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και ιδου εκραξαν λεγοντες τι ημιν και σοι υιε του θεου ηλθες ωδε προ καιρου βασανισαι ημαςMatthew 8:29
και ιδου εκραξαν λεγοντες τι ημιν και σοι ιησου υιε του θεου ηλθες ωδε προ καιρου βασανισαι ημας
And seeing called-out saying what us and you Jesus son the God come here before season examine us
When they saw him they called out, "What is between us and you, Jesus - Son of God? Have you come here before the time to examine us?"
And lo, he cried and said, "And what is it to you, the Son of God, to come in this place, before the time to destroy us"
Rather, I think they were afraid of the refiners fire! They were mind altering spirits that possessed him, because Mark says:I have to explain βασανίσαι and why I translated as I did, since this is a proof-text verse for people who want to discover that God will torment people.
βασανίζω is usually translated torment. Strong's short definition for basanizo is "I torment, torture, buffet." Looking deeper at basanizo shows "I examine, as by torture; I torment; I buffet, as of waves." from basanos, of Oriental origin - a touchstone (a dark stone used in testing metals), hence examination by torture, torture.
But is torture really indicated by basanos? Does anyone torture metals when they test them with a touchstone? No, metal can't be tortured. So the idea of examining by torture is out, but the idea of examining something to determine it's quality remains. So I take from this that basanizo means "I examine" as if I am a judge or a detective examining a crime scene finding facts. This is what the demoniacs were afraid of, they didn't want the facts to come out. They knew they were guilty.
restore to me, a spiritual frame of mind, 0 Son of God, of the highest? Beg your God, not to test my purity."
For he had said to him, "Come out verminous spirit out of the man".
Mal 3:2 But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like washed with alkali [white washed]
Rev 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried out of the fire, that thou mayest be enriched; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see.
πεπυρωμένον ἐκ πορὸς tried out of the fire
Heb 9:4 Which had the golden incense-altar, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant;
On the day of atonement, the incense-altar, like the most holy place, was sprinkled with blood.
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