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All my life I have been a Christian who cannot get close to God because my OCD keeps getting in the way. When I find something that works for me, it stops working for me just as fast because I start to worry that it is wrong.

My paralyzing thoughts concerning all things Christian-oriented have kept me distant from God all 30 of my years after being baptized into the Lord Jesus. After many years of struggle, some therapy, and lots and lots of thought about it, I finally came up with a strategy that helped me get closer to God by managing my OCD. Before that, I simply tried not to think of Him at all because of the agony such thoughts brought me. Recently (last year or so) I have tried to actually apply the strategy to each day. But now I am stuck again, paralyzed with the anxiety that this strategy isn't acceptable to God.

Here is my strategy:
If I am justified by the finishing work of the cross, I am free to not have to dot all my i’s and cross all my t’s. When I have a perfectionistic mindset (or one of too deliberately or too laboriously trying), I get very anxious, to the point of paralysis. My anxious thoughts consume me. Yet I don’t want to go the other extreme and not try at all. So ‘doing my best’ (in view of my anxious scrupulosity and incessant doubt about what constitutes ‘the list’ of what I should and shouldn’t do) means ‘keeping it between the lines.’ The question becomes, then, what does this look like?
The only thing that keeps me between the lines right now is to strategize a balanced approach where I don’t keep the ropes too taut or too slack. The way I have remedied this (so that I can get my mind around my walk somehow) is by having a limited number of defined ‘focus’ areas where I apply my energies. Maybe in time I will be able to totally let go and trust God, but for now I need a structured approach; otherwise I get overwhelmed with trying to manage all the details that I see as part of the Christian walk and the doubt that comes along with them—which are in the ‘okay with God’ column and which are in the ‘displeasing to God’ column.
Could it work with God to focus on just one or two things at a time and let the others go? (And to give lowest priority to the grey areas, where no blatant sin is involved? When I open up ‘the list’ to gray areas, I end up in a quagmire of analysis over each input to my mind I encounter, burning lots of mental energy, working myself up in increasing anxiety, but getting nothing resolved beyond a point of doubt.)

I would like to keep in mind that ‘the law’ is the ideal (and it is to our benefit to stick close to God’s ways), but mercy triumphs over judgment. Jesus takes a hard line on sin but is merciful toward the sinner. So grace is always the bottom line, to the extent I miss the mark. And it covers me as long as I am at least pointing my life in the right direction. That is not meant to discourage trying to live in more of God’s way than less, just because “I can get by with less.” I rob my life of peace and joy by doing this. But I don’t have to feel the pressure to perfectionistically try to ‘do everything right.’ This is a freeing thought to one who gets snared up in the details, fearing always that she is disqualified on point after point. (Complicating this ‘detail-oriented’ approach to the walk is the added confusion of which points compulsion demands that I adhere to are actually really God intended. Some things that are taught as His truth are based on misunderstanding of His word.)

HOWEVER, this thought trumps all thoughts of assurance related to the principle of justification and freedom in Christ: If there are consequences for sin, how can I not live in fear if I fail to scrupulously adhere to all the i’s and t’s? And how can I take on a strategy that seeks to focus on just a thing or two at a time (and therefore lets me get by with not adhering to the others)?

Bottom line, every time I go to church or read the Bible or read faith-based materials, I find many thoughts (real or perceived by an over-anxious, too analytical mind) that invalidate the things that work for me and help me to manage my OCD in a way that allows me to walk with God and not push Him away. These thoughts get 'stuck' in my mind and I can't get rid of them. They cause paralyzing anxiety so that the very strategies I use to help me cope with my anxiety and walk with God themselves become a source of new anxiety. I find sin in EVERYTHING. I am truly stuck.


Questions that remain forever unresolved in my mind distract me from doing or thinking about anything else, questions like these:
How can we know for sure that something is right? How can we avoid a paralyzing works mentality? What is the place grace is supposed to have? If I am not going all out to be obedient, I am sinning so grace may abound. But if I am going all out, I get all bound up, anxious, perfectionistic, legalistic…It feeds right into my OCD.
What is the difference between valuing obedience and perfectionism/legalism? In trying to be obedient in everything, the pressure causes me to sin even more. For example, I feel uptight and irritable and fearful and angry. My attitude toward God and others is compulsion-based and weary, not loving and not from any kind of wellspring of peace with God and love relationship with Him. How can we ever have peace in Christ or rest in Him when His standard is so exacting that we have no breathing room? The ‘list’ of things I must think and do is so extensive. Or is it? How much of what we bind on ourselves is a result of an inherently works-oriented, legalistic mindset and misinterpretation of Scriptures? Is His requirement really less complicated and more big picture than I think? Is His burden actually light? The list of questions in my mind is as exhaustive (and exhausting) as my perception of God's lists of 'Do's' and 'Do Not's'.

I feel like I can't do this anymore. My anxiety makes me physically sick and mentally derpessed. I have no energy to sustain a relationship with anyone, even those close to me. Forget any hope of another marriage (my husband, who understood me, died) or children. Forget travel. Everything that isn't staying in the house feels like more than I can bear. I can't concentrate at work. I get nothing done at home. My house is a wreck because all I can do is try to figure out my walk with God. I feel I'd rather just forget about Him and go to Hell. Could it be any worse than the Hell my life is?
 

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What you stress over is not what God does. All the things you think are so important aren't as big as your mind is making it out to be. God teaches us and helps us grow closer to Him in His time and in His steps.

I got so caught up in some sins I repetitively did and shamed myself, focused on them because I knew better but couldn't stop. This left me so ashamed to try and come close to church and God. One day I stopped and listened to God and heard what he was wanting to teach me. What he was trying to teach me had nothing to do with all the things I was beating myself up about.

God has His timing and even though we see dirt on our faces, God may want to teach us how to use soap before learning to remove dirt from an obvious place.
 
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Have you ever heard of Martin Luther? He struggled with thoughts like this. Thinking that God had a sword in His hand and was ready to cut down anything that offended Him. Martin Luther didn't have the knowledge we have today about OCD. He struggled with the same grinding thought that all of us here in this forum do. I will pray to the Lord on your behalf that God leads you to knowing His full love.
 
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Hi Anchor,
This will probably sound kind of mean but from what I've read in your post, your strategy for managing your religious OCD has really been just a way to reassure yourself regarding it's threats. That is counterproductive toward your getting better. You also do avoidance behaviors which is also common to any body with OCD. It's easier to avoid than to be in the place where you are forced to sit with the fear.
Learning to live with feelings of uncertainty on these themes is the only way to treat the disorder.
I recommend reading John Bunyan's "Grace Abounding to the Chief of Sinners" and also visiting Dr. Phillipson's website: www.ocdonline.com and read up on ERP strategy for managing OCD thoughts.
I think you understand the concept of "grace" just fine but the fear that accompanies these thoughts is the thing that makes them seem real/threatening and valid. OCD is a fear based disorder. If you didn't have the broken fire alarm going off you'd be able to think this through and dismiss the obsessions.
Praying for you,
Mitzi

All my life I have been a Christian who cannot get close to God because my OCD keeps getting in the way. When I find something that works for me, it stops working for me just as fast because I start to worry that it is wrong.

My paralyzing thoughts concerning all things Christian-oriented have kept me distant from God all 30 of my years after being baptized into the Lord Jesus. After many years of struggle, some therapy, and lots and lots of thought about it, I finally came up with a strategy that helped me get closer to God by managing my OCD. Before that, I simply tried not to think of Him at all because of the agony such thoughts brought me. Recently (last year or so) I have tried to actually apply the strategy to each day. But now I am stuck again, paralyzed with the anxiety that this strategy isn't acceptable to God.

Here is my strategy:
If I am justified by the finishing work of the cross, I am free to not have to dot all my i’s and cross all my t’s. When I have a perfectionistic mindset (or one of too deliberately or too laboriously trying), I get very anxious, to the point of paralysis. My anxious thoughts consume me. Yet I don’t want to go the other extreme and not try at all. So ‘doing my best’ (in view of my anxious scrupulosity and incessant doubt about what constitutes ‘the list’ of what I should and shouldn’t do) means ‘keeping it between the lines.’ The question becomes, then, what does this look like?
The only thing that keeps me between the lines right now is to strategize a balanced approach where I don’t keep the ropes too taut or too slack. The way I have remedied this (so that I can get my mind around my walk somehow) is by having a limited number of defined ‘focus’ areas where I apply my energies. Maybe in time I will be able to totally let go and trust God, but for now I need a structured approach; otherwise I get overwhelmed with trying to manage all the details that I see as part of the Christian walk and the doubt that comes along with them—which are in the ‘okay with God’ column and which are in the ‘displeasing to God’ column.
Could it work with God to focus on just one or two things at a time and let the others go? (And to give lowest priority to the grey areas, where no blatant sin is involved? When I open up ‘the list’ to gray areas, I end up in a quagmire of analysis over each input to my mind I encounter, burning lots of mental energy, working myself up in increasing anxiety, but getting nothing resolved beyond a point of doubt.)

I would like to keep in mind that ‘the law’ is the ideal (and it is to our benefit to stick close to God’s ways), but mercy triumphs over judgment. Jesus takes a hard line on sin but is merciful toward the sinner. So grace is always the bottom line, to the extent I miss the mark. And it covers me as long as I am at least pointing my life in the right direction. That is not meant to discourage trying to live in more of God’s way than less, just because “I can get by with less.” I rob my life of peace and joy by doing this. But I don’t have to feel the pressure to perfectionistically try to ‘do everything right.’ This is a freeing thought to one who gets snared up in the details, fearing always that she is disqualified on point after point. (Complicating this ‘detail-oriented’ approach to the walk is the added confusion of which points compulsion demands that I adhere to are actually really God intended. Some things that are taught as His truth are based on misunderstanding of His word.)

HOWEVER, this thought trumps all thoughts of assurance related to the principle of justification and freedom in Christ: If there are consequences for sin, how can I not live in fear if I fail to scrupulously adhere to all the i’s and t’s? And how can I take on a strategy that seeks to focus on just a thing or two at a time (and therefore lets me get by with not adhering to the others)?

Bottom line, every time I go to church or read the Bible or read faith-based materials, I find many thoughts (real or perceived by an over-anxious, too analytical mind) that invalidate the things that work for me and help me to manage my OCD in a way that allows me to walk with God and not push Him away. These thoughts get 'stuck' in my mind and I can't get rid of them. They cause paralyzing anxiety so that the very strategies I use to help me cope with my anxiety and walk with God themselves become a source of new anxiety. I find sin in EVERYTHING. I am truly stuck.

Questions that remain forever unresolved in my mind distract me from doing or thinking about anything else, questions like these:
How can we know for sure that something is right? How can we avoid a paralyzing works mentality?What is the place grace is supposed to have? If I am not going all out to be obedient, I am sinning so grace may abound. But if I am going all out, I get all bound up, anxious, perfectionistic, legalistic…It feeds right into my OCD.
What is the difference between valuing obedience and perfectionism/legalism? In trying to be obedient in everything, the pressure causes me to sin even more. For example, I feel uptight and irritable and fearful and angry. My attitude toward God and others is compulsion-based and weary, not loving and not from any kind of wellspring of peace with God and love relationship with Him. How can we ever have peace in Christ or rest in Him when His standard is so exacting that we have no breathing room? The ‘list’ of things I must think and do is so extensive. Or is it? How much of what we bind on ourselves is a result of an inherently works-oriented, legalistic mindset and misinterpretation of Scriptures? Is His requirement really less complicated and more big picture than I think? Is His burden actually light? The list of questions in my mind is as exhaustive (and exhausting) as my perception of God's lists of 'Do's' and 'Do Not's'.

I feel like I can't do this anymore. My anxiety makes me physically sick and mentally derpessed. I have no energy to sustain a relationship with anyone, even those close to me. Forget any hope of another marriage (my husband, who understood me, died) or children. Forget travel. Everything that isn't staying in the house feels like more than I can bear. I can't concentrate at work. I get nothing done at home. My house is a wreck because all I can do is try to figure out my walk with God. I feel I'd rather just forget about Him and go to Hell. Could it be any worse than the Hell my life is?
 
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Thanks, Mitzi. Hard to swallow or understand your words, but maybe one day if the Lord can teach me to relax a little in His love. Right now after more than 20 years of not walking with God at all because of my anxieties about Him, any strategy that will assure me enough to pray to Him without panicking seems an improvement. I guess each one's journey is individual. God bless.
 
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Hi Rossignol. I appreciate this well thought response and your sharing of personal experience. The thought about learning to use the soap is a very profound thought. It is also very helpful to ponder. I keep hearing messages about God's pace for us: the how's and why's and what's are personal and individually applied; it is not about 'rules.' Thanks again
 
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