality of sin, and it doesn't looks to me like poetry

Heavenly logistics, just landed in my mail,

Whether or not the person understands ( words of Torah and Chassidic teaching) - the soul hears.

Rabbi DovBer of Lubavitch.

 

[dzheremi]

Do they believe in three Allah's or one (singular, alone) "Allah"?

Why would Arabic-speaking Christians have different theology than Christians who speak other languages?

Please, friend, do not make the mistake that many non-Arabic-speaking people do of thinking that Islam has some kind of proprietary control over or ownership of the Arabic language, or that Christianity as expressed in Arabic is somehow 'tainted' by Islamic theology. That's not the case at all. As I'm sure you know, Islam is the latest of the three major religions that claim to be monotheistic, and as such is theologically a non-entity with regard to Christianity. Arabs are specifically mentioned as one of the peoples who were present on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:11), and as such there is no doubt that Arab Christianity existed centuries before the invention of Islam.

 

[GentleGospeller]

Why would Arabic-speaking Christians have different theology than Christians who speak other languages?
...Arabs are specifically mentioned as one of the peoples who were present on the day of Pentecost (Acts 2:11), and as such there is no doubt that Arab Christianity existed centuries before the invention of Islam.

So you won't answer the question specifically?

Yes, Arabians were present. I see no mention of "allah" there (again Arabic for 'god' is "ilah'). I see the disciples speak of Jesus (JEHOVAH is my Salvation; I also find no 'Isa there, and I know that Arabic Bible uses Yeshua instead), Acts 2:21, the name of the LORD is not allah. It is JEHOVAH. Is JEHOVAH in the Arabic Bible?

How does your John 1:1 read in Arabic?

How many 'allah's' (اللَّهِ) are in it?

فِي الْبَدْءِ كَانَ الْكَلِمَةُ وَالْكَلِمَةُ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَكَانَ الْكَلِمَةُ اللَّهَ.

How about 2 Tim. 1:18, how many 'lord's' (الرَّ) are in it?

لِيُعْطِهِ الرَّبُّ أَنْ يَجِدَ رَحْمَةً مِنَ الرَّبِّ فِي ذَلِكَ الْيَوْمِ. وَكُلُّ مَا كَانَ يَخْدِمُ فِي أَفَسُسَ أَنْتَ تَعْرِفُهُ جَيِّداً.

 

[dzheremi]

So you won't answer the question specifically?

Yes, Arabians were present. I see no mention of "allah" there (again Arabic for 'god' is "ilah').

The difference between "Allah" and "ilah" is as I already explained it in another post: morphologically, "Allah" cannot take possessive markers, while "ilah" can. Semantically, since "Allah" is already definite, it is used for the supreme God, while "ilah" can be used for what we would call "the gods of the nations" (but note that, e.g., the relevant phrase in Deuteronomy 10:17 is translated as إِلهُ الآلِهَ ilahu el-aliha "God of Gods" -- this is, like in English, a conventionalized phrase). This has a direct corollary in my Church's traditional language (Coptic, where "Allah" is efnouti, while "ilah" is ninouti), so this is a distinction we were already making long before the Arabs conquered Egypt and changed its linguistic orientation. It doesn't actually have anything to do with Arabic but by the coincidence that both languages (which are only extremely distantly related -- Coptic is Afro-Asiatic, but not Semitic) already made this particular distinction between "the (supreme) God" and just "God".

I see the disciples speak of Jesus (JEHOVAH is my Salvation; I also find no 'Isa there, and I know that Arabic Bible uses Yeshua instead)

يسوع Yasou' is our Savior's personal name in Arabic, not Yeshua. Yeshu' would be يشوع, but that is more specifically the name Joshua (seemingly under the influence of Hebrew, as Arabic and Hebrew have this general correspondence where Arabic has س s where Hebrew has ش sh, e.g., ra'is vs. rosh "head", sana vs. shanah "year", lisan vs. lashon "tongue" or "language", etc.). 'Isa is specifically the Quran's name for Jesus, probably under the influence of the Eastern Syriac pronunciation of his name ('Isha). Jeffreys' classic "Foreign Vocabulary of the Qur'an" mentions in its entry on this name the presence of a monastery somewhere in the environs of Syria (IIRC) in the time before Muhammad that was known as "Isanaya" which may be evidence for it existing prior to the Qur'an (as the -naya ending would I believe just mark it as an adjective, as happens already in Eastern Syriac, e.g., Kaldaya "Chaldean", Alqoshnaya "inhabitant of Alqosh", etc.; the Western equivalent of this is -oyo, e.g., malkoyo "Chalcedonian/Imperial", Suryoyo "Syrian/Syriac", etc.).

, Acts 2:21, the name of the LORD is not allah. It is JEHOVAH. Is JEHOVAH in the Arabic Bible?

As I've already stated in this thread, "Allah" is not a name for Arabic-speaking Christians or Jews. Thinking of it as a proper name is purely an Islamic thing. As to the specific verse you are asking about, it is important to remember that just like how "Lord" and "God" are different words in English, they're different words in Arabic, too. "The Lord" is الرب al-rab in Arabic. This is transparently not related to "Allah" (it's a different root form).

How does your John 1:1 read in Arabic?

How many 'allah's' (اللَّهِ) are in it?

فِي الْبَدْءِ كَانَ الْكَلِمَةُ وَالْكَلِمَةُ كَانَ عِنْدَ اللَّهِ وَكَانَ الْكَلِمَةُ اللَّهَ.

One. I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Are you asking how many times the word "Allah" appears in the verse, or how many 'gods' it is referring to? Because the word "Allah" appears twice in the verse, but it appears twice in English (and I'm assuming every other language), too, so I don't know what that means to you.

How about 2 Tim. 1:18, how many 'allah's' (الرَّ) are in it?

لِيُعْطِهِ الرَّبُّ أَنْ يَجِدَ رَحْمَةً مِنَ الرَّبِّ فِي ذَلِكَ الْيَوْمِ. وَكُلُّ مَا كَانَ يَخْدِمُ فِي أَفَسُسَ أَنْتَ تَعْرِفُهُ جَيِّداً.

The word "Allah" does not appear in this verse, but "al-rab" does. Again, "God" and "Lord" are different words in both Arabic and English.

 

[Yarddog]

Do they believe in three Allah's or one (singular, alone) "Allah"?

They are Trinitarian Christians.

 

[peter2]

You might be careful because Arabic speaking Christians call God Allah, too

Yes, Jonaitis already told me on 27 July.
I adapted my speech accordingly few afterwards
Thank you, Yarddog

 

[peter2]

Well. looks like i am a poet,

and did not know it.

Glad it pleases you. I thought your sayings were all quotations from a muslim litterature. I have to apologize for mistaking both.
Here is it : Sorry!

 

[Robban]

Glad it pleases you. I thought your sayings were all quotations from a muslim litterature. I have to apologize for mistaking both.
Here is it : Sorry!

Yes ,it did please me, in fact I wrote in reply, "Your post gladdens my heart."

but did not submit it.

You seem to be a friendly person Pete.

 

[peter2]

Your post

did not submit

my heart

Fortunately! Otherwise, i wouldn't feel worthy of the following quotation, which pleases me as well

You seem to be a friendly person Pete.

 

[ImaginaryFiction]

Thank you Alex,

My message was not for God, but for Allah. I believe, yes, God can kill. As for Allah, i was testing his existence

He won't kill you. But his followers certainly will as evidenced by the disaster going on in the UK right now.

There they have roots and roving gangs of muslims attacking people.

But what is the government doing about? Arresting citizens, particularly white citizens, for posts made on Facebook saying they don't want violent illegals in their country.

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And the police there to protect the muslims, not protect the citizens.

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And the prime minister vowimg to punish people for being anti immigration.

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Meanwhile the muslims get to run around and freely harass and attack people.

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