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Kanye West's long-awaited 'Jesus Is King' debuts at No. 1, tying Eminem's record

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Johnboy53, Nov 4, 2019.

  1. LaBèlla

    LaBèlla ❤️ Supporter

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    You have every imaginable sin on this site. I’ve seen criminals, satanists, and blasphemers embraced. Behavior isn’t the issue.

    Wealth is frequently derided on CF. Whether the person is a believer is immaterial. The negative comments continue and the political threads are full of them.

    ~Bella
     
  2. rambot

    rambot Senior Member

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    I think your confusing wealth with greed.
     
  3. LaBèlla

    LaBèlla ❤️ Supporter

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    No, I understand the difference. But many assume they’re one in the same.

    ~Bella
     
  4. A_Thinker

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    It will soon be evident whether Kanye desires to influence and/or commodify christianity ... or let Christ change him. The rich need prayer as well. Jesus said that it is hard for them to enter into the kingdom.

    I recall that Paul's conversion was met with much skepticism, as well. But it is certainly appropriate to be discerning.

    Kanye appears to be in a search for meaning in his life.

    Let's give him some time ... and prayer ... along with all other Christ-seekers. He should be exhibiting the character of a follower for a good while, so it wouldn't be wise for christians to flock to him (as if he were a leader). Time will manifest the truth.
     
  5. Nithavela

    Nithavela Building a stairway to home depot

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    For that amount of Moolah, I'd pretend to be a christian.
     
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  6. Aussie Pete

    Aussie Pete Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Absolutely. The hero worship of "celebrities" is evil. It just feeds their ego. I remember the time when Bob Dylan was supposedly saved. He also produced a "Christian" record. It had a Christian message but it was lifeless. I saw no change in Mr Dylan. I hope we do not say the same about Kayne in a year or two.
     
  7. Kaon

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    He said he sold his soul to the devil and it was a crappy deal, but at least it came with a few toys (riches) like a happy meal.

    People choose. Kanye is an adult and he knows what He is doing. Don't cast pearls before swine.
     
  8. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    I doubt people on here Are praying for people on this forum. Unless its put on a pray request. Even with that. I doubt people prayer much.I do believe there a lot of people pretending to pray. To make someone fill good.
     
  9. A_Thinker

    A_Thinker Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Why such a poor opinion of your fellow believers ?
     
  10. LaBèlla

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    I pray often through the requests shared and follow up with those I’m acquainted with. If you have a need I hope you’ll share and trust it hasn’t been ignored.

    ~Bella
     
  11. Kaon

    Kaon Well-Known Member

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    Most of us prove the poster right, especially on these forums.
     
  12. grasping the after wind

    grasping the after wind That's grasping after the wind

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    Is there some reason one could not pray for both?
     
  13. Kaon

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    Celebrities choose to be idols - ignorantly or not. They are a different entity than even a regular rich person. The Word of God tells us not to cast our pearls before swine; it is our job to discern people by their fruits, and judge their character accordingly.

    So, it is sort of a slap in the face to tell millions of people to pray for a man that has incredible resources, claimed he sold his soul, chose to go into darkness, and is now choosing to exploit Christianity. We need to be cognizant of the blasphemy, and we should reserve our precious prayers for people who are (indeed) suffering.

    If we were involved in our community like we should be - healing the sick, casting out demons, taking care of the poor, and spreading truth and knowledge - then celebrities wouldn't have to do it, nor would they have the platform to even attempt to exploit it.
     
  14. mala

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    no reason whatsoever. but in a world where people are fleeing for their lives, being kept in internment camps and so forth. the exploits of an whiny idiot child man should hardly be worth a second.
    but americans sure do love to pray for their celebrities.
     
  15. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    Strangers on a forum.
     
  16. RDKirk

    RDKirk Alien, Pilgrim, and Sojourner Supporter

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    The Lord saved Bill O'Hair (the kid who was at the center of the Supreme Court decision that took prayer out of schools--Jesus got him anyway). The Lord saved Jane Fonda. The Lord even saved the cannibal murderer Jeffrey Dahmer. The Holy Spirit is a continual wonder in who He can reach.

    So the Lord can save Kanye West, and I agree that none of us out here in the world has the inside information to judge whether Kanye is "really" saved. However, I would make this point from scripture: "A church leader must not be a new believer, because he might become proud, and the devil would cause him to fall." -- 1 Timothy 3:6

    Someone will object, "But nobody has made Kanye a church pastor!" However, we in America have a tendency to idolize and follow celebrities. Already Kanye is being invited to lead church services, to speak in public, and he already has a following. Conservative evangelicals have been quick to make him an example to guide African-Americans to vote Republican. Yes, he is being made a leader.

    Someone will object: "But look at Paul!" Paul, however, was under the tutelage of Christ for 16 years before anyone handed him a microphone. Paul was not a new believer when he began his evangelistic mission. Kanye is a new Christian who has been handed a mic and has people looking to him for leadership.

    And that sets him up to be prey for Satan
     
  17. Mountainmanbob

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    We see it all around us.
    They throw His name in vain out there
    heard in many, many movies these days.
    M
     
  18. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    You could pray or pretend to pray for who ever you want. I could understand praying for a celebrity in trouble. Or a celebrity you like. But I believe there's just to many people to pray for. Celebs or most people don't even come to mind.
     
  19. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    How do we know these people are save?
     
  20. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN I'm praying for my dad to get well.

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    Very true. I had respect for Republicans / Christians and other religions. But it gets less and less everyday. Democrats wasn't much of a thought when I was younger.
     
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