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What's a "legal immigrant"? For most of my ancestors all there is to record their entry is an entry on a passenger manifest at their port of arrival. An entry that was recorded for everyone who entered, whether they were staying or not. (including the crew)
Obviously, a legal immigrant is one who followed the laws that were in place at the time said person immigrated into a nation.
 
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Obviously, a legal immigrant is one who followed the laws that were in place at the time said person immigrated into a nation.
and prior to the 1920’s, those laws let just about anyone in.
 
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So what made the “melting pot” was open borders, not restricting “America” to “Americans.”
The melting pot was when people from different cultures assimilated, or "melted", themselves into the American culture. It's too bad that the progressive far left of the Democratic Party leadership appears to want Americans like you and I to have no problem at all with the human trafficking from the borders as well as the hundreds of thousands of missing immigrant kids.
 
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The melting pot was when people from different cultures assimilated, or "melted", themselves into the American culture.

Right, which requires getting here in the first place.

It's too bad that the progressive far left of the Democratic Party leadership appears to want Americans like you and I to have no problem at all with the human trafficking from the borders as well as the hundreds of thousands of missing immigrant kids.
I’ll believe the right gives two hoots about sexual abuse when they make a large-scale purge of it from their churches.
 
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MSNBC broadcast images of a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden in its coverage of Donald Trump’s campaign rally at the same venue.​
The footage showed the crowd making Nazi salutes while a parade of flag-waving officials goose-stepped through the historic New York City venue.​
“In 1939, more than 20,000 supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the Garden for a so-called pro-America rally,” host Jonathan Capehart narrated.​

There actually people defending them doing it -

Mr Musk also reposted images of an Israeli flag being hung from an upper balcony, as well as black, Asian and Jewish speakers at the event.



MSNBC faces backlash for using Nazi rally clips during Madison Square Garden coverage

The backlash to MSNBC’s coverage on Sunday evening was immediate as Republicans pointed out a diverse range of attendees, including a Holocaust survivor.​
“Hey @MSNBC this was what you streamed on National TV, and this is Jerry Wartski, a Holocaust survivor attending today’s rally. True colors. You owe this man an apology. Not to mention the rest of the Jews at the Madison Rally. Whose Anti-Semetic?” one user questioned.​
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The further they go with this, the more it's going to backfire on them.
 
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Obviously, a legal immigrant is one who followed the laws that were in place at the time said person immigrated into a nation.
That's not much of a bar. As I said, they just gave their names to the US Customs officer who recorded their name, age, and place of origin (and how much stuff they brought). No one cared if they stayed or not. Everybody was "legal".
 
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Ah. So you agree with the comparison.

I mean, in 1930, they wanted to kill Jews, and in this rally, Jews were welcome and shown support. And you think those things are comparable?

Alrighty then.
The media know all the time they engage in hyperbole on steroids to achieve a political end.
 
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I’m more concerned about the rally itself and the divisive and racist rhetoric that was cheered on by the crowd there this past weekend rather than MSNBC’s reporting and comparison to a Nazi rally from the 1930s.
Silly goose! The crime is to call out Nazi like behaviour. Not to ENGAGE in Nazi like behaviour.
 
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They do this:


MSNBC broadcast images of a Nazi rally at Madison Square Garden in its coverage of Donald Trump’s campaign rally at the same venue.​
The footage showed the crowd making Nazi salutes while a parade of flag-waving officials goose-stepped through the historic New York City venue.​
“In 1939, more than 20,000 supporters of a different fascist leader, Adolf Hitler, packed the Garden for a so-called pro-America rally,” host Jonathan Capehart narrated.​

There actually people defending them doing it -

Mr Musk also reposted images of an Israeli flag being hung from an upper balcony, as well as black, Asian and Jewish speakers at the event.



MSNBC faces backlash for using Nazi rally clips during Madison Square Garden coverage

The backlash to MSNBC’s coverage on Sunday evening was immediate as Republicans pointed out a diverse range of attendees, including a Holocaust survivor.​
“Hey @MSNBC this was what you streamed on National TV, and this is Jerry Wartski, a Holocaust survivor attending today’s rally. True colors. You owe this man an apology. Not to mention the rest of the Jews at the Madison Rally. Whose Anti-Semetic?” one user questioned.​
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One can be a fascist without being an antisemite.

Also, you can be a fascist without being a Nazi.
 
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I remember when people didn't allow themselves to get upset at obvious attempts to try to be funny.
Oh come on. If anyone here said the things that were said there they would be (quite rightly) suspended by the mods.
 
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The media know all the time they engage in hyperbole on steroids to achieve a political end.
My irony meter has just exploded.
 
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Were they "othering" all immigrants, or just undocumented/illegal immigrants?
The leader of the party seems to lump all of them together, e.g. Trump Tells Congresswomen to ‘Go Back’ to the Countries They Came From (Published 2019)

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Sunday that a group of four minority congresswomen feuding with Speaker Nancy Pelosi should “go back” to the countries they came from rather than “loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States” how to run the government.
Wrapped inside that insult, which was widely established as a racist trope, was a factually inaccurate claim: Only one of the lawmakers was born outside the country.
 
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One can be a fascist without being an antisemite.

Also, you can be a fascist without being a Nazi.
Yes, but since they're calling Trump Hitler and his supporters Nazis, other versions of fascist don't apply.
 
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Yes, but since they're calling Trump Hitler and his supporters Nazis, other versions of fascist don't apply.
Personally, I think Trump is closer to Mussolini.
 
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