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I've proved you wrong several times over but instead of addressing what I said and what scripture says you change the topic and then claim that I didn't prove what I claimed...that doesn't really bother me because I don't think you know you are doing it but I will say this, I have recently been more direct in my wording if that doesn't help maybe we need to be done.
which part of what you are saying...I posted a whole long piece about the HS that proved you wrong that we cannot know the heart and mind of God through the HS and instead of accepting that you change the topic to worshiping the HS...so I challenged you to provide any passage where scripture asks us to worship any part of the trinity and that is where it will have to stay for the moment...waiting for you to show any passage where Christ or the Father asks or commands our worship...not that we give it or would give our worship to God but where either the Father or Son command, demand, ask our worship
I already did, John 10:29 and John 14:12...?
You did...? I don't think you did...? Show where again then...? (That I am wrong about the Father and the Son)... Cause I don't think you did...? And show me from scripture please...?
Scripture about the H.S. does not show me, nor does it say anything about me being wrong about the Father and the Son...? Again, show me that please...
Show me I am wrong about the Father and the Son from scripture please...?
neither of those says that we are to worship God in any form much less to worship Father and Son but not HS...come now...you challenged me to show how we can know the heart and mind of God through the HS and I presented you with a host of passages showing that so that you came along and said, no I want to know where we are to worship the HS...only to come back and refuse to present passages that tell us to worship the Father or the Son...so which discussion are you wanting to have, one about who we worship or one about how to know the heart and mind of God, cause I am showing you scriptural proof to back both my claims but you have offered no scripture to back your claims.
I don't even have a clue what you are trying to say here...the Father, Son, and HS are one according to scripture. To deny that means you do not believe in trinity and that is a whole different discussion we would need to have.
maybe it is time to have a scriptural discussion about the trinity...are you game?
part of this is scriptural part is your opinions and thus false...
I have shown you where you are wrong and instead of addressing it you change the topic which is where a lot of the confusion comes into your posts.
no time to go back and repost for you at the moment, actually I won't have time for a couple of days since we have a funeral to go to...if you can't reread it for yourself I'll try to get back to it when I have time but you are going to need to be more specific and stop changing the topic since some of the things you talk about we agree on and some are totally against scripture.
lol this is what I keep telling you...I claimed that we could learn a lot about the heart and mind of God through the HS and you challenged me to present evidence of that which I did, then you came along and said no, I didn't evidence that we can learn about the heart and mind of God through the indwelling HS because I didn't show passages that say the HS wants our worship....lol Now which do you want? Cause I am telling you I know of no passage where God in any form demands, commands, or asks for our worship...as to the rest, we already talked about Christ willingly submitting Himself to the Father and I presented the PHIL. passage that showed He had the authority but chose not to accept that authority of equality...but that says nothing about the three not being one nor about worship of one or two but not all three or whatever else you want to change the claim to.
apparently neither you nor I has a clue what you are claiming since the claims and challenges keep changing at will.
Go back through the posts...
wow....the tone of this post is very...cold considering I told you I would be gone for a day or two due to a funeral. I mean it's kind of hard to address posts when I am out of town.
lol to make that claims is nothing more than evidence you do NOT know me at all. I love questions, the more challenging the better I like them. I refuse to avoid questions...that is just not in my nature...so maybe you need to rethink some of your ideas about me before you step over a line and accuse me of things that are not true. If you hold to one thing instead of changing the goal we will get along great.
I don't know which part you are talking about at this point as per the above post...you will have to be more specific since I am not a mind reader nor do I have the patience at the moment for more goal post moving from you.
you can specify which thing you have said you want me to address. I have told you before I don't think your passages are wrong, I think your conclusions are wrong...iows I think you are taking a basic teaching in scripture, throw out any passage that balances the teaching then inflate the chosen passages into things that it does NOT say.
You have posted many different beliefs and I have addressed every single one. I am really not sure why you think I haven't other than the changing of topics which you confessed to doing. Maybe it's your grief I don't know grief is a very difficult thing...I remember when our son died I might have said some very disjointed sounding things, maybe that is what you are doing and I do pray for your comfort during your time of grief, but you cannot expect me to read your mind about what you want me to talk about. If you say, X and I respond to X you cannot just say, no I wanted you to talk about Y...and expect that to be effective communication.
Why bother...
I absolutely did address this...so let's try it again...I'll only give you one passage incase the multiple passages is tripping you up.
lol I have and I do...I'm not sure you do though as per many of your posts that refuse to see scripture in it's entirety.
lol this is currently my life with one of my children and yes, I understand that part of Christ's love for mankind but nothing in that says anything about what you are trying to claim here about Christ being the God of the OT...He is and He isn't...He is all knowing and yet He limited HIs knowledge all at the same time...NOT either or but Both/And.
huh? and again, huh? you are the one that said that God the Father and God the Son want our worship but God the HS doesn't and would be offended if we worshiped Him...I am telling you your wrong...that God all parts of God are to be worshiped equally because He is ONE not three and that all three are equal and yet not equal at all. I really have no clue what you are trying to accuse me of saying here to even know what you want me to evidence since I said that our worship is of God not any or some of the "parts" of the trinity that you previously claimed....I don't know, you really stumped me on that one.
lol actually you did, but that is okay, you don't have to fess up to it and I am not going to take the time right now to go back and quote it just for you to ignore or claim something different.
oiy, you could just be up front and say what you want to say rather than try to get me involved in threads I don't really have time to put into right now.
