Kansas school forced 8-year-old Native American boy to cut his hair, ACLU says

[RDKirk]

I don't think that school district should make an exemption, I think they should just dump the rule altogether.

They're Gen X and Millennials. I don't know why they have that rule anyway. I'm continually amazed by that.

 

[ozso]

They're Gen X and Millennials. I don't know why they have that rule anyway. I'm continually amazed by that.

Perhaps it's been on the books for a long time.

It's certainly weird to me considering how long I wore my hair as a schoolboy back in the 70s.

 

[RDKirk]

Perhaps it's been on the books for a long time.

It's certainly weird to me considering how long I wore my hair as a schoolboy back in the 70s.

They're Gen X and Millennials. I don't know why they've kept that rule on the books anyway. I'm continually amazed by that.

 

[rambot]

I don't think that school district should make an exemption, I think they should just dump the rule altogether.

I think both....

 

[ozso]

I think both....

I remember the company I worked for had a no beard policy, but they were letting Muslim employees wear a beard. And my thought was the most fair thing to do was let all employees wear a beard, especially since I wanted to wear a beard myself. Then a newer company bought them out and they didn't have a no beard policy. And as far as I've seen the no beard policy just doesn't exist within the industry any longer, rather than exceptions being made.

 

[rambot]

I remember the company I worked for had a no beard policy, but they were letting Muslim employees wear a beard. And my thought was the most fair thing to do was let all employees wear a beard, especially since I wanted to wear a beard myself. Then a newer company bought them out and they didn't have a no beard policy. And as far as I've seen the no beard policy just doesn't exist within the industry any longer, rather than exceptions being made.

To clarify, what I mean is that exceptions should be made until such time that the policy can (and should) change.

 

[essentialsaltes]

In related news...

Baptist pastor, Christian college president apologizes for allowing male speaker with long hair​

Pastor John Wilkerson of First Baptist Church of Hammond in Indiana, who also serves as president of Hyles-Anderson College apologized to church members after he was criticized for allowing a man from a local creationist group to address the church and school while sporting hair they considered too long and quoting Scripture from the NIV translation of the Bible.

[From a prominent complaint letter:]
A long-haired hippie teaching in the pulpit is in direct contradiction to Scripture. 1 Corinthians 11:14 says, 'Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?'” wrote Domelle. “I don't know anything about this man, but I do know that to have long hair is a shame. It does not matter what he was going to teach, the fact that he blatantly disobeys God’s Word should have alerted anyone to his spiritual discernment and that he is to be disqualified to teach people.”

 

[DaisyDay]

I remember the company I worked for had a no beard policy, but they were letting Muslim employees wear a beard. And my thought was the most fair thing to do was let all employees wear a beard, especially since I wanted to wear a beard myself. Then a newer company bought them out and they didn't have a no beard policy. And as far as I've seen the no beard policy just doesn't exist within the industry any longer, rather than exceptions being made.

Such is fashion. We've had about a century of men's facial hair being shaven for the most part - perhaps the pendulum is swinging back toward beards, mustaches and sideburns!

 

[Ana the Ist]

However it is common today to get religious exemptions from various rules and laws.

Was his hair a matter of religious practice?

 

[Chesterton]

Well I was in Walmart awhile back and this employee stocking the shelves had bright neon pink hair. "Back in my day"™ he not only would have been unemployable outside of a circus, he probably would have been committed to a psychiatric ward. But hey it's all good. I love everybody.

 

[RDKirk]

In related news...

Baptist pastor, Christian college president apologizes for allowing male speaker with long hair​

Pastor John Wilkerson of First Baptist Church of Hammond in Indiana, who also serves as president of Hyles-Anderson College apologized to church members after he was criticized for allowing a man from a local creationist group to address the church and school while sporting hair they considered too long and quoting Scripture from the NIV translation of the Bible.

[From a prominent complaint letter:]
A long-haired hippie teaching in the pulpit is in direct contradiction to Scripture. 1 Corinthians 11:14 says, 'Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?'” wrote Domelle. “I don't know anything about this man, but I do know that to have long hair is a shame. It does not matter what he was going to teach, the fact that he blatantly disobeys God’s Word should have alerted anyone to his spiritual discernment and that he is to be disqualified to teach people.”

What is "long?" Even in Paul's time, the fashion of hair length for men varied from Jew to Greek to Roman. Inasmuch as what "nature" does with hair, nature itself appears to teach that Europeans and Asians, both male and female, should have long hair while Sub-Sahara Africans, male and female, should have short hair.

 

[rambot]

Well I was in Walmart awhile back and this employee stocking the shelves had bright neon pink hair. "Back in my day"™ he not only would have been unemployable outside of a circus, he probably would have been committed to a psychiatric ward. But hey it's all good. I love everybody.

But do you think it's reasonable to fire someone because their hair is a certain colour regardless of the time?

 

[Chesterton]

But do you think it's reasonable to fire someone because their hair is a certain colour regardless of the time?

The wording of your question is a bit tricky. It depends.

 

[Ana the Ist]

They're Gen X and Millennials. I don't know why they have that rule anyway. I'm continually amazed by that.

A hair rule? Or a dress code altogether?

 

[RDKirk]

A hair rule? Or a dress code altogether?

A hair rule specifically, but a strict dress code in particular. Heck, by in the latter 60s I attended a brand new high school with a bevy of brand new teachers in their early 20s. They were barely within conservative Oklahoma standards. The young women teachers, in particular, liked their short skirts.

 

[rambot]

The wording of your question is a bit tricky. It depends.

I don't mean the cultural context. I just mean doesn't it seem like a silly reason.

Being rude to your boss; being terrible at your job; always being late; rude to customers....these are sensible reasons to get fired.

Hair too long.... I just can't get behind that.

 

[DaisyDay]

I don't mean the cultural context. I just mean doesn't it seem like a silly reason.

Being rude to your boss; being terrible at your job; always being late; rude to customers....these are sensible reasons to get fired.

Hair too long.... I just can't get behind that.

Or too pink. Really, who cares?

 

[Chesterton]

I don't mean the cultural context. I just mean doesn't it seem like a silly reason.

Being rude to your boss; being terrible at your job; always being late; rude to customers....these are sensible reasons to get fired.

Hair too long.... I just can't get behind that.

Well now you changed the issue. Having long hair and having pink hair are different things.

 

[rambot]

Well now you changed the issue. Having long hair and having pink hair are different things.

Is it fireable?

 

[Chesterton]

Is it fireable?

Yes, in a perfect world, anything and everything is fireable. I believe in freedom.