LDs Teach that the resurrected body will not have blood

[bbbbbbb]

I guess you didn't read the whole other posts after the first OP. There were posts as to God being flesh and bone. And other things as well. She wants non LDS participants. I obliged and quoted from a church father of Canonical sources. I could use non Canonical, but Orthodox Christians think it's being a heretic.

Are there any more rules I need to follow?

A simple "no, I don't believe the resurrected body will be flesh and blood" is my final answer.

Good. I can accept your answer. It seems evident that the LDS posters also concur with your answer. If so, then the purpose of the thread is complete. PhoebeAnn's OP stands as accepted doctrine within the LDS.

 

[Rescued One]

Jesus said that God is a Spirit. If a person believes Jesus, he will know that Jesus also said, "Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have." (Luke 24:39).

So the LDS god apparently has no blood, but has flesh and bones. That isn't the Father whom Christ revealed to us.

 

[williamgramsmith]

When defending the biblical faith, keep in mind the following:

1 Corinthians 15
42So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: 43It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: 44It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. 45And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 48As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly. 49And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

50Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption. 51Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, 52In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. 53For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality. 54So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

And nothing you have quoted contradicts LDS Theology. We after all have the Bible also, and believe on these words.

LDS teach that mortality is having a body with blood flowing through the veins. A resurrected body, according to their teachings, has no blood in the veins.

Yes, blood is a sole part of mortality. And?

Matthew 16
13When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am? 14And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets. 15He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? 16And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God. 17And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.

He's teaching that their "intellect" and "touch" did not teach them the truth of the thing, but the Spirit of God did. And?

Bible:
Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
John 4:24

Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
Luke 4:38

Both scriptures telling about the "pre" Resurrection visitation.

And? Is this supposed to debunk Mormonism in some way, saying "God" doesn't have a body? If so, you would be wrong, because Christ hadn't been resurrected yet. Mormons believe in spirits who have not yet had bodies and resurrected beings. Again, how does this debunk Mormonism?

LDS teach that God the Fatherhas a spirit and also a resurrected body of flesh and bones.

That's right, we do, because that's what the scriptures in full teach, even the Bible "alone".

 

[Ran77]

So the LDS god apparently has no blood, but has flesh and bones. That isn't the Father whom Christ revealed to us.

So you claim. Is there any reason why anyone should just accept that claim?


:o

 

[Rescued One]

So you claim. Is there any reason why anyone should just accept that claim?

Only those who believe what Christ said should. Those who don't believe Christ might as well believe anything they want to believe.

 

[Ran77]

Only those who believe what Christ said should. Those who don't believe Christ might as well believe anything they want to believe.

So anyone who doesn't just accept what you have to post is automatically a non-believer? Not a very solid rebuttal of my question. But I guess if you are all-knowing then those who don't question that attribute will be happy to be identified as a believer. However, for someone who doesn't bow down to mortals, there will need to be more to a claim than a person just saying it is so. Then again, that is how mainstream Christianity got into the situation they are in now.

 

[williamgramsmith]

Only those who believe what Christ said should. Those who don't believe Christ might as well believe anything they want to believe.

Mormons believe everything Christ has said and does say, for we read his words for ourselves.

We simply don't believe what you say he has said.

 

[Rescued One]

Mormons believe everything Christ has said and does say, for we read his words for ourselves.

We simply don't believe what you say he has said.

What did I say that he said? Did you read it?

 

[Ran77]

Mormons believe everything Christ has said and does say, for we read his words for ourselves.

:o

That's crazy talk!!!

The next thing you'll be saying is that we should do our own thinking or even - GASP - seek answers in earnest prayer.

I'm going to put my fingers in my ears and stop listening to your insanity.

LALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

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[bbbbbbb]

:o

That's crazy talk!!!

The next thing you'll be saying is that we should do our own thinking or even - GASP - seek answers in earnest prayer.

I'm going to put my fingers in my ears and stop listening to your insanity.

LALALALALALALALALALALALALALAL

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Oddly enough, when I did my own thinking and sought answers in earnest prayer, God graciously answered and revealed to me that Mormonism is a false religion and Joseph Smith was a false prophet. Needless to say, this has not endeared me to Mormons.

BTW, I am also not near and dear to Muslims for similar reasons.

 

[Ran77]

Oddly enough, when I did my own thinking and sought answers in earnest prayer, God graciously answered and revealed to me that Mormonism is a false religion and Joseph Smith was a false prophet. Needless to say, this has not endeared me to Mormons.

Excellent.

I'm glad to hear that you followed the suggested path.

BTW, I am also not near and dear to Muslims for similar reasons.

Did you mean to compare us to terrorists? There are several non-Christian religions abroad. Why compare us to them?

 

[bbbbbbb]

Excellent.

I'm glad to hear that you followed the suggested path.




Did you mean to compare us to terrorists? There are several non-Christian religions abroad. Why compare us to them?

No, Muslims are not, in the aggregate, terrorists. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people who really and sincerely want to follow God. I think this is true of Mormons as well. One can find bad apples in any barrel, as we all know. The comparison was with the methodology used in Islam to peacefully gain converts. One reads an "interpretation" of the Qu'ran (this book is only written in Arabic and it is forbidden to translate it into other languages, hence anything we view as a translation of it is called an interpretation). One then sincerely prayers for Allah to reveal to him the truth of the Qu'ran and of Mohammed with the expectation that Allah will be pleased to do so. If he does not, it is usually considered that the individual is somehow at fault for either not having read the Qu'ran in sincerity or having prayed in sincerity.

There are also non-peaceful methods of conversion in Islam, but my analogy is limited to the above.

 

[Ran77]

No, Muslims are not, in the aggregate, terrorists. The vast majority of Muslims are peaceful people who really and sincerely want to follow God. I think this is true of Mormons as well. One can find bad apples in any barrel, as we all know. The comparison was with the methodology used in Islam to peacefully gain converts. One reads an "interpretation" of the Qu'ran (this book is only written in Arabic and it is forbidden to translate it into other languages, hence anything we view as a translation of it is called an interpretation). One then sincerely prayers for Allah to reveal to him the truth of the Qu'ran and of Mohammed with the expectation that Allah will be pleased to do so. If he does not, it is usually considered that the individual is somehow at fault for either not having read the Qu'ran in sincerity or having prayed in sincerity.

There are also non-peaceful methods of conversion in Islam, but my analogy is limited to the above.

Okay. Just wanted to make sure you weren't making that sort of connection with your comment. Thanks for clearing it up.

 

[bbbbbbb]

Okay. Just wanted to make sure you weren't making that sort of connection with your comment. Thanks for clearing it up.

You are welcome.