Lets keep it simple...

[maco]

Sunday is the First Day of the week.
Sunday is the day of the Resurrection.
Sunday is when churches met ...

1. Originally the Church used to meet EVERY DAY -

AC 2:42 They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to the fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer. 43 Everyone was filled with awe, and many wonders and miraculous signs were done by the apostles. 44 All the believers were together and had everything in common. 45 Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. 46 Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts, 47 praising God and enjoying the favor of all the people. And the Lord added to their number daily those who were being saved.

2. Then we see collection being established on Sunday ...
It is certain that Apostle Paul is to visit them the same day and not a week later on Saturday. I hope you see why.

1CO 16:2 On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with his income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.


3. We see communion being celebrated (as well as preaching) on Sunday ...

AC 20:7 On the first day of the week we came together to break bread. Paul spoke to the people and, because he intended to leave the next day, kept on talking until midnight.

All believers gathering - Sunday
Communion - Sunday
Preaching - Sunday
Collection of money - Sunday

Consequently the Church service is celebrated on Sunday (the First Day).
It is very Scriptural.

Of course, as a matter of choice one could celebrate it any other day, as well.

But it is more Biblical to have a church service on the Day of the Resurrection.

Thanks,
In Christ,
Ed

The verses you quoted should read, "The first Sabbath" not the "First day of the week". Look at the original language, as well as, Lev. 23 for God's plan and timeline.

 

[Edial]

The verses you quoted should read, "The first Sabbath" not the "First day of the week". Look at the original language, as well as, Lev. 23 for God's plan and timeline.

I am looking at the original language.

Sabbaton also means week. 7 days. A week.

MT 28:1 After the Sabbath [sabbaton], at dawn on the first day of the week [sabbaton], Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

So, we have "after Saturday" at the first days of "sabbath" (week) ...

I looked at every translation ... (I could find) ... 1Cor 16:2
1 Corinthians 16:2 Multilingual: On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

Only Jubilee translation says the first Sabbath and the other 20 translations say first day of Sabbath (week), which is Sunday.

◄ 1 Corinthians 16:2 ►
New International Version
On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

New Living Translation
On the first day of each week, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned. Don't wait until I get there and then try to collect it all at once.

English Standard Version
On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

New American Standard Bible
On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

King James Bible
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
On the first day of the week, each of you is to set something aside and save in keeping with how he prospers, so that no collections will need to be made when I come.

International Standard Version
After the Sabbath ends, each of you should set aside and save something from your surplus in proportion to what you have, so that no collections will have to be made when I arrive.

NET Bible
On the first day of the week, each of you should set aside some income and save it to the extent that God has blessed you, so that a collection will not have to be made when I come.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
On every Sunday, let each person of you lay aside in his house and keep that which he can, so that when I come there will be no collections.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Every Sunday each of you should set aside some of your money and save it. Then money won't have to be collected when I come.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Each first sabbath let each one of you set aside in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no collections when I come.

King James 2000 Bible
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

American King James Version
On the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

American Standard Version
Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Douay-Rheims Bible
On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.

Darby Bible Translation
On the first of the week let each of you put by at home, laying up in whatever degree he may have prospered, that there may be no collections when I come.

English Revised Version
Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Webster's Bible Translation
Upon the first day of the week, let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no collections when I come.

Weymouth New Testament
On the first day of every week let each of you put on one side and store up at his home whatever gain has been granted to him; so that whenever I come, there may then be no collections going on.

World English Bible
On the first day of the week, let each one of you save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Young's Literal Translation
on every first day of the week, let each one of you lay by him, treasuring up whatever he may have prospered, that when I may come then collections may not be made;

 

[maco]

I am looking at the original language.

Sabbaton also means week. 7 days. A week.

MT 28:1 After the Sabbath [sabbaton], at dawn on the first day of the week [sabbaton], Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.

So, we have "after Saturday" at the first days of "sabbath" (week) ...

I looked at every translation ... (I could find) ... 1Cor 16:2
1 Corinthians 16:2 Multilingual: On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

Only Jubilee translation says the first Sabbath and the other 20 translations say first day of Sabbath (week), which is Sunday.

◄ 1 Corinthians 16:2 ►
New International Version
On the first day of every week, each one of you should set aside a sum of money in keeping with your income, saving it up, so that when I come no collections will have to be made.

New Living Translation
On the first day of each week, you should each put aside a portion of the money you have earned. Don't wait until I get there and then try to collect it all at once.

English Standard Version
On the first day of every week, each of you is to put something aside and store it up, as he may prosper, so that there will be no collecting when I come.

New American Standard Bible
On the first day of every week each one of you is to put aside and save, as he may prosper, so that no collections be made when I come.

King James Bible
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
On the first day of the week, each of you is to set something aside and save in keeping with how he prospers, so that no collections will need to be made when I come.

International Standard Version
After the Sabbath ends, each of you should set aside and save something from your surplus in proportion to what you have, so that no collections will have to be made when I arrive.

NET Bible
On the first day of the week, each of you should set aside some income and save it to the extent that God has blessed you, so that a collection will not have to be made when I come.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
On every Sunday, let each person of you lay aside in his house and keep that which he can, so that when I come there will be no collections.

GOD'S WORD® Translation
Every Sunday each of you should set aside some of your money and save it. Then money won't have to be collected when I come.

Jubilee Bible 2000
Each first sabbath let each one of you set aside in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no collections when I come.

King James 2000 Bible
Upon the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

American King James Version
On the first day of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as God has prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come.

American Standard Version
Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Douay-Rheims Bible
On the first day of the week let every one of you put apart with himself, laying up what it shall well please him; that when I come, the collections be not then to be made.

Darby Bible Translation
On the first of the week let each of you put by at home, laying up in whatever degree he may have prospered, that there may be no collections when I come.

English Revised Version
Upon the first day of the week let each one of you lay by him in store, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Webster's Bible Translation
Upon the first day of the week, let every one of you lay by him in store, as God hath prospered him, that there be no collections when I come.

Weymouth New Testament
On the first day of every week let each of you put on one side and store up at his home whatever gain has been granted to him; so that whenever I come, there may then be no collections going on.

World English Bible
On the first day of the week, let each one of you save, as he may prosper, that no collections be made when I come.

Young's Literal Translation
on every first day of the week, let each one of you lay by him, treasuring up whatever he may have prospered, that when I may come then collections may not be made;

The words, "day of the week" are not in the original language. It should read the first Sabbath, not first day of the week. Why would it be called the first Sabbath? Because according to Lev. 23 they had to could seven sabbaths starting after the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The week of Jesus' crucifixion there were two sabbaths. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was a sabbath, which would have been Thursday. Friday they bought the spices and then came the first Sabbath they had to count, which was the seventh day Sabbath. Read Lev. 23 or read my study it will walk you through.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Lets keep it simple...

Show me one Bible verse that says Sunday is the Lord's day?

There must be many verses that say Sunday is the Lord's day since just about the entire Christian community, who get their beliefs from the Bible, say Sunday is the Lord's day.

I'll be waiting...

Guess it's not so simple afterall



.

 

[maco]

Lets keep it simple...
Guess it's not so simple afterall
.

When you teach something unbiblical you have to tweak verses and skirt around words to make what you're saying fit the Bible. Lev. 23:4-8 and verse 15-16 give the timeline of events and details of the week of Jesus' crucifixion.

Passover was to be on the 14th day of the first month at twilight. The 15th day of the same month was to be a sabbath because it was the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. It was called a high sabbath because it only came once a year. They were to count seven sabbaths starting after the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread and then add one day. That brings you to Pentecost. This is the timeline of evens during the week of Jesus' crucifixion. You can not have a Friday evening death and a Sunday resurrection no matter how bad you want it to fit your unbiblical belief.

If you want a clear and easy refute of your timeline ask yourself when Mary bought the spices. Was it after the Sabbath or before the Sabbath? You might want to use your Bible for this one.

So yes, when you continue to hold on to a false belief and then twist the plan of God to fit it it does get very complicated for you.

 

[Timothew]

So, you are saying the early church met on Saturday, not the first day of the week, which is Sunday? "Keeping it simple", where does the NT say that the church met on Saturday? And where does it say that Saturday is the only day we are allowed to worship God? Remember to keep it simple and don't "tweak verses and skirt around words".

Why all the fuss over a day? Go worship God on Saturday if that's what you believe is proper. Allow others the freedom to worship God on Sunday. The Bible says "let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath."

In other words, "Don't let anyone judge you in regard to a Sabbath."
This is what the Bible says. If you want to worship on Saturday, don't let anyone judge you for it. If we worship on Sunday, don't judge us for it.
In fact, why don't we take this guy's advice?
"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.…"

 

[maco]

So, you are saying the early church met on Saturday, not the first day of the week, which is Sunday? "Keeping it simple", where does the NT say that the church met on Saturday? And where does it say that Saturday is the only day we are allowed to worship God? Remember to keep it simple and don't "tweak verses and skirt around words".

Why all the fuss over a day? Go worship God on Saturday if that's what you believe is proper. Allow others the freedom to worship God on Sunday. The Bible says "let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath."

In other words, "Don't let anyone judge you in regard to a Sabbath."
This is what the Bible says. If you want to worship on Saturday, don't let anyone judge you for it. If we worship on Sunday, don't judge us for it.
In fact, why don't we take this guy's advice?
"Do not judge so that you will not be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.…"

You can and should worship God seven days a week. Obeying the fourth commandment, in remembering the seventh day, is in itself, a form of worship. Not judging regarding the Sabbath is not regarding which day it is, but rather, what you do on the Sabbath. Don't get mad when someone shares Biblical truth. It's like getting mad at someone for saying adultery, stealing, worshiping idols and so on is not the will of God.

 

[Edial]

The words, "day of the week" are not in the original language. It should read the first Sabbath, not first day of the week. Why would it be called the first Sabbath? Because according to Lev. 23 they had to could seven sabbaths starting after the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. The week of Jesus' crucifixion there were two sabbaths. The first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was a sabbath, which would have been Thursday. Friday they bought the spices and then came the first Sabbath they had to count, which was the seventh day Sabbath. Read Lev. 23 or read my study it will walk you through.

I don't know where to find your study, but here is mine.

Yes, there were 2 Sabbaths on the week of death of Jesus Christ - Thursday (annual Sabbath) and Saturday (weekly Sabbath)
On Friday the women brought in spices and Saturday they rested.(Lk 23:56)
On Sunday morning there was a Holiday - sheaf of the wave offering.

LEV 23:15 " `From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, ...
​

Sheaf Offering is a yearly Holiday that is a day after weekly Sabbath.
On that day Christ was resurrected.
On that Holiday the firstfruit is waved, offered to God.

MT 28:1 After the Sabbath [plural, meaning Thursday's and Saturday's], at dawn on the "first day of the week", Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
​

Let's look at "the first day of the week".
The Greek does not have "day of the". It has "first" and "sabbaton".
Sabbaton may mean Sabbath OR week.
Which is it?

Weekly Sabbath is over.
Sheaf Offering is a Holiday of the Firstfruits. It is a Holiday.
Wave offering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That is why 19 out of 20 translators (as well as translators in other languages I happen to read) translate it as a "week" and not "sabbath".
Sabbaton may be translated as week or sabbath - two meanings.

Since Mt.28:1 says "after the Sabbath(s)" [plural], the word sabbaton of Sunday, which is a Holiday, means "week".

And since it is a "week" then the "first" develops a meaning of "first DAY of the week".


Also, after the resurrection we had the following as well.

(In John 20:24 (on Sunday) Thomas was skeptical to what the disciples were saying).
​

JN 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"
But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."

(Next Sunday Christ appeared among them)
​

JN 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
JN 20:28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
JN 20:29 Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

So Sunday became a day of Resurrection as well as worship (v.28) of Christ.

No wonder then that in the Epistles every translator (not only English languages) translated "first say of the week".
- sabbaton has 2 meanings (Sabbath or week)
- Sunday is a Holiday of Sheaf offering after the annual and weekly Sabbaths.

That is why every translator translates first sabbaton as first day of the week.
Thursday and Saturday Sabbaths were over by Sunday morning when women went to the tomb just before the Sunrise.

Thanks,
Ed

 

[Edial]

You can and should worship God seven days a week. Obeying the fourth commandment, in remembering the seventh day, is in itself, a form of worship. Not judging regarding the Sabbath is not regarding which day it is, but rather, what you do on the Sabbath. Don't get mad when someone shares Biblical truth. It's like getting mad at someone for saying adultery, stealing, worshiping idols and so on is not the will of God.

But the Biblical truth is that Sunday became a preferred day to worship.
Not the only day, of course.
http://www.christianforums.com/t7796562-post64809816/#poststop

 

[Timothew]

You can and should worship God seven days a week. Obeying the fourth commandment, in remembering the seventh day, is in itself, a form of worship. Not judging regarding the Sabbath is not regarding which day it is, but rather, what you do on the Sabbath. Don't get mad when someone shares Biblical truth. It's like getting mad at someone for saying adultery, stealing, worshiping idols and so on is not the will of God.

I'm not mad, you mad bro?

Man was not made for the sabbath, the sabbath was made for man. Heard that somewhere. I think it's true. It's not worth brothers fighting about.

 

[maco]

I don't know where to find your study, but here is mine.

Yes, there were 2 Sabbaths on the week of death of Jesus Christ - Thursday (annual Sabbath) and Saturday (weekly Sabbath)
On Friday the women brought in spices and Saturday they rested.(Lk 23:56)
On Sunday morning there was a Holiday - sheaf of the wave offering.

LEV 23:15 " `From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, ...
​

Sheaf Offering is a yearly Holiday that is a day after weekly Sabbath.
On that day Christ was resurrected.
On that Holiday the firstfruit is waved, offered to God.

MT 28:1 After the Sabbath [plural, meaning Thursday's and Saturday's], at dawn on the "first day of the week", Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
​

Let's look at "the first day of the week".
The Greek does not have "day of the". It has "first" and "sabbaton".
Sabbaton may mean Sabbath OR week.
Which is it?

Weekly Sabbath is over.
Sheaf Offering is a Holiday of the Firstfruits. It is a Holiday.
Wave offering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That is why 19 out of 20 translators (as well as translators in other languages I happen to read) translate it as a "week" and not "sabbath".
Sabbaton may be translated as week or sabbath - two meanings.

Since Mt.28:1 says "after the Sabbath(s)" [plural], the word sabbaton of Sunday, which is a Holiday, means "week".

And since it is a "week" then the "first" develops a meaning of "first DAY of the week".


Also, after the resurrection we had the following as well.

(In John 20:24 (on Sunday) Thomas was skeptical to what the disciples were saying).
​

JN 20:24 Now Thomas (called Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"
But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe it."

(Next Sunday Christ appeared among them)
​

JN 20:26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
JN 20:28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"
JN 20:29 Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

So Sunday became a day of Resurrection as well as worship (v.28) of Christ.

No wonder then that in the Epistles every translator (not only English languages) translated "first say of the week".
- sabbaton has 2 meanings (Sabbath or week)
- Sunday is a Holiday of Sheaf offering after the annual and weekly Sabbaths.

That is why every translator translates first sabbaton as first day of the week.
Thursday and Saturday Sabbaths were over by Sunday morning when women went to the tomb just before the Sunrise.

Thanks,
Ed

Hi Ed,

You are very close to the truth but let me ask you a question.

Since Jesus had to fulfill the shadows, as the sacrificial Lamb at Passover, which day was He crucified on in the timeline of crucifixion week?

Was He crucified on Passover that week, which is Wednesday the 14th?

Was He crucified on the first day of the Feast of Unleavend Bread, which was Thursday the 15th?

Was He crucified on the Friday the 16th?

Was He crucified on Saturday, the 17th?

 

[Edial]

Hi Ed,

You are very close to the truth but let me ask you a question.

Since Jesus had to fulfill the shadows, as the sacrificial Lamb at Passover, which day was He crucified on in the timeline of crucifixion week?

Was He crucified on Passover that week, which is Wednesday the 14th?

Was He crucified on the first day of the Feast of Unleavend Bread, which was Thursday the 15th?

Was He crucified on the Friday the 17th?

Was He crucified on Saturday, the 18th?

Well, I would rather prefer if you respond to the post.
Usually, asking leading questions often traps one off the common topic and exclusively into another's train of thought.
I'd rather we work each other's posts.

 

[maco]

Well, I would rather prefer if you respond to the post.
Usually, asking leading questions often traps one off the common topic and exclusively into another's train of thought.
I'd rather we work each other's posts.

If you answer my question it will clear everything up. But if you won't or can't then there is no need to go any further.

 

[Edial]

If you answer my question it will clear everything up. But if you won't or can't then there is no need to go any further.

Do you see anything wrong or incorrect with what I wrote?
I pointed out what I believed was incorrect in your post and worked off it.

Asking leading questions is often a method of diverting from what's on a plate.
I showed you the plate.
What's wrong with it?

Thanks.

 

[maco]

Do you see anything wrong or incorrect with what I wrote?
I pointed out what I believed was incorrect in your post and worked off it.

Asking leading questions is often a method of diverting from what's on a plate.
I showed you the plate.
What's wrong with it?

Thanks.

There is nothing in your study that says the seventh day Sabbath was transferred to the first day. This change came through the beast of Daniel and Revelation. In order for this change to be accepted by God's people there has to be biblical support for it. So how does this support come about? It comes about through delusion and tweaking God's word to make it appear the change came from God, but it didn't. Words such as, "Sunday is the Lord's day" has not Scriptural support yet just about the whole Christian community says it and believes it.

Today, most Christians have been taught the Jesus died on Friday and rose on Sunday morning. This too is a delusion used to support Sunday observance. Once you start removing these delusions and see the truth you can come out of Babylon.

So again, since Jesus had to fulfill the shadows, as the sacrificial Lamb at Passover, which day was He crucified on in the timeline of crucifixion week?

Was He crucified on Passover that week, which is Wednesday the 14th?

Or was He crucified on the first day of the Feast of Unleavend Bread, which was Thursday the 15th?

Or was He crucified on the Friday the 16th?

Or was He crucified on Saturday, the 17th?

Remember the words of Jesus Himself in how He said He must remain in the grave three days and three nights and rise on the third day, which is all according to God's plan.

 

[Edial]

Thanks for going post for post ...

There is nothing in your study that says the seventh day Sabbath was transferred to the first day. This change came through the beast of Daniel and Revelation. In order for this change to be accepted by God's people there has to be biblical support for it. So how does this support come about? It comes about through delusion and tweaking God's word to make it appear the change came from God, but it didn't. Words such as, "Sunday is the Lord's day" has not Scriptural support yet just about the whole Christian community says it and believes it.

But I never meant to say that the seventh day Sabbath was transferred to the first day.

What I said is my original post is this -

Let's look at "the first day of the week".
The Greek does not have "day of the". It has "first" and "sabbaton".
Sabbaton may mean Sabbath OR week.
Which is it?

Matthew 28 shows 2 Sabbaths in that week.
Thursday's - Annual Sabbath
Saturday - Weekly Sabbath
That is why Matthew uses PLURAL for Sabbath, as below.

MT 28:1 After the Sabbath [plural, meaning Thursday's and Saturday's], at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
​

What is happening After the Sabbath (plural)?
It is a sheaf of the wave offering in Leviticus. The day after Saturday, which is Sunday.

LEV 23:15 " `From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, ...
​

Sunday is a Sheath wave offering.
It is a Holiday. The day of this Holiday is on Sunday.
On that DAY Christ was resurrected.
The Leviticus text says that the holiday is a day after the weekly Sabbath.
Resurrection Day is on Wave Offering Holiday which is on Sunday.

That Wave Offering Holiday in Greek is stated as "on the first sabbadon"

But we do not KNOW whether or not sabbadon should be translated from Greek as WEEK or SABBATH.
Sabbadon is just a Greek word meaning either WEEK or SABBATH.

If we are to translate it as Sabbath then it would be "on the first Sabbath".
If we are to translate it as Week, then it would be "on the first of week". This option then needs to have word "day" added due to linguistics. So, the "first of the week" becomes "the first day of the week", with "day" as a necessary linguistic addition.

So, since Wave offering is a Holiday that is to happen AFTER both Sabbaths. And since BOTH Sabbaths are over (as per Matthew 28) on Saturday, the Greek word sabbadon of Sunday should be translated as WEEK and not SABBATH. Since the meaning of sabbadon is either Sabbath or Week.

That is why 19 out of 20 English translations (including from some other languages as well) translated it accurately as ...
"on the first day of week".

Today, most Christians have been taught the Jesus died on Friday and rose on Sunday morning. This too is a delusion used to support Sunday observance. Once you start removing these delusions and see the truth you can come out of Babylon.

Why use words like "delusion"?
And I am not in "Babylon", neither is the rest of the church.

A day of Christ's death is symbolic.
So is His birthday is symbolic.

The Bible however is clear as bell that the Resurrection day is Sunday.
- That is why, because the Sheaf Wave offering is on Sunday, according to Leviticus you referred to...
- And because "first sabbadon" in Greek COULD mean EITHER Sabbath of week.
- And because Matthew said that after (both) Sabbaths (he used a plural) the women went to the tomb. (And both Sabbaths being one on Thursday and another on Saturday).

The Sunday's reference to "first sabbadon" must be "first of the week", hence "on the first day of the week".

I showed you a study above and in other 2 posts that sabbadon of the Sheaf wave offering is to be translated as WEEK, because it MEANS a week.

So again, s

ince Jesus had to fulfill the shadows, as the sacrificial Lamb at Passover, which day was He crucified on in the timeline of crucifixion week?

Was He crucified on Passover that week, which is Wednesday the 14th?

Or was He crucified on the first day of the Feast of Unleavend Bread, which was Thursday the 15th?

Or was He crucified on the Friday the 16th?

Or was He crucified on Saturday, the 17th?

Remember the words of Jesus Himself in how He said He must remain in the grave three days and three nights and rise on the third day, which is all according to God's plan.

I thought I mentioned it indirectly by saying that women brought spices on Friday and rested on Saturday as per Luke.

He was probably crucified on Wednesday.
Then there was the Annual Sabbath on Thursday.
The ladies brought the spices on Friday.
The ladies rested on Saturday
The ladies rushed at the twilight, at the dawn early Sunday morning to the tomb.

So based on that Resurrection is on the First Day of the Week - the Lord's Day.
So is communion, so is collection, as Apostle Paul stated, so is worship (Doubting Thomas confessing "you are God" on Sunday).

The church is not delusional concerning Sunday worship.
It's in the Old Testament.

Thanks,
Ed

 

[maco]

Thanks for going post for post ...

But I never meant to say that the seventh day Sabbath was transferred to the first day.

What I said is my original post is this -

Let's look at "the first day of the week".
The Greek does not have "day of the". It has "first" and "sabbaton".
Sabbaton may mean Sabbath OR week.
Which is it?

Matthew 28 shows 2 Sabbaths in that week.
Thursday's - Annual Sabbath
Saturday - Weekly Sabbath
That is why Matthew uses PLURAL for Sabbath, as below.

MT 28:1 After the Sabbath [plural, meaning Thursday's and Saturday's], at dawn on the first day of the week, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to look at the tomb.
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What is happening After the Sabbath (plural)?
It is a sheaf of the wave offering in Leviticus. The day after Saturday, which is Sunday.

LEV 23:15 " `From the day after the Sabbath, the day you brought the sheaf of the wave offering, ...
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Sunday is a Sheath wave offering.
It is a Holiday. The day of this Holiday is on Sunday.
On that DAY Christ was resurrected.
The Leviticus text says that the holiday is a day after the weekly Sabbath.
Resurrection Day is on Wave Offering Holiday which is on Sunday.

That Wave Offering Holiday in Greek is stated as "on the first sabbadon"

But we do not KNOW whether or not sabbadon should be translated from Greek as WEEK or SABBATH.
Sabbadon is just a Greek word meaning either WEEK or SABBATH.

If we are to translate it as Sabbath then it would be "on the first Sabbath".
If we are to translate it as Week, then it would be "on the first of week". This option then needs to have word "day" added due to linguistics. So, the "first of the week" becomes "the first day of the week", with "day" as a necessary linguistic addition.

So, since Wave offering is a Holiday that is to happen AFTER both Sabbaths. And since BOTH Sabbaths are over (as per Matthew 28) on Saturday, the Greek word sabbadon of Sunday should be translated as WEEK and not SABBATH. Since the meaning of sabbadon is either Sabbath or Week.

That is why 19 out of 20 English translations (including from some other languages as well) translated it accurately as ...
"on the first day of week".




Why use words like "delusion"?
And I am not in "Babylon", neither is the rest of the church.

A day of Christ's death is symbolic.
So is His birthday is symbolic.

The Bible however is clear as bell that the Resurrection day is Sunday.
- That is why, because the Sheaf Wave offering is on Sunday, according to Leviticus you referred to...
- And because "first sabbadon" in Greek COULD mean EITHER Sabbath of week.
- And because Matthew said that after (both) Sabbaths (he used a plural) the women went to the tomb. (And both Sabbaths being one on Thursday and another on Saturday).

The Sunday's reference to "first sabbadon" must be "first of the week", hence "on the first day of the week".

I showed you a study above and in other 2 posts that sabbadon of the Sheaf wave offering is to be translated as WEEK, because it MEANS a week.


I thought I mentioned it indirectly by saying that women brought spices on Friday and rested on Saturday as per Luke.

He was probably crucified on Wednesday.
Then there was the Annual Sabbath on Thursday.
The ladies brought the spices on Friday.
The ladies rested on Saturday
The ladies rushed at the twilight, at the dawn early Sunday morning to the tomb.

So based on that Resurrection is on the First Day of the Week - the Lord's Day.
So is communion, so is collection, as Apostle Paul stated, so is worship (Doubting Thomas confessing "you are God" on Sunday).

The church is not delusional concerning Sunday worship.
It's in the Old Testament.

Thanks,
Ed

You are exactly right on the timeline with Jesus' death on Wednesday. Now Jesus said He would rise again on the third day. The third day is sunrise on Saturday morning. Since Saturday is the first Sabbath after the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread it would be the first Sabbath of the seven they would have counted following the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Not the first day of the week.

 

[Edial]

You are exactly right on the timeline with Jesus' death on Wednesday. Now Jesus said He would rise again on the third day. The third day is sunrise on Saturday morning. Since Saturday is the first Sabbath after the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread it would be the first Sabbath of the seven they would have counted following the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. Not the first day of the week.

Jesus rose from the dead after being in the tomb 3 day and 3 nights.

Day starts at sundown of the previous calendar day.

Crucified - Wednesday
Buried - Thursday
Spices - Friday
Sabbath rest for women - Saturday
Resurrection - early Sunday - sheaf wave offering Holiday - first of WEEK (shabbadon)

 

[prodromos]

Jesus rose from the dead after being in the tomb 3 day and 3 nights.

Learn and understand what Synecdoche means.

 

[maco]

Jesus rose from the dead after being in the tomb 3 day and 3 nights.

Day starts at sundown of the previous calendar day.

Crucified - Wednesday
Buried - Thursday
Spices - Friday
Sabbath rest for women - Saturday
Resurrection - early Sunday - sheaf wave offering Holiday - first of WEEK (shabbadon)

Wednesday at sunset is Thursday night then Thursday day, Thursday night at sunset is Friday night then Friday day, Friday night at sunset is Saturday night then Saturday day which is the third day. Jesus rises at sunrise on the third day. This is three days and three nights. If Jesus rose on Sunday morning it would be four nights and four days.