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Is he coming soon?

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Riberra

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A year is one orbit of the earth around the sun. Nothing more, nothing less.
A lunar calendar is a confusion and quickly puts the seasons out of place.
True....but the fact is that in the time of Daniel and in the time of John they used the lunar calendar based on 1 month = 30 days.

The time periods given in Daniel and Rev. are: 1260 days, 42 months and 3 1/2 years. All refer to the exact same time period, one half of Daniels 70th 'week'.
1260 days = 42(months) x30 (days)
Proof that Daniel and John used the lunar calendar for the timeline.

-Lunar calendar 1 month = 30 days.
 
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1260 days = 42(months) x30 (days)
Proof that Daniel and John used the lunar calendar for the timeline.
You omitted the 3 1/2 years.
Devious of you, because the fact that the 3 1/2 years is mentioned in conjunction with 1260 days in Revelation 12, confirms they ARE the same time period.
This fact proves that some kind of dramatic event will speed up the earths orbit to a 360 day year. Just as Isaiah 13:13, Isaiah 24:18-20 say the earth will be moved out of her place. Note Isaiah 23:18 tells us the window of the heavens are opened, Isaiah 13: 10, Isaiah 34:4 and Revelation 6:12-17 plus many others, all say how this change will be caused by a cosmic event.
 
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You omitted the 3 1/2 years.
Devious of you, because the fact that the 3 1/2 years is mentioned in conjunction with 1260 days in Revelation 12, confirms they ARE the same time period.
-Obviously they are the same time period...i never said otherwise !

I wanted to give you the honor to figure out how the 3 1/2 years fit with the lunar calendar .

3 1/2 years =42 months made of 30 days based on the Lunar Calendar
=1 260 days.


1 260 days = 42(months) x30 (days) = 3 1/2 years.
 
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I wanted to give you the honor to figure out how the 3 1/2 years fit with the lunar calendar .
3 1/2 years @ 360 days = 1260 days. 3 1/2 years @ 365.24 days = 1278.34 What to do with the extra 18 1/3 days?
I am not interested in the lunar calendar. That's a Jewish thing, not what is almost universally used; our Gregorian calendar.
I repeat, the earths orbital time must change in order for the time periods as given in Daniel and Revelation, to be fulfilled.
Ancient records show that there was a 360 day year before 1495 BC. Comet Typhon passed close by then and caused the earth to slow down to a 365.24 day year.
This time it will be the glancing blow of a massive CME, that will shake the earth from her place. Just as prophesied.
 
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3 1/2 years @ 365.24 days = 1278.34 What to do with the extra 18 1/3 days?
I am not interested in the lunar calendar. That's a Jewish thing, not what is almost universally used; our Gregorian calendar.
God does not care about our modern Gregorian calendar.... that explain why you arrive with the extra 18 1/3 days !

I repeat, the earths orbital time must change in order for the time periods as given in Daniel and Revelation, to be fulfilled.
No, keep it simple. No need to invent fanciful explanation....
God used 1 month = 30 days in Daniel prophecy about the 3 1/2 years and also in Revelation about the 3 1/2 years ---42 months =1260 days.

The simple solution is always the better... it fit perfectly with the 1260 days timeline... without extra days like you arrive with your calculation using our Gregorian calendar.

3 1/2 years =42 months made of 30 days based on the Lunar Calendar
=1260 days.

42 (months) x 30 (days)= 1260 days

3 1/2 years = 42 (months) x 30 (days) = 1260 days

Ancient records show that there was a 360 day year before 1495 BC. Comet Typhon passed close by then and caused the earth to slow down to a 365.24 day year.
Can you provide the source of that affirmation (?)...a scientific source would be great.
 
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1/2 years = 42 (months) x 30 (days) = 1260 days
But 1260 days is NOT 3 1/2 actual years, nor is 42 X 30 day months. The earth at present takes 1278 1/3 days to complete 3 1/2 years.
So much for your math skills and I failed at mathematics!
Can you provide the source of that affirmation (?)...a scientific source would be great.
Read 'Worlds in Collision', by Immanuel Velikovsky. Pages 90-92
He was a scientist, reviled by his peers because he contradicted them, but his research and conclusions that Comet Typhon severely affected the earth in 1495 BC, are impossible to refute.
 
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But 1260 days is NOT 3 1/2 actual years, nor is 42 X 30 day months. The earth at present takes 1278 1/3 days to complete 3 1/2 years.
So much for your math skills and I failed at mathematics!
You miss the point.
The point is that God do not care about the Gregorian calendar.... that explain why you arrive with the extra 18 1/3 days !

Read 'Worlds in Collision', by Immanuel Velikovsky. Pages 90-92
He was a scientist, reviled by his peers because he contradicted them, but his research and conclusions that Comet Typhon severely affected the earth in 1495 BC, are impossible to refute.
Really ? Venus ejected from Jupiter as a comet (Typhon) .... does it even worth the time needed to refute such a claim .

Worlds in Collision is a book written by Immanuel Velikovsky and first published April 3, 1950. The book postulated that around the 15th century BCE, Venus was ejected from Jupiter as a comet or comet-like object, and passed near Earth . The object changed Earth's orbit and axis, causing innumerable catastrophes that were mentioned in early mythologies and religions around the world. Many of the book's claims are completely rejected by the established scientific community as they are not supported by any available evidence.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worlds_in_Collision

If i can give you a tip ,avoid internet sites such the one below !
http://www.britam.org/megaliths/velikovskyworlds.html

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Immanuel Velikovsky claims .... have been refuted in 1997:
http://abob.libs.uga.edu/bobk/vdtopten.html
 
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You miss the point.
The point is that God do not care about the Gregorian calendar.... that explain why you arrive with the extra 18 1/3 days !
But that is how it is now: the earth takes 365 1/4 days to complete a year. So 1260 days and 42 X 30 months, do not add to 3 1/2 years at present.
YOU explain how that can be reconciled.

As for Velikovsky, I note you repeat the derogatory remarks and false accusations of those who don't like his work. The 'established scientific community', - believe everything they say, do you? In preference to Bible prophecy?
There WAS something that affected the earth in 1495 BC, There WAS a celestial object seen then, Chinese, Egyptian and even Hopi Indian records prove it. And now there WILL be again something that will cause the earth to shift from it's place. Isaiah 13:13
 
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But that is how it is now: the earth takes 365 1/4 days to complete a year. So 1260 days and 42 X 30 months, do not add to 3 1/2 years at present.
YOU explain how that can be reconciled.
Obviously the lunar calendar of 1 month =30 days is God's Calendar which will determine the timeline of the 1260 days/42 months/3 1/2 years.

God do not care about our Gregorian calendar of 365.24 days as you do.
 
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As for Velikovsky, I note you repeat the derogatory remarks and false accusations of those who don't like his work. The 'established scientific community', - believe everything they say, do you? In preference to Bible prophecy?
Velikovsky in Bible prophecies ?I never saw Velikovsky's name written in the Bible.
 
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