Let's Talk About Hell (4)

[Sophrosyne]

Yes!

 

[Timothew]

Yet everyone dies, not only the wicked. And the wicked are raised again for the Great white throne. Only to die yet again? Sillyness. It is much better to believe that we are conscious when we die and that our souls go to either heaven or hell, and when the resurrection happens it's just our bodies meeting up with our souls. Then when the wicked are judged they don't simply die again (as your belief states) but their bodies and souls are eternally destroyed in hell at this point (but are still aware to feel the burn).

I wanted more people to see this post.

 

[createdtoworship]

I wanted more people to see this post.

so you admit there is no purpose for the resurrection (of the wicked) in your view?

 

[createdtoworship]

Let's see, some people say at death, the wicked go to hell. There they are tormented in fire. Then the resurrection comes. Then they are judged. Apparently they were tortured without a trial before the resurrection and judgment. Anyway, now they are resurrected and judged. They are found guilty so now it's back to hell for more torture. And this fanciful farce makes complete sense to these people.

well in your view people die and go to sheol before being tried legally. That's not fair. Then after they are judged they simply go back to sheol. Talk about calling the kettle black. So there is really no need for a resurrection or a Judgment in your view because they are judged already when they go to the grave. And why be resurrected if they are simply going to go right back into the grave anyway?

 

[he-man]

well in your view people die and go to sheol before being tried legally. That's not fair. Then after they are judged they simply go back to sheol. Talk about calling the kettle black. So there is really no need for a resurrection or a Judgment in your view because they are judged already when they go to the grave. And why be resurrected if they are simply going to go right back into the grave anyway?

The only problem is that you have ignored the fact that those who have had access to knowledge and perverted it or denied it, will pay the penalty of death twice, the second time of total extinction.

Those without knowledge will simply die and not be resurrected to be able to see what they missed.

Rev 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Timothew]

so you admit there is no purpose for the resurrection (of the wicked) in your view?

No, it's just a really funny post.

"We are conscious when we die"
"their bodies and souls are eternally destroyed in hell at this point (but are still aware to feel the burn)."

You are quite a comedian.

 

[LutheranMafia]

According to the ET view, Hitler is rewarded for saying a prayer, while millions of Jews are tortured for all eternity..

It is a sickness that must be confronted and reformed.

You are acting like there is eternal torment for billions for not believing in Jesus, when Jesus said that there is only one sin that can never be forgiven:

Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man, it will be forgiven him; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it will not be forgiven him, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matthew 12:32
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You can even speak out against Jesus and yet be forgiven. Only those who curse God, even as they believe in God, will suffer eternal torment. Eternal torment is reserved for people who hate God.

 

[LutheranMafia]

People who believe humans actually Die:
Timothew, TW, Paul, God.

People who believe humans don't actually die:
LutheranMafia, One snake

I thought you were the one who didn't care about being in the majority. According to 99% of Christians death is not the end of consciousness. The 1% on your side are JW's (if that is really Christian) and Seventh Day Adventists and Truth Warrior.

You can't count Paul and God on your side, and Paul never spoke of a death of the spirit, which is what is required to assume that any of the authors of the Bible are actually on your side.

 

[Timothew]

I thought you were the one who didn't care about being in the majority. According to 99% of Christians death is not the end of consciousness. The 1% on your side are JW's (if that is really Christian) and Seventh Day Adventists and Truth Warrior.

You can't count Paul and God on your side, and Paul never spoke of a death of the spirit, which is what is required to assume that any of the authors of the Bible are actually on your side.

I don't care about being in the majority. Me Plus God equals a majority

Paul wrote that the wages of sin is death, God said to Adam if you eat the fruit "dying you will die", and I believe both of them.

You are on the serpent's side. Most scholars say that the serpent represents Satan. Oops! Too bad!

 

[Sophrosyne]

Was Adam annihilated?

 

[Timothew]

Was Adam annihilated?

What do you mean by "annihilated"?

 

[Timothew]

Genesis 5:5
Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Genesis 5:5
Adam lived 930 years, and then he died.

was he annihilated?

 

[Timothew]

was he annihilated?

What does Sophrosyne mean by annihilated?

Do you think Adam lived through his death?

 

[Timothew]

What do you mean by annihilated?

 

[Timothew]

Sophrosyne, did Adam live through his death?

 

[Mikecpking]

Was Adam annihilated?

The judgement has not happened yet.

 

[Sophrosyne]

What do you mean by annihilated?

You have equated death as annihilation haven't?
If the wages of sin is death then death is a reward or punishment if I understand your logic and annihilation is that punishment for those who die in sin. I was curious if Adam was annihilated because that is the logic I was seeing in what verses you were stringing together.

 

[Sophrosyne]

Sophrosyne, did Adam live through his death?

I believe he died a mortal death but his immortal being is still living.

 

[Timothew]

No death is death. Death is not being alive,

Welcome to ignore.