Knowing the "heart" (and mind maybe) of God...?

[Neogaia777]

Scripture , Jesus said can not be broken, Peter said scripture is inspired BY the Holy Spirit.
Those words in the NT are also the scriptures and also not the depressed writings of false apostles.

All scripture is inspired by God. Meaning those words are as if spoken or written by His mind and hand.
No it is not 'magic', they are pure words from God's heart, it is also how you can know you have eternal life in Christ .

Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

They enlighten your mind and guard the paths of your feet. If you stray you suffer.

Psalm 68:11
The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

They were not perfect and no one is, and we are to learn truth about the/their human condition as well as learn form their words also...

God wanted to convey to us through them the truth about the human condition as well as the truth about himself (in relation to that) (the/our human condition) also...

And apparently, you just cannot see that...

Look, no offense, but your words reek with the stench of pride, and that blinds you, and keeps you from the truth, so...

God Bless!

 

[Mel2020]

Noone can know the mind of God because its mind-blowing!

We cannot fathom how certain things work if we knew what God was thinking because we are not wired to do so. Our brains can only handle up to the capacity that it is designed. I think what you mean is knowing God in spirit? Yes, because He gave His Holy Spirit to us, for us. He didn’t give us His mind, did he? (Rhetoric question).

These are two distinctive things;
1. Gods mind, which is something we can never know, nor handle because He is too Great and our puny minds wouldn’t be able to process it, and
2. Gods spirit or heart, which has been given to us through the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 40:13 ESV
“Who has measured the Spirit of the Lord, or what man shows him his counsel?”

Blessings.

 

[Neogaia777]

Noone can know the mind of God because its mind-blowing!

We cannot fathom how certain things work if we knew what God was thinking because we are not wired to do so. Our brains can only handle up to the capacity that it is designed. I think what you mean is knowing God in spirit? Yes, because He gave His Holy Spirit to us, for us. He didn’t give us His mind, did he? (Rhetoric question).

These are two distinctive things;
1. Gods mind, which is something we can never know, nor handle because He is too Great and our puny minds wouldn’t be able to process it, and
2. Gods spirit or heart, which has been given to us through the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 40:13 ESV
“Who has measured the Spirit of the Lord, or what man shows him his counsel?”

Blessings.

Sorry, but I don't believe that, for reasons already stated in this thread...

If we are to at all though, it would mean knowing his "heart" first...

The way he "feels" or felt, before we can possibly know his mind or what or how he "thinks"...

Do you think it is possible to know God's "heart"...?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

Scripture , Jesus said can not be broken, Peter said scripture is inspired BY the Holy Spirit.
Those words in the NT are also the scriptures and also not the depressed writings of false apostles.

All scripture is inspired by God. Meaning those words are as if spoken or written by His mind and hand.
No it is not 'magic', they are pure words from God's heart, it is also how you can know you have eternal life in Christ .

Psalm 12:6
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times.

They enlighten your mind and guard the paths of your feet. If you stray you suffer.

Psalm 68:11
The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

Apparently, your just here to argue, and not to really learn or discuss anything, or be open to anything new, so...

Sad...

God Bless!

 

[faroukfarouk]

Noone can know the mind of God because its mind-blowing!

We cannot fathom how certain things work if we knew what God was thinking because we are not wired to do so. Our brains can only handle up to the capacity that it is designed. I think what you mean is knowing God in spirit? Yes, because He gave His Holy Spirit to us, for us. He didn’t give us His mind, did he? (Rhetoric question).

These are two distinctive things;
1. Gods mind, which is something we can never know, nor handle because He is too Great and our puny minds wouldn’t be able to process it, and
2. Gods spirit or heart, which has been given to us through the Holy Spirit.

Isaiah 40:13 ESV
“Who has measured the Spirit of the Lord, or what man shows him his counsel?”

Blessings.

"I the LORD search the heart" (Jeremiah 17.10).

 

[Mel2020]

Do you think it is possible to know God's "heart"...?

God Bless!

Yes, through His Holy Spirit.

 

[razzelflabben]

I did not really understand the OP question and after reading the responses I am not sure I still do...the responses seem to be a lot of back and forth about who is and who is not believing scripture.

So let me explain where I stand as best as I understand the OP question and see if we can get any further.

As I see and understand scripture, we can know the heart and mind of God, that being said, it is a limited understanding just as Christ was limited in His understanding when He put on flesh and dwelt among us. That limit is both our limitations as being in the flesh, not fully yielding ourselves to God and what God Himself wants to reveal or not reveal to us. His authority is absolute so if He says "no I don't want you to know X" then we won't know X.

I Personally think there is a great deal of wisdom in this understanding of knowing God in that it calls us to go ever deeper into our relationship with the living God and in that going deeper learn more and more about both His heart and mind. Our example is Christ and though we cannot hope to understand as He did, we can follow His example of listening, praying, trusting, obeying the Father to such a degree that it astounds the wisdom of man and is a sweet aroma to the Living God.

 

[Neogaia777]

Isaiah 55: "I the LORD search the heart".

An he encourages us to seek out, and to find out, and search out, and know his (heart) as well, don't you think...?

Or do you not think that is possible as well...?

God Bless!

 

[Mel2020]

"I the LORD search the heart" (Jeremiah 17.10).

Amen.

1 Samuel 16:7
“But the LORD said to Samuel, "Don't judge by his appearance or height, for I have rejected him. The LORD doesn't see things the way you see them. People judge by outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."

 

[Neogaia777]

Yes, through His Holy Spirit.

Awesome, then, how do or how can we know, or what do you think is God's "heart"...?

Thanks,

God Bless!

 

[faroukfarouk]

Amen.

1 Samuel 16:7
“But the LORD said to Samuel, "Don't judge by his appearance or height, for I have rejected him. The LORD doesn't see things the way you see them. People judge by outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."

You know your Bible.

 

[Neogaia777]

His heart is the heart of a "savior" or someone who tries and works very hard to save everyone if he can (also a deliverer, a rescuer, a way maker)... But also experiences emotions, and feelings geared around failure and defeat and frustration with that also...

Maybe we can start there...?

God Bless!

 

[Neogaia777]

His heart is the heart of a "savior" or someone who tries and works very hard to save everyone if he can... But also experiences emotions, and feelings geared around failure and defeat and frustration with that also...

Maybe we can start there...?

God Bless!

And if you know a thing or two about this, you can "relate" personally...

And perhaps by that, begin to know a few things about him (God) and his heart...

God Bless!

 

[Colter]

Knowing the "heart" (and mind) of God...?

Is this possible...? And if so, what is it (God's heart) like...? According to all the information we have on him (God) or this (his heart), in all the scriptures...?

This came up because of these posts in this thread:

Was or is YHWH, or the God that interacted with men in the OT 100% completely omniscient...?

Was or is YHWH, or the God that interacted with men in the OT 100% completely omniscient...?

What do you think...?

Comments...?

God Bless!

The scriptures always have and always will reflect the beliefs of the authors in the age in which they are written. The scriptures are finite men writing about the infinite God. That being the case man tends to create God in his own image. The OT scriptures are very conflicted and biased towards the culture that wrote them.

The closest representation in the scriptures of God is Jesus, to the extent that his words were accurately remembered. The presentation of God in the scriptures actually improve from beginning up until the Book of Revelation.

 

[Mel2020]

An he encourages us to seek out, and to find out, and search out, and know his (heart) as well, don't you think...?

Or do you not think that is possible as well...?

God Bless!

Of course, it’s called pursuing Gods heart, through His Word and the Holy Spirit.

Not His mind - because, well we are but specs on this earth.

Isaiah 40:28

“Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.”

 

[Neogaia777]

The scriptures always have and always will reflect the beliefs of the authors in the age in which they are written. The scriptures are finite men writing about the infinite God. That being the case man tends to create God in his own image. The OT scriptures are very conflicted and biased towards the culture that wrote them.

The closest representation in the scriptures of God is Jesus, to the extent that his words were accurately remembered. The presentation of God in the scriptures actually improve from beginning up until the Book of Revelation.

So, you don't believe that they were telling the truth about God then, or what...?

Or that their words were inspired by the Holy Spirit of God...?

Cause I don't believe that...

God Bless!

 

[faroukfarouk]

Of course, it’s called pursuing Gods heart, through His Word and the Holy Spirit.

Not His mind - because, well we are but specs on this earth.

Isaiah 40:28

“Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.”

We do indeed need to keep searching the Scriptures daily with a prayerful, Berean spirit.

 

[Neogaia777]

Of course, it’s called pursuing Gods heart, through His Word and the Holy Spirit.

Not His mind - because, well we are but specs on this earth.

Isaiah 40:28

“Do you not know? Have you not heard? The LORD is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary, and his understanding no one can fathom.”

Let's focus on his heart first, and then we will only then know if knowing his mind is possible or not, K...?

God Bless!

 

[Erik Nelson]

Yes, through His Holy Spirit.

Maybe everyone could agree. That the divine has revealed some aspects of divine will and divine intent. Yet humans can never grasp the whole entire totality of divine intelligence?. We know some things because we were told, but not all things, namely those we weren't told.

 

[Colter]

So, you don't believe that they were telling the truth about God then, or what...?

Or that their words were inspired by the Holy Spirit of God...?

Cause I don't believe that...

God Bless!

No, I believe that the kind of people who killed Jesus were perfectly capable of human imperfection and racial bias.

Their words were "inspired" by the doings of God like Hallmark TV movies are "inspired" by real events.