Mattell makes Wiccan Barbie - Is this right?

Avenger21 · Oct 21, 2003

You are nuts! do you really think the corporate leaders of the barbie company are trying to get young girls to practice witchcraft. My mother is pagan and i'm as christian as jesus was! I don' t have a problem with witchcraft. Most of its users use the power for good and not for evil! My mother also doesn't go around telling people to practice witchcraft. before you criticize its users you should find out more about other religions!

tulc · Oct 21, 2003

Hey Avenger21 welcome to CF! Have fun but this "You are nuts!" is a little rude, now if you don't agree then just say you don't agree, but lets not fall into name calling (at least not until you've been here for a while! ) Anyway welcome and be blessed!
tulc

Havoc · Oct 21, 2003

Even if there is a "Wiccan Barbie"... so what?

There are thousands of Christian toys out there, why can't we have toys for our children that identify with our religion?

If you don't like it... don't buy it. Apparently there's enough of the buying public out there that doesn't have a problem with it that Mattel thinks it won't hurt sales and will make a profit. Despite what you choose to believe it's not hurting anyone, especially not you if you exercise your right not to buy it.

Mylinkay Asdara · Oct 22, 2003

May I just add, as a final note from me on this I think, that toys are toys? They are toys. There are millions and millions out there. Most of them, we've never even heard of. Half of them we'd probably say are stupid. Barbie is stupid. Her whole line of dolls (wether you love 'em or hate 'em) serve no real purpose. They're not going to be a source of religious revolution in children. Ever. To even think such a think denotes (to me) a total lack of perspective.

If the world is finding time to debate the spiritual impact of Barbie (and only one doll in a line that streches probably around the globe several times if we bothered to line them up) then we simply (myself included) have way too much time on our hands.

BarbB · Oct 22, 2003

Avenger21 said:
You are nuts! do you really think the corporate leaders of the barbie company are trying to get young girls to practice witchcraft. My mother is pagan and i'm as christian as jesus was! I don' t have a problem with witchcraft. Most of its users use the power for good and not for evil! My mother also doesn't go around telling people to practice witchcraft. before you criticize its users you should find out more about other religions!

Hmmmm - Jesus had a problem with witchcraft!

GALATIONS 5:19 The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; [20] idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions [21] and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.

That said, Welcome to CF!

Havoc · Oct 22, 2003

Jesus never mentioned Witchcraft. Neither does your Bible until King James put it in there.

Pete Harcoff · Oct 22, 2003

newlamb said:
Hmmmm - Jesus had a problem with witchcraft!

Except this doll has nothing to do with real witchcraft.

kdet · Oct 22, 2003

Havoc said:
Even if there is a "Wiccan Barbie"... so what?

There are thousands of Christian toys out there, why can't we have toys for our children that identify with our religion?

If you don't like it... don't buy it. Apparently there's enough of the buying public out there that doesn't have a problem with it that Mattel thinks it won't hurt sales and will make a profit. Despite what you choose to believe it's not hurting anyone, especially not you if you exercise your right not to buy it.

1000's of Christian toys???? Can you give me an example please?

No gods · Oct 22, 2003

Sure, when my son was little he had a toy nativity set. It was put out by Avon, I think. Oh, he also had the tupperware Noah's ark toy set. That is two off the top of my head.

notto · Oct 22, 2003

No gods · Oct 22, 2003

Fisher Price puts out a Noah's ark toy set. Well, I guess I'll never buy another Fisher Price toy. and I'll box up all my son's old Fisher Price toys and send them back to the company with a letter explaining that I detest their pandering to christians.... Or maybe I won't, cuz that would be silly.

kdet · Oct 22, 2003

Ok so veggie tales a nativity set and a noah's ark.
So that adds up to 1000's???
I really think most toys are non- religious in nature. I'd also bet that those of you defending Wiccan Barbie would be upset if a Christian Barbie was introduced.
We would hear cries of how unfair that is and how toys should be non-religious and how that other religions aren't being represented.

Mylinkay Asdara · Oct 22, 2003

No, you wouldn't, because we (non believers) are already bombarded by Christianity every day. It's not new. You can't flip channels on a Sunday and not come accross at least 5 Christian programs (giving mass, discussion of the Bible and so on) Radio too. Look-get over the persecussion complex because it just isn't so.

Pete Harcoff · Oct 22, 2003

sweetkitty said:
Ok so veggie tales a nativity set and a noah's ark.
So that adds up to 1000's???

Let's not forget the Bibleman action figures.

(But I agree, 1000's seems like an over-exaggeration. Point is, though, there are Christian toys and I don't see too many people clamoring to have those axed.)

I really think most toys are non- religious in nature. I'd also bet that those of you defending Wiccan Barbie would be upset if a Christian Barbie was introduced.

I doubt it, especially since this "Wiccan" Barbie isn't really a Wiccan Barbie.

No gods · Oct 22, 2003

sweetkitty said:
1000's of Christian toys???? Can you give me an example please?

sweetkitty said:
Ok so veggie tales a nativity set and a noah's ark.
So that adds up to 1000's???

You asked for AN example which generally translates to one example, we gave at least 4 (but there are a lot of veggie tales toys, so that really adds up to more than 4). Go to google or yahoo and search on christian toys and see what comes up, there are HUNDREDS of sites selling christian toys, games, puzzles, etc.

sweetkitty said:
I really think most toys are non- religious in nature.

I pretty much agree.

sweetkitty said:
I'd also bet that those of you defending Wiccan Barbie would be upset if a Christian Barbie was introduced.
We would hear cries of how unfair that is and how toys should be non-religious and how that other religions aren't being represented.

Are we protesting the religious toys now being made? Why would that change if it was a Barbie? FIsher-Price is a huge toy manufacturer, if they are making religious toys, why can't Mattel?

Kelly · Oct 22, 2003

Why can't we just agree that the toys have the right to exist and we have the right to decide whether or not they are right for our homes?

Mylinkay Asdara · Oct 22, 2003

Why can't we just agree that the toys have the right to exist and we have the right to decide whether or not they are right for our homes?

That is the great mystery.

notto · Oct 22, 2003

Holiday Angel Barbie

Pete Harcoff · Oct 22, 2003

Kelly said:
Why can't we just agree that the toys have the right to exist and we have the right to decide whether or not they are right for our homes?

For the same reason that a couple people sued McDonald's because they got fat eating their food. Some people just don't like taking responsibility, I guess...

Plan 9 · Oct 22, 2003

Kelly said:
Why can't we just agree that the toys have the right to exist and we have the right to decide whether or not they are right for our homes?

Beats me, Kelly.

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