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Actually, post #113 I addressed to no one-I simply threw it out there---
-- http://catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/origin.htm
ROMAN CATHOLICISM. The largest of the Christian denominations is the Roman Catholic church. As an institution it has existed since the 1st century AD...The name of the church is derived from its base in Rome and from a Greek term meaning "universal." The word Catholic refers to the wholeness of the church, and for many centuries the Roman church claimed to be the only true Christian denomination.(Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia © 1996)
ROMAN CATHOLICISM: Christian church characterized by its uniform, highly developed doctoral and organizational structure that traces its history to the apostles of Jesus Christ in the 1st century C.E. (Marriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions © 1999, page 938 )
The history of the Roman Church, therefore, in relation to the ancient oriental churches, is in fact, the history of this claim to supremacy. The claim of supremacy on the part of the bishop of Rome rests on the belief that Christ conferred on the apostle Peter a 'primacy of jurisdiction;' that Peter fixed his see and died at Rome and thus, that the bishops of Rome, as successors of the apostle Peter, have succeeded to his preorgatives of supremacy. In this light, historians read the facts of the early history of the church---and they trace to this acknoledgment of the superiority of that see, the numerous references to Rome on matters of doctrine or discipline; the appeals from other churhces, even those of Alexandria, Antioch, and Constantinople; the depositions or nominations of bishops, examination and condemnation of heresies---of which the first five centuries, especially the 4th and 5th, present examples. . . In all the controversies on the Incarnation---the Arian, the Nestorian, the Eutychian, the Monothelite---not only was the orthodoxy of Rome never impeached, but she even supplied at every crisis a rallying point for the orthodox of every church. ( Imperial Encyclopedia and Dictionary, Volume 32 © 1903)
LOL--who said I could!---That is why there are many websites available that do the translations from the original and you can find out just about anything.
I didn't start quoting your posts until Post #115----And what is there to explain about those verses? They seem to me pretty self explanatory.---And that I "amiga" ---
I already said God destroyed a whole world, not just Sodom and Gomorrah--and there were others--what is your point?? What does that have to do with being tormented in hell for ever and ever?? Actually, the imaginary boy could be younger --the age of accountability--and for some denominations that includes babies who are not baptized before they die. And if there is something about Romans 4 and 5 you wish me to know, then spit it out--I have no idea how they relate to everlasting torment in hell.---Keep it simple, I also do not need a long dissertation.
-- http://catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/origin.htm
ROMAN CATHOLICISM. The largest of the Christian denominations is the Roman Catholic church. As an institution it has existed since the 1st century AD...The name of the church is derived from its base in Rome and from a Greek term meaning "universal." The word Catholic refers to the wholeness of the church, and for many centuries the Roman church claimed to be the only true Christian denomination.(Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia © 1996)
ROMAN CATHOLICISM: Christian church characterized by its uniform, highly developed doctoral and organizational structure that traces its history to the apostles of Jesus Christ in the 1st century C.E. (Marriam-Webster's Encyclopedia of World Religions © 1999, page 938 )
The history of the Roman Church, therefore, in relation to the ancient oriental churches, is in fact, the history of this claim to supremacy. The claim of supremacy on the part of the bishop of Rome rests on the belief that Christ conferred on the apostle Peter a 'primacy of jurisdiction;' that Peter fixed his see and died at Rome and thus, that the bishops of Rome, as successors of the apostle Peter, have succeeded to his preorgatives of supremacy. In this light, historians read the facts of the early history of the church---and they trace to this acknoledgment of the superiority of that see, the numerous references to Rome on matters of doctrine or discipline; the appeals from other churhces, even those of Alexandria, Antioch, and Constantinople; the depositions or nominations of bishops, examination and condemnation of heresies---of which the first five centuries, especially the 4th and 5th, present examples. . . In all the controversies on the Incarnation---the Arian, the Nestorian, the Eutychian, the Monothelite---not only was the orthodoxy of Rome never impeached, but she even supplied at every crisis a rallying point for the orthodox of every church. ( Imperial Encyclopedia and Dictionary, Volume 32 © 1903)
LOL--who said I could!---That is why there are many websites available that do the translations from the original and you can find out just about anything.
I didn't start quoting your posts until Post #115----And what is there to explain about those verses? They seem to me pretty self explanatory.---And that I "amiga" ---
I already said God destroyed a whole world, not just Sodom and Gomorrah--and there were others--what is your point?? What does that have to do with being tormented in hell for ever and ever?? Actually, the imaginary boy could be younger --the age of accountability--and for some denominations that includes babies who are not baptized before they die. And if there is something about Romans 4 and 5 you wish me to know, then spit it out--I have no idea how they relate to everlasting torment in hell.---Keep it simple, I also do not need a long dissertation.
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