Matthew 4:11

[newbeliever02072005]

Hello,

I need help with a scripture. Matthew 4:11 -(NIV) Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.


Did the angels come at the end of the 40 days that Jesus was tempted or during?

 

[ZiSunka]

Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

Speaks for itself. He was tempted, satan couldn't prevail over him, satan left and the angels came to minister to him.

 

[Dmckay]

Speaks for itself. He was tempted, satan couldn't prevail over him, satan left and the angels came to minister to him.

Excellent response! Concise and to the point.

 

[newbeliever02072005]

Speaks for itself. He was tempted, satan couldn't prevail over him, satan left and the angels came to minister to him.

I know that this is probably a simple thing to understand. But I am new to all of this and understanding the bible is hard for me. I don't know if its cause I just read to much into and try to hard....or Im just thick headed...lol

Guess where I was going with this question was. If Jesus was ministered to by the angels during the 40 days. One of the temptions of Christ was to help himself. Since he didn't do that, Satan left....but then the angels came. Wouldn't that be considered help? if it was during the 40 days. Afterwards I could see him receiving the help, but not during.


Thank you for your patience with me

newbeliever

 

[ZiSunka]

One of the temptions of Christ was to help himself.

It says he went into the wilderness to fast and pray. He wasn't helping himself, although that wouldn't be a sin, he was relying on grace from God to help him through it.

 

[Brooding Maniac]

Satan offered the power of the world, all of the kingdoms. Jesus refused to do that, and instead relied on God's timing. Jesus is to be our King, regardless. He just didn't take it sooner. He is King of Kings, and Lord of Lords, but in God's impeccable timing. That is awesome, to me.

 

[SonOfThunder]

Hello


seems to me to be an order of events in Matthew.

Now look in Mark 1:13. this says Jesus was Tempted by satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered to him.

little different, but still and order of events.

ask yourself or look up what 'ministering' is? can it be just verbal? singing? is it tending? is it being bathed? is it being fed (well now, not in this case, and The Bible is clear on Jesus not eating and being hunry at the end of the 40 days)

Now look in Luke 4: 1-13 where there is a fuller picture of the same event. This one does not mention the angels but offers up information on what happened and when. I think you will agree Jesus suffered.

So, please tell me what you think ministering is? look it up and share with us.

James

 

[PapaLandShark]

Strong's says the word used for Minister in this particular scripture means this:

G1247

διακονέω

diakoneō

dee-ak-on-eh'-o

From G1249; to be an attendant, that is, wait upon (menially or as a host, friend or [figuratively] teacher); technically to act as a Christian deacon: - (ad-) minister (unto), serve, use the office of a deacon.


Interesting that it did not use this one:

G2023

ἐπιχορηγέω

epichorēgeō

ep-ee-khor-ayg-eh'-o

From G1909 and G5524; to furnish besides, that is, fully supply, (figuratively) aid or contribute: - add, minister (nourishment, unto).

 

[newbeliever02072005]

Hello


seems to me to be an order of events in Matthew.

Now look in Mark 1:13. this says Jesus was Tempted by satan; and was with the wild beasts; and the angels ministered to him.

little different, but still and order of events.

ask yourself or look up what 'ministering' is? can it be just verbal? singing? is it tending? is it being bathed? is it being fed (well now, not in this case, and The Bible is clear on Jesus not eating and being hunry at the end of the 40 days)

Now look in Luke 4: 1-13 where there is a fuller picture of the same event. This one does not mention the angels but offers up information on what happened and when. I think you will agree Jesus suffered.

So, please tell me what you think ministering is? look it up and share with us.

James

Ok, I think I am getting this. I guess I was missing the most important thing. That Jesus did NOT ask for help. He put His faith in God and because of that God took care of him during that 40 day period. God sent the angels to protect Jesus against harm...ie: the wild beasts. Ultimately it still was Jesus that suffered for His Heavenly Father.

Is that right???

Thanks,
newbeliever

 

[SonOfThunder]

Ok, I think I am getting this. I guess I was missing the most important thing. That Jesus did NOT ask for help. He put His faith in God and because of that God took care of him during that 40 day period. God sent the angels to protect Jesus against harm...ie: the wild beasts. Ultimately it still was Jesus that suffered for His Heavenly Father.

Is that right???

Thanks,
newbeliever

hi again

Your doing well

Papalandshark showed the two words from the Bible in relation to the word 'MINISTER" This is the word used in those passages.


From G1249; to be an attendant, that is, wait upon (menially or as a host, friend or [figuratively] teacher); technically to act as a Christian deacon: - (ad-) minister (unto), serve, use the office of a deacon.

So, what did the angels do? that we don't know. Did they just hang around like a friend or did they see off the wild beasts? We just don'd know that.

what we do know is this, another word for 'MINISTER' could have been used in that passage from the language of that day.

From G1909 and G5524; to furnish besides, that is, fully supply, (figuratively) aid or contribute: - add, minister (nourishment, unto).


It wasn't used, Jesus was NOT fully supplied, he did suffer temptations and hunger for that period of time in the wilderness.

Yes, you are right, Jesus suffered

Please just remember to pray before you read The Bible, just ask The Holy Spirit for understanding and The Bible will open up like it's 'alive'.

James

 

[Radagast]

I always thought the "ministering" was mostly emotional (if that is the right word).

Part of what was happening in the temptation was that Satan was offering Jesus an alternative to the Cross -- an easy alternative that wouldn't really work -- he was asking Jesus to "join forces" with him. Jesus knew how bad the Cross would be, and so the temptation was real (and stressful).

To understand this passage, also read Matthew 26:36-43, where Jesus prays "My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as You will."

After it was over, Jesus would have needed the fellowship of the angels. Think of how you would feel after making a really hard decision -- one where after mental agony you chose the more difficult option because it was the only right choice. Then multiply that feeling by 1,000,000.

-- Radagast

 

[newbeliever02072005]

Hello,

I need help with a scripture. Matthew 4:11 -(NIV) Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.


Did the angels come at the end of the 40 days that Jesus was tempted or during?

Hello Everyone,

I think I found my answer....did the angels come during or after Jesus being tempted? I was confused as to why God was allowing the angels to come and help Jesus during his temptation period. I went back and read again the section of the Temptation of Jesus. Matthew 4:1-11 . In verse 2 it says this:

AFTER fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry.

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I was totally missing the key word there...AFTER. Jesus did have his 40-day and 40-night temptation. BUT it was after when the devil came and tempted Jesus. In verse 10 it says:

Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' "

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Then in verse 11:

THEN the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.

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Ok, now I feel better Thank you everyone for listening and giving me your thoughts. I sure do enjoy hearing everyones comments.

God Bless you all!
newbeliever

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