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I thought I was very staightforward. That's more than I can say for others on this thread.
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Some things cannot be accepted by persuasion.
There are people who are so dominated by their natural mind, they cannot understand what the Scripture is saying about many things.
"Now the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him; and he cannot know them, because they are spiritually judged" (1Cor 2:14).
The reality of Hell comes by revelation from the Holy Spirit. When a person has not received the Holy Spirit and are trusting in their natural mind, they have little understanding of what the Gospel is all about. But when a sinner is sliding down into Hell, his eyes are opened and he sees his future as it really is, but it will be too late for him.
I could not agree more! I have long since abandoned the idea that I will convince the person I am talking to. IMO all we can hope for is that someone who is "lurking", not meant in a derogatory way, who is undecided, not knowing which view is scriptural, will see the errors, fallacies, etc. of those arguing from their tradition, and see how they often avoid addressing scripture which contadict them, and will from that reach an informed decision.
I thought I was very staightforward. That's more than I can say for others on this thread.When you play chess, are you like my youngest brother who when he thinks he might be losing accidently upsets the board?
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Of course you are, and you are respected for it. I never tease anyone I don't like. You are the type of person that makes this forum a very interesting and stimulating place to be. We learn more from controversy than if we agreed with each other all the time. Just forgive my sense of humour at times...I thought I was very staightforward. That's more than I can say for others on this thread.
[ . . . ]Matt 22:2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. * * *
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
* * *
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.
NOTE: He destroyed the people and burnt up their city (the world system)
That is what is to be understood.[ . . . ]
I'm convinced that those who believe punishment in Hell is not eternal are gonna be losers in the end.
"Death" is the punctiliar, i.e. point in time, cessation of life. It has no physical substance, it cannot be thrown anywhere. However, there is a sentient being, called "Death", whom I refer to as the angel of death, who along with another sentient being, called "Hell," are given power to kill 1/4 of the earth.Rev 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth. These two beings are later thrown into the lake of fire and their power to kill ended.Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
I'd rather stick to what the scriptures say personally.... even the devil can give "visions."
... the reasons why Jesus seemed to just die while sinners will be tormented forever...
You tell someone to keep their amateur Theology then you use a chapter about love to claim that God would not punish the unrighteous. Human parents love their children but they do punish them. Some people complain that spanking a disobedient child on his rear end is torture. But it is Biblical.
You say you know for certain then you use words like"implied" What is stated categorically, NOT implied, in Matthew 25:46, is that the unrighteous go away into everlasting punishment, and the righteous go away into everlasting life. If the everlasting punishment ends at some point, so does the everlasting life. Same word.
I'd rather stick to what the scriptures say personally.... even the devil can give "visions."
The punishment IS destruction (according to the Bible) which IS everlasting...meaning no resurrection from the 2nd death. It really isn't that hard to understand.
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Why would anyone fear "destruction"? Seems pretty painless to me.
Why would I be concerned about that?
I wouldn't choose "Destruction," if the other choice was "Life."
Why would anyone fear "destruction"? Seems pretty painless to me.
Why would I be concerned about that?
Some people prefer life...
CC
Originally Posted by SkyWriting
Why would I be concerned about that?
Sure.
Non-smokers, Tea-tottalers, Nuns, etc.
I don't think the scriptures mentioned Hell-fire to get Sinners to change the preferences settings on their heavenly facebook pages.
Bible verse list - Scriptures about Hell from ScriptureMenu.com
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