Mar 22: they are at it again

[Bethwhite]

There you have it folks!

Bethswhite's understanding of eschatology is superior to the men who walked and talked with Jesus.

Yeah, did they see the revival of the state of Israel in 1947 while they walked and talked with Jesus? No.

It's as if you don't understand that we are STILL walking and talking with Jesus!

Daniel 12:9 He replied, “Go your way, Daniel, because the words are rolled up and sealed until the time of the end. 10 Many will be purified, made spotless and refined, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but those who are wise will understand.

 

[Bethwhite]

2Pe 3:8 does not mean that every time a day is mentioned a thousand years is inferred. Therein lies your false interpretation.

And therein lies your inability to discern when the word "day" means 24 hours or the word "day" means 1000 years.

Hosea 6's "day" means 1000 years.

Jesus said Israel would be desolated until they say, "blessed is he who COMES in the name of the Lord". (Matt 24)

It's been 2 days and Israel was revived. They will be restored on the 3rd day, as prophesied.

 

[PreachingChristCrucified]

Hosea 6's "day" means 1000 years.

No, it doesn't. Day means Day. Your false interpretation of this is causing you to build an entirely false doctrine built on sand.

 

[Bethwhite]

No, it doesn't. Day means Day. Your false interpretation of this is causing you to build an entirely false doctrine built on sand.

We'll find out this Spring or next Spring.

Jesus appears in the Spring for the church and seals 144,000 of Israel, comes on the clouds in the Fall.

His presence is "on the 3rd day".

Hosea 6:“Come, let us return to the Lord.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.
3 Let us acknowledge the Lord;
let us press on to acknowledge him.
As surely as the sun rises,
he will appear;
he will come to us like the winter rains,
like the spring rains that water the earth.”

 

[PreachingChristCrucified]

We'll find out this Spring or next Spring.

Jesus appears in the Spring for the church and seals 144,000 of Israel, comes on the clouds in the Fall.

LOL, now that's funny. Let me guess Bigfoot has him right now and he's hiding him in the wilderness.

 

[Bethwhite]

LOL, now that's funny. Let me guess Bigfoot has him right now and he's hiding him in the wilderness.

No, He's in heaven right now, with God, not Bigfoot.

Act 3:21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

 

[PreachingChristCrucified]

We'll find out this Spring or next Spring.

Well there you go folks she's nailed it down to this Spring or next. I guess we will find out soon if this is a false prophecy.

 

[Bethwhite]

Well there you go folks she's nailed it down to this Spring or next. I guess we will find out soon if this is a false prophecy.

Yes, indeed.

 

[ebedmelech]

We'll find out this Spring or next Spring.

Jesus appears in the Spring for the church and seals 144,000 of Israel, comes on the clouds in the Fall.

His presence is "on the 3rd day".

Hosea 6:“Come, let us return to the Lord.
He has torn us to pieces
but he will heal us;
he has injured us
but he will bind up our wounds.
2 After two days he will revive us;
on the third day he will restore us,
that we may live in his presence.
3 Let us acknowledge the Lord;
let us press on to acknowledge him.
As surely as the sun rises,
he will appear;
he will come to us like the winter rains,
like the spring rains that water the earth.”

Beth, that is terrible interpretation of Hosea!

First...the setting of Hosea 1:1 tells you a whole lot about what's going on at the time of his prophecy:
The word of the Lord which came to Hosea the son of Beeri, during the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and during the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel.

The Lord is about to prophecy the captivity of Judah and Israel. Hosea will be God's mouthpiece. If you simply follow what Hosea says you can clearly see that this is the restoration of Judah and Israel to the land before the coming of Christ.

Do you not realize Hosea 6 speaks to the captivity of Israel by Assyria and the captivity of Judah by Babylon? It even tells you as much at Hosea 6:5:
5 Therefore I have hewn them in pieces by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of My mouth; And the judgments on you are like the light that goes forth.

Those "judgments" are their captivity Beth. God is speaking of Israel and Judah there. He then speaks of restoring them to the land in chapter 7.

I think you're forcing an interpretation onto Hosea 6:1-3, it's not what you're saying. It's definitely the coming of Christ...but it's His coming as their Messiah with the gospel...that is your "spring rain".

 

[Bethwhite]

Beth, that is terrible interpretation of Hosea!

First...the setting of Hosea 1:1 tells you a whole lot about what's going on at the time of his prophecy:
The word of the Lord which came to Hosea the son of Beeri, during the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz and Hezekiah, kings of Judah, and during the days of Jeroboam the son of Joash, king of Israel.

The Lord is about to prophecy the captivity of Judah and Israel. Hosea will be God's mouthpiece. If you simply follow what Hosea says you can clearly see that this is the restoration of Judah and Israel to the land before the coming of Christ.

Do you not realize Hosea 6 speaks to the captivity of Israel by Assyria and the captivity of Judah by Babylon? It even tells you as much at Hosea 6:5:
5 Therefore I have hewn them in pieces by the prophets; I have slain them by the words of My mouth; And the judgments on you are like the light that goes forth.

Those "judgments" are their captivity Beth. God is speaking of Israel and Judah there. He then speaks of restoring them to the land in chapter 7.

I think you're forcing an interpretation onto Hosea 6:1-3, it's not what you're saying. It's definitely the coming of Christ...but it's His coming as their Messiah with the gospel...that is your "spring rain".

Oh, I see, so you're saying that "Judah and Israel" were revived after an actual TWO days (48 hours), restored on an actual THIRD day and were living in the presence of God after Christ had appeared and come back in the days of Hosea.

LOL!

Act 3:21 Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything, as he promised long ago through his holy prophets

Matt 23:37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing.
38Look, your house is left to you desolate.
39 For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

 

[Jipsah]

Is the return of the Lord so scary for you because of the way you are leading your life?

Why would the idea of the coming of the Lord be any scarier than the knowledge that we're going to die? Or maybe that's the trick, date setters can't face the certainty that they're going to die, and that dying is all too often a messy and painful process, so they know that the Lord is gonna return and spare them the disgusting necessity of assuming room temperature. How many of y'all have I heard say some variation on "I rejoice that I will live to see our Savior return." because they can't cope with the idea that they'll meet the Lord not through a deus ex machina departure from this vale of tears, but as a result of a car wreck or a cancer or a heart attack, or similarly icky departure.

It's like the old song says, "everybody wants to get to Heaven but nobody wants to die". The Lord just has to get here soon, or else I'll die, and that can't be allowed!

 

[Jipsah]

Yes, there is.

Knight-jump exegesis, wholesale eisegesis, and wishful thinking don't constitute evidence of anything at all.

 

[Jipsah]

Gee, this is an ESCHATOLOGY forum and we're discussing ESCHATOLOGY!

Imaginary Eschatology, to be precise. As what doesn't occur on 22 March will illustrate quite nicely.

 

[Jipsah]

I'm going to stick with God

Nemmind what the Bible says, what it really means is...". Right?

 

[Jipsah]

And therein lies your inability to discern when the word "day" means 24 hours or the word "day" means 1000 years.

But if you're to he consistent, where the Bible says "1000 years", then it Really Means one day, right? Unless you're only observing the bit of that Scripture that suits you.

Hosea 6's "day" means 1000 years.

Sure. After all, we have your word for it.

 

[Bethwhite]

But if you're to he consistent, where the Bible says "1000 years", then it Really Means one day, right? Unless you're only observing the bit of that Scripture that suits you.

Sure. After all, we have your word for it.

How many years has it been since the fall of man?

 

[Hockey_Fan]

Several people here are banking on Mar 22. Be careful, people. It has been tried so many times for so many 'biblical-logical' reasons and caused so many tumbles. WHere is the masters command to know, find and compute an exact day?

--INTer

To borrow a line from the late Ronald Reagan.... "there you go again".

 

[Steve Petersen]

Early LAST March, there were crazies making prediction about a mega-quake.

Didn't happen.

Skull and bones prophecy for March 22, 2012: Didn't happen.

 

[Gnarwhal]

Early LAST March, there were crazies making prediction about a mega-quake.

Didn't happen.

Skull and bones prophecy for March 22, 2012: Didn't happen.

Yep. People need to be held accountable for their ludicrous actions. Unfortunately the anonymity of the Internet allows all of the lunatics to come out of the woodwork, postulate their bizarre personal interpretations and then run away without a trace of regret for engaging in heresy.

 

[pgp_protector]

I saw that earlier today. Obviously another sign to "look up" for our redemption draws nigh. And I guess it's just a coincidence that this one is coming on a Sabbath too? No it's not.

Come Lord Jesus
Marantha

Yes, what are the odds of something happening on the Sabbath, those odds must be astronomical !!! oh wait that's right they're not astronomical, it's one in seven