Man held in anti-Muslim stabbing.

[DesertSky]

Yeah. Bet you wouldn't be saying that if it was a Christian attacked by a Muslim; you'd be all over that one.

All-knowing are we? Wow, you're good.

 

[Jonathan David]

Actually, I don't know why this is not a terrorist act. He deliberately targeted a civilian to express his political views and, I imagine, to contribute to the chill that is going on. Isn't that terrorism?

 

[SithDoughnut]

If only everyone on both sides would stop overreacting...

 

[Yusuf Evans]

You dont know every Christian in the world do you?, nobody in my Church or the surrounded Churches thinks that "all muslims are rabid muderours" and they would comdenm at attack on anybody.

I have been speaking about people in the United States, not the UK. I don't know what goes on in the UK as I do not live there; I only know what I have experienced from Americans and from what I see on the American media front. American have a general distrust of Muslims and the hatred that seems to be creeping from that distrust is being fanned by the politicians.

 

[nolongerhome]

From reading about this attack it seemed quite vicious and the victim was targeted because of their religion, and it is pretty distrurbing to think that that happens. Hopefully the victim pulls through it. If the guy is not up for assault and attempted murder charges something has either gone very wrong or the story we are aware of up to this point is wrong.

I don't really like hate crime legislation, though, because of the rather arbitrary nature by which crimes become considered hate crimes (or not). Violence against others should not be tolerated, whatever the motive behind it is. Each case should be considered on its own merits, and in doing so the particular motive of the case will naturally be considered, both when determining guilt and when determining sentences. I'm not really sure what hate crimes legislation adds to existing legal institutions.

 

[Yusuf Evans]

All-knowing are we? Wow, you're good.

Based on your posts concerning Islam and Muslims, yeah I took a pretty good guess at it.

 

[nolongerhome]

Based on your posts concerning Islam and Muslims, yeah I took a pretty good guess at it.

It wasn't a good guess. I recall that he has posted about disliking hate crime legislation in a variety of contexts before.

 

[USincognito]

All-knowing are we? Wow, you're good.

I'm not, but I'm still going to predict we're going to see more attacks like this in the future.

The Indian restaurant I used to live near is owned by observant Sikhs and they did everything short of call the chutney "Freedom Dip" and Palak Gosht "Patriot Stew" after 9/11 to let everyone know they weren't Muslims despite being swarthy, having an accent and wearing turbans.

 

[LightHorseman]

Man Held in Anti-Muslim Stabbing of Cabby in New York - NYTimes.com

Wonder if this has to do with growing hatred towards Muslims?

Obviously Muslims have a right not to be stabbed in New York, but wouldn't it be better of they chose not to exercise that right and allowed themselves to be stabbed? The wounds from 9/11 are still too fresh. Allowing themselves to be stabbed is the only way for Muslims to demonstrate a genuine desire to repair the damage done by 9/11 and build bridges.

(tongue firmly in cheek)

 

[Enkil]

This man should be charged with a hate crime and attempted murder and I don't care if he was drunk or not. Luckily for this racist, Shari'a is not the law of the land in the United States.

Hahahahaha! Yea, cuz then he'd get beheaded. Thanks for the joke. By the way, heard the attack was a part of some liberal group. Guess we can't blame Fox News and Glenn Beck this time. Such a pity. Just a regular old nutcase who we can't tie to em! Darnit!

 

[Lockguy3000]

"This attack runs counter to everything that New Yorkers believe, no matter what God we may pray to," Bloomberg said.

Victim in cab driver attack to meet with Mayor Michael Bloomberg | 7online.com
Most of these these bigots are not even from NYC,
they are either from upstate NY, or Long Island.

 

[Ayersy]

If only everyone on both sides would stop overreacting...

That was exactly what I was about to say.

Both sides are guilty of EXACTLY the same thing.

A small number of Christians would even consider harming a Muslim simply because of religious reasons, and again it's only a minority of Muslims who would do the same.

Just because a Christian stabbed a Muslim doesn't mean all Christians are racist morons like this stab-happy idiot, and just because some terrorists associated with Islam committed some terrorist attacks, doesn't mean that all Muslims are murderous psychopaths.

The sooner that people realise there are idiots from all walks of life, the better. Except for atheists of course, we're all awesome.

 

[SithDoughnut]

Hahahahaha! Yea, cuz then he'd get beheaded. Thanks for the joke. By the way, heard the attack was a part of some liberal group. Guess we can't blame Fox News and Glenn Beck this time. Such a pity. Just a regular old nutcase who we can't tie to em! Darnit!

The attack wasn't part of any group, it was an individual. You also realise that this happened in the UK, so Fox News is irrelevant, right? Not everything is directly connected to American politics.

 

[cobweb]

The attack wasn't part of any group, it was an individual. You also realise that this happened in the UK, so Fox News is irrelevant, right? Not everything is directly connected to American politics.

I thought I saw on the news that it happened in New York City.

 

[wanderingone]

The attack wasn't part of any group, it was an individual. You also realise that this happened in the UK, so Fox News is irrelevant, right? Not everything is directly connected to American politics.

? What happened in the UK? The assault on the taxi driver happened in NYC, are you talking about something else?

 

[DaisyDay]

It sounds like he has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. His friends and acquaintances say that it is not like him. He did just get back from being in Afghanistan filming a buddy soldier in combat.

How horrible for the Bangladeshi cab driver.

Hahahahaha! Yea, cuz then he'd get beheaded. Thanks for the joke. By the way, heard the attack was a part of some liberal group. Guess we can't blame Fox News and Glenn Beck this time. Such a pity. Just a regular old nutcase who we can't tie to em! Darnit!

Where did you hear that? All reports said he was alone in the cab. As for "regular old nutcase" - what a charming and sympathetic way to describe mental illness!

 

[Billnew]

I believe the criminal act should be punished.
The criminal act was the attack with the knife.
There is no crime for hating someone.

Give him the worst punishment for the crime committed.
If that isn't enough then increase the punishment.
If this was done by someone that just didn't want to pay his fare,
would the cab driver be any less injured? Would it not be as bad a crime?

People in the world hate. There will always be hate in the world. We can not change that. Punish people for the criminal act, not their thoughts behind the act.

When the stupidist reasons are the reason to commit a crime, let the punishment be harsh. The crime is the crime. If the punishment for assualt with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, is less then life in prison, then it needs to be. If you give him life, how can you punish him more?(technically, as three life terms sometimes means they could be out
in 20-30yrs.)

Terrorists that attack Americans, Extremist who attack Christians, Racists that violently attack a person of that race, break the law when they turn to violence. They have commited no crime by merely hating. We have the right to free speech, that means free opinions. Punish "hate crimes" to the max. But we really need to think about that threshold we cross when we start considering what a person is thinking when we seek charges. Today its the extemist and violence. What about when its just not politically correct thinking is a hate crime?
Do we have other laws that are linked to the thoughts/attitudes of a suspect rather then his actions?

 

[Billnew]

It sounds like he has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. His friends and acquaintances say that it is not like him. He did just get back from being in Afghanistan filming a buddy soldier in combat.

How horrible for the Bangladeshi cab driver.


Where did you hear that? All reports said he was alone in the cab. As for "regular old nutcase" - what a charming and sympathetic way to describe mental illness!

It was so much easier, when it was just some crazy racist that did this. Is there a link to this? Photo-journalist that got to close to the action?
Free lance? If someone sent him they should have made sure he was offered help to deal with issues the combat can bring. (and they might have, he might have refused.)

 

[jaol1fe]

I believe the criminal act should be punished.
The criminal act was the attack with the knife.
There is no crime for hating someone.

Give him the worst punishment for the crime committed.
If that isn't enough then increase the punishment.
If this was done by someone that just didn't want to pay his fare,
would the cab driver be any less injured? Would it not be as bad a crime?

People in the world hate. There will always be hate in the world. We can not change that. Punish people for the criminal act, not their thoughts behind the act.

When the stupidist reasons are the reason to commit a crime, let the punishment be harsh. The crime is the crime. If the punishment for assualt with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, is less then life in prison, then it needs to be. If you give him life, how can you punish him more?(technically, as three life terms sometimes means they could be out
in 20-30yrs.)

Terrorists that attack Americans, Extremist who attack Christians, Racists that violently attack a person of that race, break the law when they turn to violence. They have commited no crime by merely hating. We have the right to free speech, that means free opinions. Punish "hate crimes" to the max. But we really need to think about that threshold we cross when we start considering what a person is thinking when we seek charges. Today its the extemist and violence. What about when its just not politically correct thinking is a hate crime?
Do we have other laws that are linked to the thoughts/attitudes of a suspect rather then his actions?

This is so nice to read regarding this type of crime.

I am really kind of bothered with the extent people are willing to go regarding hate crimes issues. It's too Orwellian for me. All violent acts toward another person are hate crimes. I'm all for tough sentences for violent crimes. The same people who are for hate crimes are often the same people who are against tough prison sentences.

 

[jaol1fe]

It was so much easier, when it was just some crazy racist that did this. Is there a link to this? Photo-journalist that got to close to the action?
Free lance? If someone sent him they should have made sure he was offered help to deal with issues the combat can bring. (and they might have, he might have refused.)

I read where he was a college student and this was for a school project. It's a sad situation all around but the irony is that the cab driver is against the GZM.

I would post the links but as a n00b I'm restricted.