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Kamala's VP pick regarding socilaism and the push back

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What larger society? They come from communities they grow up in all their lives. Who is this larger society? Evidently you seem to be saying you need to bring this "society" to them in schools which is absent from the society they grow and live.
And so it may be. As we live in a culturally diverse nation, it seems to me that in order to function in the wider world they should have some familiarity with the diversity of values they will encounter.
Into what? We need them to be educated in academics. A firm foundation to work and live...
If that's all they've got they might not even be able to work successfully, much less live happily.
 
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And so it may be. As we live in a culturally diverse nation, it seems to me that in order to function in the wider world they should have some familiarity with the diversity of values they will encounter.
So you are acknowledging you are resocializing children as a collective.
If that's all they've got they might not even be able to work successfully, much less live happily.
If they cannot read properly, do basic math they won't be able to work successfully. Therefore your concern for our children's success in the workforce is quite lacking altogether.
 
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It is resocialization. Parents did not knoiw what their kids were being taught until Covid. An example is Tampons in boys bathrooms. Do you think mose parents give their boys Tampons?

Yes, because all their peers are being "resocialized" together. It is why parents want school choice.


That is what Schools are doing, specific directions they did not get at home. Just focus on academics.
I feel like you have never been in a school the way you post. Most of my socialization came from being in school. The teachers did little to affect my socialization because it is the interactions with other children that has the biggest influence at school.

Tampons and other menstrual products in all bathroom ( not just boys) is not a bad thing. I think the boys who see these in the bathrooms will be fine and less squeamish about seeing them in their adult lives. It’s hardly a thing to get upset about.
 
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I feel like you have never been in a school the way you post. Most of my socialization came from being in school.
Implying I never attended school, never was socialized at school does not present well for you.
The teachers did little to affect my socialization because it is the interactions with other children that has the biggest influence at school.
Exactly, children which were collectively a part of a community.
Tampons and other menstrual products in all bathroom ( not just boys) is not a bad thing. I think the boys who see these in the bathrooms will be fine and less squeamish about seeing them in their adult lives.
What, boys do not have sisters? Women do not bear boys? Good Lord there were four girls and two boys in my family. You think the boys never seen or heard of Kotex? Tampons were not even a thing until after Kotex.
It’s hardly a thing to get upset about.
Exactly, evidently it is important for you for boys to think they need personal access to these products. It is nothing to get upset about when paople say, boys do not need these things, why pay for such silliness. As adults who educate our Children and your reasonableness it does not present well for you.
 
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Implying I never attended school, never was socialized at school does not present well for you.

Exactly, children which were collectively a part of a community.

What, boys do not have sisters? Women do not bear boys? Good Lord there were four girls and two boys in my family. You think the boys never seen or heard of Kotex? Tampons were not even a thing until after Kotex.

Exactly, evidently it is important for you for boys to think they need personal access to these products. It is nothing to get upset about when paople say, boys do not need these things, why pay for such silliness.
But trans boys might want them, and even straight girls sometimes use the boys room.
 
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But trans boys might want them, and even straight girls sometimes use the boys room.
So you want unisex bathrooms. And you speak about needing "physiology" to be taught? Physiological Boys will never need such things. Waste of money and education time....for such focus. Most parents would like our educators to focus on improving and maintaing the best possible academic success.
 
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So you want unisex bathrooms. And you speak about needing "physiology" to be taught? Physiological Boys will never need such things. Waste of money and education time....

Nothing wrong with unisex bathrooms, but even as it is there is a growing casual attitude towards using gendered bathrooms, Architects even have statistics that they can use to plan for it when designing gendered bathrooms for large venues. Is that one of the things you want to keep from your kids?
 
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So you want unisex bathrooms. And you speak about needing "physiology" to be taught? Physiological Boys will never need such things. Waste of money and education time....
Trans boys do exist. I realize this is an issue for you, but schools accommodating them is happening. Having products available is just a nice thing to do. Boys can also share them with a girl who needs it. Let’s normalize making tampons avaliable like toilet paper or paper towels and convenient to access for anyone. A simple idea that helps can be too radical for some though.
 
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Would you consider the UK a communist country? What about Denmark?
The basic foundation of communism is

Communism proposes a society in which everyone shares the benefits of labor equally, and eliminates the class system through redistribution of on income.

Communism is about redistribution of wealth​


Sounds good on the surface .... but it is the government that decides how that wealth will be distributed. They do this by various means ... taxes and various government programs.

Countries are at different stages in regard to this .... but generally speaking .... eventually one ends up with complete government control under the guise of "equality" and that is not good for the average citizen. Seems the "nudge" to this end is happening in many countries.
 
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Nothing wrong with unisex bathrooms, but even as it is there is a growing casual attitude towards using gendered bathrooms, Architects even have statistics that they can use to plan for it when designing gendered bathrooms for large venues. Is that one of the things you want to keep from your kids?
What business is that of an educator?
 
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Trans boys do exist.
So what? That has nothing to do with menstruation.,
I realize this is an issue for you,
No, it is YOU making this an issue.
but schools accommodating them is happening.
Accommodating what? Something that does not exist... Boys don't menstruate.
Having products available is just a nice thing to do.
For whom?
Boys can also share them with a girl who needs it. Let’s normalize making tampons avaliable like toilet paper or paper towels and convenient to access for anyone. A simple idea that helps can be too radical for some though.
You are acknowledging it is a divisive thing to do as an educator. It is not your job. Get back to your job.
 
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feel like you have never been in a school the way you post. Most of my socialization came from being in school. The teachers did little to affect my socialization because it is the interactions with other children that has the biggest influence at school.
Exactly kids are part of society as a whole. They don't need their teachers to indictrinate them on social issues because that's totally biased by tge teacher.

I like you wasn't socialized by my teachers because they didn't see it as their responsibility. They taught math, history, science, reading etc. They stayed away from trying to indoctrinate us on social issues.
Tampons and other menstrual products in all bathroom ( not just boys) is not a bad thing. I think the boys who see these in the bathrooms will be fine and less squeamish about seeing them in their adult lives. It’s hardly a thing to get upset about.
Please tell me why boys need tampons in their bathrooms? Boys don't use them. Boys see tampon commercials on television. They learn about menstruation in biology classes, most have mothers, sometimes two, they have girlfriends or girl friends. Etc etc. They have no need to have them in their bathrooms. The reason they are there is because it's further social engineering Boys to believe that Boys can menstruate. It's gender indoctrination.
 
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Trans boys do exist.
Yeah they are called girls. Boys don't menstruate. If you are a girl you should use the girls gathroom not the boys. The girls are standing at the urinals. They use the stalls. You what bathroom has stalls and no urinals? Girls bathrooms.

If you want to use a unisex bathroom fine, But stay out of the boys room because you aren't a boy.
 
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So what? That has nothing to do with menstruation.,

No, it is YOU making this an issue.

Accommodating what? Something that does not exist... Boys don't menstruate.

For whom?

You are acknowledging it is a divisive thing to do as an educator. It is not your job. Get back to your job.
Trans boys menstruate.
 
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What business is that of an educator?
It's how the world works. You want him to be surprised when he goes to a concert and finds the men's has women in it and he doesn't know why or why nobody else seems to care?
 
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Then we agree that only non religious inculcation should be taking place in schools? Would you also agree that children need to be taught how to thrive in the world they are entering?
"How to thrive" encompasses a lot. What's wrong with reading, writing, and 'rithmetic?
 
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It's how the world works. You want him to be surprised when he goes to a concert and finds the men's has women in it and he doesn't know why or why nobody else seems to care?
And yet, there are no tampons in the men's room at the concert hall.
 
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So you are acknowledging you are resocializing children as a collective.
That's an odd thing to call it. A person who has values and recognizes that other people have different values and learns how to get along with them in public is part of a "collective???"
If they cannot read properly, do basic math they won't be able to work successfully. Therefore your concern for our children's success in the workforce is quite lacking altogether.
Of course it is. I'm a workforce development trainer. I teach adults subjects they were alleged to have learned in school but didn't--mostly basic math. I make more money than any teacher with smaller class sizes and better working conditions. So don't go messing around with public school math education, it'll spoil my gig. It's better to let teachers spend all their time teaching kids how to be gay or grooming them for castration. (though they don't seem to be doing a very good job at that, either.) I can teach them math afterwards.
 
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