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Joe67

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The "roots" of the religions of the "western half" of the world are in "Egyptian" thought and worship.

Their development/branches are in "Assyrian" thought and worship.

Their "fruit" is born through "Babylonian" thought and worship and as made manifest in the inferior processes of Persia, Greece and Rome.

The "eastern" religions, the children of Keturah to whom Abraham gave them gifts and sent them to the "east", think and worship from the inverted vision of God, as compared to the "western" vision.

Abraham became the father of "many" nations, through 3 mothers.

Isaac, who was born to Abraham and Sarah when their bodies were as good as dead, was the son of promise who gave birth to the "elect" son, who went to Egypt in weakness.

Ishmael, Abram's first born, was blessed of the Lord and became materially more powerful than Isaac.

Esau was blessed of God, through Isaac, and became materially more powerful than Jacob, and remained independent from Egypt during the famine.

What the Lord did in the outer man in that period, he is doing in our inward man during this period. The historical record is preserved to be an example to us concerning the work of the arm of the Lord in the world around us.

The "many" nations that were born through Abraham are now all active in the world and seeking to return unto their father.

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Love the pun.

Well I definitely would like to engage in those conversations. Sometimes I feel the need NOT to because the thread is so big my post might get ignored, but I don't want to start a NEW thread because I've already noticed many about the Sabbath as it is!

We may not always agree, but I promise not to ignore you! :) At the end of the day, if we disagree, I'm not motivated to change your mind. Rather, I learn a lot through the exchange of different ideas.

BFA
 
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Do you need clarification for my question? I would like an answer for your bold statement.

From k4c:
They all basically teach the same stuff that has it's roots in Babylon.

Them's fightin' words!

Please explain how the doctrine of the Morman church, and the Roman Catholic church, and the Assemblies of God, and the Reformed Church in America, and the Jehovah's Witness (to name a few) all teach the same stuff, as opposed to SDA'ism. And what is this Babylon stuff?
 
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Do you need clarification for my question? I would like an answer for your bold statement.

As I said, basically all denominations teach the same stuff.

Going to heaven or a burning hell at death.

Immortality of the soul.

Sunday worship in celebration of Jesus' resurrection.

Seventh day Sabbath changed to Sunday.

Seven years of tribulation.

Secret rapture.

Jesus' birth on December 25th.

Easter is the memorial of Jesus' resurrection.

Just to name a few.....
 
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As I said, basically all denominations teach the same stuff.

Going to heaven or a burning hell at death.

Immortality of the soul.

Sunday worship in celebration of Jesus' resurrection.

Seventh day Sabbath changed to Sunday.

Seven years of tribulation.

Secret rapture.

Jesus' birth on December 25th.

Easter is the memorial of Jesus' resurrection.

Just to name a few.....
Oh my. If you really want to know, I can help you take the first step. But most of the people you reference don't care about your list one way or the other.
 
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Except all demoninations don't teach that stuff, and I find it difficult to believe that you don't know that. Your assertation that my church teaches what I know it doesn't teach is personally offensive to me.
 
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Oh my. If you really want to know, I can help you take the first step. But most of the people you reference don't care about your list one way or the other.

Exactly... when a person suggests that they have "studied ALL" the other religions and have concluded that the sda church is the one with the "most" light, I know they are not being honest, not with others and not with themselves....
 
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Exactly... when a person suggests that they have "studied ALL" the other religions and have concluded that the sda church is the one with the "most" light, I know they are not being honest, not with others and not with themselves....

Show me where I'm wrong. Basically all denominations teach at least one or all of what I said.
 
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As I said, basically all denominations teach the same stuff.
Seventh day Sabbath changed to Sunday.
Seven years of tribulation.
Secret rapture.
Jesus' birth on December 25th.
Just to name a few.....

The Sabbath date has never been changed, the only thing that has changed was the need to keep one day holy and separate.

Lutherans (and other amilllenialists) do not believe in seven years of tribulation or a secret rapture. That would be dispensationalism. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Millennial_views.svg

It is impossible to know the exact date of Jesus' birth, however it makes sense to unify a date to celebrate his birth.

And SDA's memorialize Easter too....just on a day that Jesus obviously did not resurrect.
 
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Except all demoninations don't teach that stuff, and I find it difficult to believe that you don't know that. Your assertation that my church teaches what I know it doesn't teach is personally offensive to me.

Show me where I'm wrong. Basically all denominations teach at least one or all of what I said.
 
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Oh my. If you really want to know, I can help you take the first step. But most of the people you reference don't care about your list one way or the other.

Show me where I'm wrong. Basically all denominations teach at least one or all of what I said.
 
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The Sabbath date has never been changed, the only thing that has changed was the need to keep one day holy and separate.

Lutherans (and other amilllenialists) do not believe in seven years of tribulation or a secret rapture. That would be dispensationalism.

It is impossible to know the exact date of Jesus' birth, however it makes sense to unify a date to celebrate his birth.

And SDA's memorialize Easter too....just on a day that Jesus obviously did not resurrect.

Show me where I'm wrong. Basically all denominations teach at least one or all of what I said.
 
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You want counterexamples? Ok. Church of God, Seventh Day and virtually any church that originated from the old Worldwide Church of God. Actually, SDA's generally accept the "Babylonian" tradition of Friday crucifixion and Sunday ressurection, whereas these churches do not.
 
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You want counterexamples? Ok. Church of God, Seventh Day and virtually any church that originated from the old Worldwide Church of God. Actually, SDA's generally accept the "Babylonian" tradition of Friday crucifixion and Sunday ressurection, whereas these churches do not.

So what you're saying is that I'm right.
 
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You can be even more broad that all religions teach at least one of what you said. As I mentioned, even SDA teach at least one point so I don't see how the list has anything to do with roots in Babylon.

So what you're saying is that I'm right, all denomintaions teach at least one point. But the SDA has more light than the rest. Some teachings are secondary, whereas, other teachings effect our daily lives such as Sunday worship.
 
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1 Cor 13:8-11
8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

11 When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. KJV

Charity is the quality that is eternal. Prophesy, preaching/teaching and knowledge (humanism/humanitarianism/enviormentalism) are temporary.

Jewish ways of law and Greek wisdom of faith will vanish along with the tree that was in the beginning(humanism). God ordained all for their temporary usefulness.

The fruit of it all (the fruit of the spirit) is all that will be gathered into the storehouse of God.

Let us not think more highly of ourselves than we ought.

Joe
 
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