Lets keep it simple...

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Sunday observance is a byproduct of sun worship. It's called, "The Venerable Day of the Sun". Sun worship has its origin in Babylon. Since the Beast of Daniel and Revelation draws its beliefs and practices from Babylon, Sunday would be the day for the followers of the Beast or his image would enact Sunday as their day of worship. Sunday came to be the official day of rest first through Constantine and then it was adapted by Papal Rome and Christianize.

This was all prophesied by God in Daniel and Revelation. Sunday, as the Lord's day, in not founded on Scripture, but rather, the tradition of Papal Rome. Those who rejected this change to the will of God were persecuted, tortured and killed. The dragon does not want people obeying the will of God because obedience to God is foundational to true worship and godly love. Since Satan desires to be worshiped as the Most High he needs to draw people away from the will of God and into his own form of worship, which has it origin in Babylon.

I just gave evidence that Christians gathered especially on Sundays before there was a Papal Rome.

Justin Martyr gives the correct reason.

But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; and Jesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead.

God be gracious to me a sinner.

 

[Jb9]

Sabbath was/is originally Saturday but Constantine I think "changed" it to Sunday. The christians were sort of "cascaded" into worshipping on a Sunday when it's actually sat since then.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Sabbath was/is originally Saturday but Constantine I think "changed" it to Sunday. The christians were sort of "cascaded" into worshipping on a Sunday when it's actually sat since then.

Not so... please look at my last few posts and note the dates. The Sabbath is Saturday, always has been.

God be gracious to me a sinner.

 

[maco]

I just gave evidence that Christians gathered especially on Sundays before there was a Papal Rome.

Justin Martyr gives the correct reason.

God be gracious to me a sinner.

It's statements like this that are unsupported by Scripture that help to promote and support the change to God's times and Law orchestrated by the Beast of Daniel and Revelation.

 

[prodromos]

It's statements like this that are unsupported by Scripture that help to promote and support the change to God's times and Law orchestrated by the Beast of Daniel and Revelation.

Does the bible say that scripture is the pillar and ground of truth, or the Church?

 

[maco]

Does the bible say that scripture is the pillar and ground of truth, or the Church?

The church is supposed to have the Scriptures and teach from them otherwise we might as well receive all modern day Prophets who speak contrary to the Scriptures.

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

It's statements like this that are unsupported by Scripture that help to promote and support the change to God's times and Law orchestrated by the Beast of Daniel and Revelation.

I do not support Rome in any way. That is what you are referring to isn't it?

I used to be on the same side of the fence. I found 'The Church'. I really thought anything good in the Apostolic Church was long since gone. I was taught that as a boy when I would ask my Sunday school teachers.

Then a friend (client) introduced me to The Church of Antioch. I was very sceptical. After two years of investigation at my own pace, I attended a service. It was Holy Pascha, served in the middle of the night with a feast that went on until dawn. I was hooked. I became a catechumen (student), of The Church of Antioch and stayed that way for a few years. I was recieved by baptism in 2005, joined the choir. Eventually we started a Church here in my hometown where I a member of council and act as one of three Readers in the Choir.

It has been my greatest fortune to have some extremely good teachers, Priests, Monks and Bishops. These people are my best friends.

Anyway, I hate to see you languishing around in bad data. Sounds like a bad night on the history channel. Can't be helped I suppose. Most of us start with no real education, and we do our level best at making sense of the Bible. Truth is... there's no need to struggle, if we find the Church. Turn that TV off though.

We need to get our heads wrapped around the process of salvation from the Eastern Church's point of view. Everything else does fall into place and Christianity becomes a beautiful love story.

Let me know if I can help.

God be gracious to me a sinner.

 

[prodromos]

The church is supposed to have the Scriptures and teach from them otherwise we might as well receive all modern day Prophets who speak contrary to the Scriptures.

The Church does correctly interpret scripture and has done consistently since Pentecost. It is not to individuals but to the body of Christ that the Holy Spirit is promised to guide into all truth.

 

[maco]

The Church does correctly interpret scripture and has done consistently since Pentecost. It is not to individuals but to the body of Christ that the Holy Spirit is promised to guide into all truth.

Which church are you referring to? The SDA? The Jehovah Witnesses? The Mormons? Papal Rome? The Branch Davidians? The Baptist?

 

[Rick Otto]

Does the bible say that scripture is the pillar and ground of truth, or the Church?

Only the pillar & ground, not the author or interpreter.

 

[Rick Otto]

Which church are you referring to? The SDA? The Jehovah Witnesses? The Mormons? Papal Rome? The Branch Davidians? The Baptist?

He's referring to "The One True" (his).

 

[OrthodoxyUSA]

Which church are you referring to? The SDA? The Jehovah Witnesses? The Mormons? Papal Rome? The Branch Davidians? The Baptist?

"The one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church"

The one we all said we believed in when we signed on... remember?

God be gracious to me a sinner.

 

[Rick Otto]

"The one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church"

The one we all said we believed in when we signed on... remember?

God be gracious to me a sinner.

That would be my Church.
It meets 24/7 365, anytime, anywhere.

 

[sunlover1]

The Church does correctly interpret scripture and has done consistently since Pentecost. It is not to individuals but to the body of Christ that the Holy Spirit is promised to guide into all truth.

What is the church made up OF.. if not "individuals"?

 

[Rick Otto]

What is the church made up OF.. if not "individuals"?

No shnikey. This same non-sense is used to put distance between misbehaving church officials & the rest of their church.
Innocence by disassociation.

 

[cerette]

You may worship any day. Everyday would be really good actually. But most Christians choose to have public worship on Sundays as it is very convenient.

 

[Thekla]

Just as the Holy Spirit was poured out (at Pentecost) to those in assembly (as commanded), and the Church is - as body, per Paul - made up of various members operating as a whole, so the Church is not made up of individuals but is an aggregation of persons.

 

[concretecamper]

It's statements like this that are unsupported by Scripture that help to promote and support the change to God's times and Law orchestrated by the Beast of Daniel and Revelation.

Every form of Christianity save one has changed God's law by caving to secular pressures and revising morality....talk about " the beast"...huh.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by maco

Which church are you referring to? The SDA? The Jehovah Witnesses? The Mormons? Papal Rome? The Branch Davidians? The Baptist?
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Good simple question!

"The one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church"

The one we all said we believed in when we signed on... remember?

God be gracious to me a sinner.

Good simple answer!

That would be my Church.
It meets 24/7 365, anytime, anywhere.

Wow! Great


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[prodromos]

You may worship any day. Everyday would be really good actually. But most Christians choose to have public worship on Sundays as it is very convenient.

Until Constantine decreed that Sunday was to be a day free of work, it was very inconvenient for christians to meet together for worship and the eucharist on Sunday, and yet it is clear that they did in fact do that, starting after sunset on the Sabbath and finishing early Sunday morning. Services in the Orthodox Church still reflect these origins, with Vespers on Saturday evening, followed by Matins and Divine Liturgy on Sunday mornings. Occasionally we have vigil services where all three are combined as they were in the beginning.