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Cyanide has energy now? Hmmm. Life is just energy we receive from food or sunlight? OK, sure. Let's go with that. Sounds legit!
Really, so these went from "truth" to proven fakes and hoaxes to "truth" again?
I haven't been fooled. I just said that it's not right to say there is no evidence of dinosaur and man. There is evidence out there.
Look at a live organism, if it dies, what has left?
Cyanide has energy now? Hmmm.
Life is just energy we receive from food or sunlight? OK, sure. Let's go with that. Sounds legit!
Sorry, I use sarcasm sometimes. That was one of the times. I totally believe that Life is only a force given and allowed to continue by the creator. Sunlight and food are not life.Oops. I meant arsenic: no cyanide.
My bad.
But I'd agree with you here. Life can be seen as making use of energy.
Sorry, I use sarcasm sometimes. That was one of the times. I totally believe that Life is only a force given and allowed to continue by the creator. Sunlight and food are not life.
Well, I guess we are confusing life with energy now? Life is a force that I likened to energy but it is not the energy we know like electrical, kinetic, nuclear, etc.All molecules have energy. Anything above 0 Kelvin has energy.
Have you ever studied biochemistry? Are you familiar with the TCA cycle or glycolysis? Pentose phosphate shunt? Anaerobic metabolism? Fatty acid metabolism? Do you know what enthalpy is?
I am guessing that you have no clue about the chemistry that happens inside of the cell, yet you think that qualifies you to tell biochemists, who have studied these things their whole lives, that they are all wrong. Hubris much?
I answered. It is that force or element or whatever that leaves when an organism dies. You could have a living and a recently dead bacteria. The force or energy, whatever that is missing from the dead one, that is the life I am talking about.I asked first. Please stop avoiding questions.
What mystical element?
Let's start right here. You need to show us that this element is real.
Sorry, I use sarcasm sometimes. That was one of the times. I totally believe that Life is only a force given and allowed to continue by the creator. Sunlight and food are not life.
When you quantify, photograph, capture, contain, weigh, the component of any living being that allows it to function, then you will have your evidence against my view.Do you have something more than a faith based belief? You know, something like evidence?
I answered. It is that force or element or whatever that leaves when an organism dies.
Well, I guess we are confusing life with energy now? Life is a force that I likened to energy but it is not the energy we know like electrical, kinetic, nuclear, etc.
When you quantify, photograph, capture, contain, weigh, the component of any living being that allows it to function, then you will have your evidence against my view.
Like I said, you can keep someone on life support by supplying them with food and oxygen while you keep their blood flowing. When that stops, something leaves. You can start again with all the life support but something is gone.
What is that?
The only driving force is 'energy in'; from food or sunlight or cyanide etc. There is nothing magical about that.
There are chemical pathways that use cyanide, HCN, which are interesting biologically;
Miyakawa S, Cleaves HJ, Miller SL.
2002 "The cold origin of life: B. Implications based on pyrimidines and purines produced from frozen ammonium cyanide solutions" Orig Life Evol Biosph;32(3):209-18
A wide variety of pyrimidines and purines were identified as products of a dilute frozen ammonium cyanide solution that had been held at -78 degrees C for 27 years. This demonstrates that both pyrimidines and purines could have been produced on the primitive earth in a short time by eutectic concentration of HCN, even though the concentration of HCN in the primitive ocean may have been low. We suggest that eutectic freezing is the most plausible demonstrated mechanism by which HCN polymerizations could have produced biologically important prebiotic compounds.
HA HA are you asking me to die? LOL that's funny.Please demonstrate what this 'whatever' is that leaves an organism when it dies.
Science, it is so cool. Did you know that there is a type of fish that stays in large schools and only one of them is a male fish. If he dies, one of the females transforms into a male to take his place?Science, eh? Always learning new things!
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