Light years is a time measure

[PsychoSarah]

No argument there.

Like calling someone a troll when he isn't, eh?

I would call that misinterpretation, an exaggeration is warping an original truth, being incorrect doesn't really fall in line with that. Also, I am not really sure if you are a troll or not at this point. People do react to you as if you are though.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Including a Nephilim?

Or are you going to tell me Goliath wasn't a Nephilim?

A 9'9" human being might be bedridden; but a 9'9" Nephilim would probably be considered a midget.

But according to you the Nephilim were pre-flood.

And in reality yes. The Nephilim were simply myths. You can't breed with a myth.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Humans are prone to exaggeration.

I agree, and stories tend to grow with the telling. A local flood that almost kills a lone hunter can grow to become Noah's Ark. All it takes is a little bit of time.

 

[PsychoSarah]

6 ft 9 inches would have been a giant amongst a people who, at the time, would have usually been at least two feet shorter than that. Little old me at 5 ft 3 inches would have been tall for a woman.

 

[dad]

6 ft 9 inches would have been a giant amongst a people who, at the time, would have usually been at least two feet shorter than that. Little old me at 5 ft 3 inches would have been tall for a woman.

You have no remains of people at that time though! You are grasping at straws.

 

[dad]

It's awesome when two completely self-deluded fundamentalists start trash-talking each other, and they're both completely wrong.

Not all folks specialize in the same field. If someone claims there is no time, it is OK to point out they are being silly. That doesn't mean we burn in hell.

 

[dad]

Really? Someone arguing the purpose of a unit of measure. You could maybe say that the light year is not an accurate measure, but it's intended to measure the distance that light travels in an earth year.

Bingo!

Why are people arguing over such a simple and well defined concept? Even if you think time is nonexistent, it doesn't change the purpose of the unit of measurement.

It relegates the measure to the fishbowl of earth and area!

 

[PsychoSarah]

You have no remains of people at that time though! You are grasping at straws.

We have fossilized human remains from thousands of years ago, as well as bones more recent. One can actually use human bones to tell an individual's height. While we may not be able to pin point the exact time of Goliath, going on the general trend of human height and using remains as old as the first recognizable humans, and the fact that human height has only recently spiked significantly due to better nutrition, 4ft tall is a decent rough estimate for the average human height of so called biblical times. Lots of people claim even shorter.

 

[AV1611VET]

But according to you the Nephilim were pre-flood.

And as I have said before:

When you can tell me why Noah and his sons could have had different colored eyes, then you can explain why Goliath was a Nephilim.

 

[AV1611VET]

6 ft 9 inches would have been a giant amongst a people who, at the time, would have usually been at least two feet shorter than that.

That's right ... so imagine what 9'9" would be?

Besides, SZ's point is that he could not have been 9'9" without being bedridden; which I think is a reference to the Square-cube law.

In any event, to us, he was a giant; but to his ancestors ...

Numbers 13:33 And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight.

... a midget.

 

[dad]

We have fossilized human remains from thousands of years ago, as well as bones more recent. One can actually use human bones to tell an individual's height.

I suspect the flood may have been around the KT layer somewhere. That is what, 65 million years ago according to present state based 'dating'. You have no men from then.

While we may not be able to pin point the exact time of Goliath, going on the general trend of human height and using remains as old as the first recognizable humans, and the fact that human height has only recently spiked significantly due to better nutrition, 4ft tall is a decent rough estimate for the average human height of so called biblical times. Lots of people claim even shorter.

Now Goliath is more recent. The bible gives his height, though, so is it really any question?

 

[RealityCheck]

Not all folks specialize in the same field. If someone claims there is no time, it is OK to point out they are being silly. That doesn't mean we burn in hell.

What makes Justa's assertion any less silly than yours? You have just as much evidence to support your idea of time as he/she does. Zero.

 

[RealityCheck]

I suspect the flood may have been around the KT layer somewhere. That is what, 65 million years ago according to present state based 'dating'. You have no men from then.

Now Goliath is more recent. The bible gives his height, though, so is it really any question?

Funny enough, though, you believe in the flood and that there were men who survived it. So.......

 

[dad]

What makes Justa's assertion any less silly than yours? You have just as much evidence to support your idea of time as he/she does. Zero.

Time in the bible existed from the start.

 

[dad]

Funny enough, though, you believe in the flood and that there were men who survived it. So.......

Ge 6:4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. This was pre flood.

 

[RealityCheck]

Time in the bible existed from the start.

Start of what? Time existed from the start of time?

 

[RealityCheck]

Ge 6:4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. This was pre flood.

Yes, and my point was, where are your skeletons of these giants?

 

[RealityCheck]

Ge 6:4 - There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown. This was pre flood.

Yes, and my point was, where are your skeletons of these giants?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Those giants were dinosaurs!

 

[dad]

Start of what? Time existed from the start of time?

If time existed and days before the earth was created, and at creation and in creation week, then it sure can't be something man made up.