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Luke 9:62 proof that I am not heaven bound right now

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by J Daniel, Aug 22, 2019.

  1. J Daniel

    J Daniel Active Member

    United Kingdom
    I have looked back too many times!

    I don't think God listens to my prayers anymore.........(which is worrying).

    I have sinned too many times - even God has his limits.

    Hebrews makes it clear about the misuse of Jesus' blood.

    Fact is this:

    1. I am a liar
    2. I am a thief
    3. I am a fornicator
    4. I have commit lust in my heart
    5. (I don't use God's name in vain however though maybe I have in past most likely....)

    That can not enter into heaven: IMPOSSIBLE!

    I have stated many times Jesus is the only way - but truth is I have misused that privilege.

    I can only hope that God has mercy on my soul.

    Cos I am truly beyond hope and help.


    I give up easily.....

    But my heart is filled with: anger, rage, bitterness and everything else.

    I have asked so many times for God to eradicate these feelings cos I know once they are eradicated I am a free man!

    Even now in prayer I say *GOD I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE LISTENING OR NOT* how I start my prayers now.

    Fact is I have turned around to foolishness too many times after claiming Christ.
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  2. Dave L

    Dave L Well-Known Member Supporter

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    You are closer than you think......... Martin Luther said;
    "First, God has promised certainly His grace to the humbled: that is, to the self-deploring and despairing. But a man cannot be thoroughly humbled, until he comes to know that his salvation is utterly beyond his own powers, counsel, endeavours, will, and works, and absolutely depending on the will, counsel, pleasure, and work of another, that is, of God only. For if, as long as he has any persuasion that he can do even the least thing himself towards his own salvation, he retain a confidence in himself and do not utterly despair in himself, so long he is not humbled before God; but he proposes to himself some place, some time, or some work, whereby he may at length attain unto salvation. But he who hesitates not to depend wholly upon the good-will of God, he totally despairs in himself, chooses nothing for himself, but waits for God to work in him; and such an one, is the nearest unto grace, that he might be saved.

    These things, therefore, are openly proclaimed for the sake of the Elect: that, being by these means humbled and brought down to nothing, they might be saved. The rest resist this humiliation; nay, they condemn the teaching of self-desperation; they wish to have left a little something that they may do themselves. These secretly remain proud, and adversaries to the grace of God. This, I say, is one reason—that those who fear God, being humbled, might know, call upon, and receive the grace of God."

    Martin Luther. The Bondage of the Will.
  3. royal priest

    royal priest debtor to grace

    United States
    I would rate this with a million winners if I could
  4. royal priest

    royal priest debtor to grace

    United States
    Our failures can never outdo the grace of God. They only magnify it.
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  5. Newtheran

    Newtheran Well-Known Member

    United States
    I don't know what sort of church tradition you belong to, but let me ask you a question. If for 364 days of the year you subsisted on donuts and video games, could you go out on the 365th day of the year and successfully engage in competitive sports?
  6. royal priest

    royal priest debtor to grace

    United States
    Maybe if they're vegan donuts and I'm playing with the wii :)
  7. Danthemailman

    Danthemailman Well-Known Member

    United States
    Luke 9:62 - And Jesus said unto him, No man, having put his hand to the plough, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God. (KJV) I've heard certain people in the past quote this verse in order to teach salvation by works.

    The NIV reads - Jesus replied, “No one who puts a hand to the plow and looks back is fit for service in the kingdom of God.” So was Jesus talking about membership or service?

    Jesus creates a picture of a farmer who rather than looking forward at a distant object is instead looking back. Jesus’ message is "follow Me" and we should not let the things of this world get in our way. We can become too easily distracted by the things of this life, like our physical comforts and material desires. If you look straight ahead at a far away object while plowing the result is straight rows in the earth. If you fail to do so, then the rows will not be straight, but crooked. This is a picture of our relationship with Jesus. Christ followers need to continually fix their eyes on Jesus in spite of the desire for wealth, comforts and prestige. By not following Jesus with a totally committed heart can cost believers spiritual blessings and opportunities for greater ministry and service.
  8. tturt

    tturt Senior Veteran Supporter

    Glad you brought this up. I offer you this. God expects us to forgive others 70 x 7 but He has a max?

    Matt 18:22 -I'm sure you know the 70 x 7 is really us forgiving others again and again. He forgives us always.
    "For as the heaven is high above the earth, so great is his mercy toward them that fear him. As far as the east is from the west, so far hath he removed our transgressions from us. PSA 103:11-12

    Think you need to forgive yourself. Let God have the final say, repent, and accept His forgiveness, then go forward healed. Praising and worshiping The Lord.
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  9. FutureAndAHope

    FutureAndAHope Just me Supporter

    There are a few points to consider:

    a) God has not given up on you
    b) Some times sin/anger is the result of our needs not being met
    c) God will supply all of your needs as you seek Him

    Firstly God has not given up on you, the bible tells overseers in the bible that "if they see a person committing a sin that does not lead to death, they are to pray for the restoration of that person", if God was finished with you, you would be physically dead, or well on the way to it. The cross of Christ covers all of the sins you have committed, or could possibly commit. Yet we still need to fear God, and respect His word.

    Often times our anger, rage, etc comes from our physical desires, and needs not being met. Often times this leads to sin. What you need to do however is focus on the fact that God can supply, not only your eternal needs, but the things you need while here on earth. Yet even if God could not supply these needs, you still need to focus on your one most important need the need for eternal life. That is found in the fear of the LORD, respecting God.

    Know that you are not beyond God's grace, but you must still repent, and focus on the provision, of the LORD. Joseph went through hard times before becoming ruler in Egypt, David was chased through the wilderness before becoming king of Israel. You may well have trials, now, difficulties, yet in the end God want you blessed. Focus on the blessing ahead, be it temporal, or eternal.
  10. crossnote

    crossnote Berean Supporter

    United States
    Luke 9:62 NKJV
    [62] But Jesus said to him, "No one, having put his hand to the plow, and looking back, is fit for the kingdom of God."

    Yup, there was only One fit for the Kingdom (the others ran and hid) while they crucified Him.
    Yet, His grace is greater.
    Take heart.
  11. Alan35usa

    Alan35usa New Member

    United States
    Calvary Chapel
    Romans 5:20 where sin abounds, Grace abounds that much more. We are not saved or damned based on what we do or do not do. We are saved based on what Jesus did. He died for all your sins padt present and future. So which one, having been paid for, will condemn you? Hebrews 10:14 For by one sacrifice He has perfected forever those who are being made Holy. You are perfect already. Being made Holy. Be still then with a glad heart. Know that He is God.
  12. lastofall

    lastofall Active Member

    The Lord Jesus Christ's standard for forgiving to those that believe in Him is an endless forgiving, for those that do truly believe in Him are they that do indeed feel the pain of guilt for their sin, and return right back to Him when they again sin.
    For it is the just who may fall several times, but rise right back up into their sincerity toward the Lord: contrariwise it is the wicked who when they fall, fall into miscief.