Matthew 1:1

[Timothew]

...Are not chickens sold at the supermarket for a few dollars each?

I was camping two weeks ago and I cooked a whole chicken in a dutch oven in the coals. It turned out great.

 

[Radagast]

My wife doesn't like the phrase "without your father". Perhaps I should have put "without the assent of your father" or "without your father having them in mind."

The 1984 NIV has "apart from the will of your Father."

 

[he-man]

Matthew 10:27

ο λεγω υμιν εν τη σκοτια ειπατε εν τω φωτι και ο εις το ους ακουετε κηρυξατε επι των δωματων

that-which I-tell you-all in the darkness you-all-should-speak in the light and that-which in the ear you-all-hear you-all-should proclaim upon the roof-tops

The things I'm telling you guys in the darkness you should be speaking in the light, and the things that I'm whispering in your ear you should be shouting from the roof tops.

Mat 10:27 ο λεγω υμιν εν τη σκοτια ειπατε εν τω φωτι και ο εις το ους ακουετε κηρυξατε επι των δωματων

Mat 10:27 What I tell you in darkness, speak in the light: and what in the ear you hear, proclaim towards the bedchamber.

Note: No need to shout on a roof to wake someone up because the bedchamber is where people usually sleep for the night or relax during the day and are the ones sleeping who have need of awakening..

 

[he-man]

Matthew 10:28

και μη φοβεισθε απο των αποκτενοντων το σωμα την δε ψυχην μη δυναμενων αποκτειναι φοβηθητε δε μαλλον τον δυναμενον και [την] ψυχην και [το] σωμα απολεσαι εν γεεννη

and don't fear because-of those they-kill the body the but psyche not can kill you-should-fear but more the can and the psyche and the body destroy in Gehenna

Don't fear those that kill the body but cannot kill the psyche, you should fear more someone who can destroy both the psyche and the body in Gehenna.

Mat 10:28 και μη φοβεισθε απο των αποκτεννοντων το σωμα την δε ψυχην μη δυναμενων αποκτειναι φοβεισθε δε μαλλον τον δυναμενον και ψυχην και σωμα απολεσαι εν γεεννη

Mat 10:28 And do not respect those of which dehumanize the body, but of the spirit are not able to dehumanize : but rather Him who has the binding power to render useless both spirit and body in gehenna.

 

[he-man]

Matthew 10:29

ουχι δυο στρουθια ασσαριου πωλειται και εν εξ αυτων ου πεσειται επι την γην ανευ του πατρος υμων

are-not two sparrows assarion sold and one of them not will-fall to the ground without the father your

Are not two sparrows sold for a dime? Not one of them will fall to the ground without your father.

ἀσσάριον
a small coin equal to the tenth part of a drachma.
dime
a small coin equal to the tenth part of a dollar.

NIV and others have "penny". Hot cross buns are sold two-a-penny. Sparrows are not buns, I think sparrows sell two for a dime.

Sorry but sparrows are not worth anything of monetary value and were not sold nor could they be peddled for anything. The pun is that even though they are of no value as food they are of value to God because He made them!
Mat 10:29 ουχι δυο στρουθια ασσαριου πωλειται και εν εξ αυτων ου επι την γην ανευ του πατρος υμων

Mat 10:29 Not ever are two sparrows peddled for a sesterce? and not one of them shall fall out on the earth without your Father.

sesterce an ancient Roman coin and monetary unit equal to one quarter of a denarius from L. sestertius (nummus) '(coin) that is two and a half (donkeys)'.
© Oxford University Press, 2004

 

[Timothew]

Matthew 10:30

υμων δε και αι τριχες της κεφαλης πασαι ηριθμημεναι εισιν

your but and the the hairs the head all numbered are

And also, all of the hairs on your head are numbered.

 

[he-man]

Matthew 10:30

υμων δε και αι τριχες της κεφαλης πασαι ηριθμημεναι εισιν

your but and the the hairs the head all numbered are

And also, all of the hairs on your head are numbered.

Mat 10:30 υμων δε και αι τριχες της κεφαλης πασαι ηριθμημεναι εισιν

Mat 10:30 And the hairs of your head are also everyone numbered.

 

[Radagast]

proclaim towards the bedchamber.

Word usage makes it clear that δῶμα means "housetop," since one goes down from it into the house (e.g. Mat 24:17, Luk 5:19).

And do not respect those of which dehumanize the body

ἀποκτείνω means "kill"

Not ever are two sparrows peddled for a sesterce?

The word is assarion in the text. That's 1/16 denarius. And they're worth exactly that much in of monetary value.

 

[he-man]

Word usage makes it clear that δῶμα means "housetop," since one goes down from it into the house (e.g. Mat 24:17, Luk 5:19).

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]δώμα chamber, room, hall, archaic bedchamber [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]Hom., Trag.: part of a house, the chief room, hall, (Middle Liddell) also, chief room, hall, (LSJ) Henry George Liddell. Robert Scott. A Greek-English Lexicon.[/FONT][/FONT]
chamber ▶ noun

(archaic) we slept safely in our chamber: BEDROOM, room; poetic/literary bower; historical boudoir; archaic bedchamber.

a debating chamber: ROOM, hall, assembly room, auditorium.
© Oxford University Press 1995, 2002

ἀποκτείνω means "kill"

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]αποκτανθηναι αποκτηνώνω brutalize, dehumanize [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]or dehumanise ■ verb deprive of positive human qualities. [/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]

dehumanization noun [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]brutalize or brutalise ■ verb

make brutal by repeated exposure to violence.

treat brutally.

brutalization noun © Oxford University Press, 2004
to weary to death, (LSJ) Henry George Liddell. Robert Scott. A Greek-English Lexicon.
.answers.com/topic/dehumanize - brutalisieren, brutal behandeln, Ελληνική (Greek) v. - αποκτηνώνωEnglish (D) to Greek
dehumanise, = αποκτηνώνω. English (D) to Greek
Webster's Online Dictionary - Browse - 50k - Webster's Online Dictionary - Greek dehumanise, = αποκτηνώνω [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]

The word is assarion in the text. That's 1/16 denarius. And they're worth exactly that much in of monetary value.

The word is ασσάριο sesterce an ancient Roman coin and monetary unit equal to one quarter of a denarius. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]from L. sestertius (nummus) '(coin) that is two and a half (donkeys)'. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]© Oxford University Press, 2004[/FONT][/FONT]
Your problem is the word farthing and you also missed the word [FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]ουχι oxi no from πe ‘not’ plus ό, a ‘ever’[/FONT][/FONT]
Mat 10:29 Not ever are two sparrows sold for a farthing

farthing ■ noun

a former monetary unit and coin of the UK, equal to a quarter of an old penny.

[usu. with negative] the least possible amount.

OE fēorthing, from fēortha 'fourth', perh. on the pattern of ON fjórthungr 'quarter'. © Oxford University Press, 2004

 

[Radagast]

he-man,

1) an assarion or as was a Roman coin, originally a tenth of a denarius (that's what denarius means) but revalued at a sixteenth around 140 BC.

2) ἀποκτείνω means "kill." You've confused it with a different word in modern Greek.

3) according to the LSJ, δῶμα means "housetop" in Biblical usage. See also Thayer. Other NT usage makes the meaning clear.

4) ουχι marks a question with the expected answer "yes." A good translation is "Are not ...?"

 

[Timothew]

Thanks for the discussion guys!

It's like watching a heavyweight world championship boxing match.

 

[Timothew]

Matthew 10:31

μη ουν φοβηθητε πολλων στρουθιων διαφερετε υμεις

not then you-fear many sparrows you-are-different-than you-all

So don't fear, you are not the same as many sparrows.
So no fears then, you aren't a flock of sparrows!

διαφέρετε - carry-through?
I went to Liddell's third definition to make sense of this verse.

 

[Radagast]

διαφέρετε - carry-through?
I went to Liddell's third definition to make sense of this verse.

Yeah. Used intransitively it means "to differ," and is used that way several times in the NT.

Used transitively, it usually means "to carry (something) through" (e.g. Act 13:49).

 

[he-man]

he-man,1) an assarion or as was a Roman coin, originally a tenth of a denarius (that's what denarius means) but revalued at a sixteenth around 140 BC.

An assarion would be one cent and five mills or three farthings sterling. The word is ασσάριο sesterce an ancient Roman coin and monetary unit equal to one quarter of a denarius.

from L. sestertius (nummus) '(coin) that is two and a half (donkeys)'.
© Oxford University Press, 2004
Your problem is the word farthing Mat 10:29 Not ever are two sparrows sold for a farthing■ noun

a former monetary unit and coin of the UK, equal to a quarter of an old penny.

[usu. with negative] the least possible amount.

OE fēorthing, from fēortha 'fourth', perh. on the pattern

2) ἀποκτείνω means "kill." You've confused it with a different word in modern Greek.

Thank you! Yes, you are correct, I had the wrong word. The word is αποκτεννοντω a stronger form of κτείνω, kill, slay 2. of judges, condemn to death, Antipho 5.92, Pl.Ap.30d sq., etc.; also of the accuser, And.4.37, X.HG2.3.21, Th.6.61; put to death, Hdt.6.4: generally of the law, Pl.Prt. 325b. Henry George Liddell. Robert Scott. A Greek-English Lexicon

3) according to the LSJ, δῶμα means "housetop" in Biblical usage. See also Thayer. Other NT usage makes the meaning clear.

δώματα chamber, room, hall, archaic bedchamber Hom., Trag.: part of a house, the chief room, hall, (Middle Liddell) also, chief room, hall, (LSJ) Henry George Liddell. Robert Scott. A Greek-English Lexicon.
chamber ▶ noun

(archaic) we slept safely in our chamber: BEDROOM, room; poetic/literary bower; historical boudoir; archaic bedchamber.

a debating chamber: ROOM, hall, assembly room, auditorium.
© Oxford University Press 1995, 2002

4) ουχι marks a question with the expected answer "yes." A good translation is "Are not ...?"

you missed the word ουχι oxi no from πe ‘not’ plus ό, a ‘ever’ Sparrows were not sold at all and had no material value.
Mat 10:29 Not ever are two sparrows sold for a farthing

 

[he-man]

Matthew 10:31

μη ουν φοβηθητε πολλων στρουθιων διαφερετε υμεις

not then you-fear many sparrows you-are-different-than you-all

So don't fear, you are not the same as many sparrows.
So no fears then, you aren't a flock of sparrows!

διαφέρετε - carry-through?
I went to Liddell's third definition to make sense of this verse.

διαφέρω contrast, vary, differ, differentiate
Try the word differ!
Mat 10:31 μη ουν φοβεισθε πολλων στρουθιων διαφερετε υμεις

Mat 10:31 Therefore do not be afraid, for you differ considerably from sparrows.

 

[Radagast]

he-man, an assarion is not a sesterce.

Let me also suggest that you see what LSJ actually says about δῶμα in Biblical usage, and check a grammar book for the use of ουχι and μή in questions.

 

[Timothew]

Matthew 10:32

πας ουν οστις ομολογησει εν εμοι εμπροσθεν των ανθρωπων ομολογησω καγω εν αυτω εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις

all then who will-speak-the-same in me before the people I-will-speak-the-same and-I in him before the father my the in heavens

All who stand with me before men, I will stand with him before my father in the heavens.

ομολογησει?
ομολογησω?

 

[he-man]

Matthew 10:32

πας ουν οστις ομολογησει εν εμοι εμπροσθεν των ανθρωπων ομολογησω καγω εν αυτω εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις

all then who will-speak-the-same in me before the people I-will-speak-the-same and-I in him before the father my the in heavens

All who stand with me before men, I will stand with him before my father in the heavens.

ομολογησει?
ομολογησω?

Mat 10:32 πας ουν οστις ομολογησει εν εμοι εμπροσθεν των ανθρωπων ομολογησω καγω εν αυτω εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν τοις ουρανοις

Mat 10:32 Therefore all who shall acknowledge me before men, him will I acknowledge also in me, in the presence of the Father of me, which is in the heavens.

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]ομολογώ acknowledge, admit, avow, come clean, confess, own, profess[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif][FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]ὁμολογήσει verb: 3rd person future active indicative singular
ὁμολογήσω verb: 1st person future active indicative singular [/FONT][/FONT]

 

[Radagast]

Matthew 10:32

πας ουν οστις ομολογησει εν εμοι εμπροσθεν των ανθρωπων ομολογησω καγω εν αυτω εμπροσθεν του πατρος μου του εν ουρανοις

all then who will-speak-the-same in me before the people I-will-speak-the-same and-I in him before the father my the in heavens

All who stand with me before men, I will stand with him before my father in the heavens.

ομολογησει?
ομολογησω?

The ESV has: So everyone who acknowledges me before men, I also will acknowledge before my Father who is in heaven

The verb is ὁμολογέω, the meaning of which, according to LSJ, includes "agree to a thing," "acknowledge," and "confess." Here it is being used in the future tense, hence the σ in the ending.

I believe that, as you surmise, the verb is derived from "speak" and "the same."

Other NT uses include:

John 1:20: He confessed ὡμολόγησεν (aorist), and did not deny, but confessed ὡμολόγησεν (aorist), “I am not the Christ.”

John 12:42: Nevertheless, many even of the authorities believed in him, but for fear of the Pharisees they did not confess ὡμολόγουν (imperfect) it, so that they would not be put out of the synagogue;

Acts 23:8 For the Sadducees say that there is no resurrection, nor angel, nor spirit, but the Pharisees acknowledge ὁμολογοῦσιν (present) them all.

Notice the lengthened initial vowel in the two forms of past tense, btw.

 

[he-man]

Let me also suggest that you see what LSJ actually says about δῶμα in Biblical usage,

First of all the word is δώματα chamber, room, hall, archaic bedchamber Hom., Trag.: part of a house, the chief room, hall, (Middle Liddell) also, chief room, hall, (LSJ) Henry George Liddell. Robert Scott. A Greek-English Lexicon.
chamber ▶ noun

(archaic) we slept safely in our chamber: BEDROOM, room; poetic/literary bower; historical boudoir; archaic bedchamber.

a debating chamber: ROOM, hall, assembly room, auditorium.
© Oxford University Press 1995, 2002

and check a grammar book for the use of ουχι and μή in questions

Blass & Debrunner cited the two rhetorical questions in Lk. 6:39 to illustrate the difference between μή and οὐ in questions. οὐ (...often οὐχ&#8055 when an affirmative answer is expected, μή when a negative one is expected. Thus Lk 6:39 μήτι δύναται τυφλὸς τυφλὸν ὁδηγεῖν; ('A
blind man can't lead a blind man, can he?' Answer: 'Certainly not'); οὐχὶ
ἀμφότεροι εἰς βόθυνον ἐμπεσοῦνται; (Answer: 'Of course') (A Greek
Grammar of the New Testament and Other Early Christian Literature, p. 220, §
427.)
In connection with this point, consider again the question in 1 Cor. 14:23: οὐκ ἐροῦσιν
ὅτι μαίνεσθε; The expected response is, "Of course they will!"
οὐχὶ Why not? no, nay, not so
Undergraduate Course of a Collegiate Education by Rev John Groves A Greek and English Dictionary

he-man, an

assarion is not a sesterce. denarius means)

It is not DENARIUS and An assarion would be one cent and five mills or three farthings sterling. The word is ασσάριο sesterce an ancient Roman coin and monetary unit equal to one quarter of a denarius.

from L. sestertius (nummus) '(coin) that is two and a half (donkeys)'.
© Oxford University Press, 2004 Your problem is the word farthing

[usu. with negative] the least possible amount.

OE fēorthing, from fēortha 'fourth', perh. on the pattern